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Supplements/ Nutrients (B12, Vit. D, Potassium, Protein . . . ) for RAers/ Autoimmuners & Plant-Based Dieters (Vegans, Vegetarians, . . . )

Supplements/ Nutrients (B12, Vit. D, Potassium, Protein . . . ) for RAers/ Autoimmuners & Plant-Based Dieters (Vegans, Vegetarians, . . . )

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Supplements/ Nutrients (B12, Vitamin D, Potassium, Protein . . . ) for RAers/ Autoimmuners Considering Plant-Based Diets (Vegan, Vegetarian, . . . )

May be of interest to RAers/ Autoimmuners considering (or concerned about) plant-based diets: Vegan, Vegetarian, etc.

[Original Reply to query: "What supplements do you require on a vegan diet?" healthunlocked.com/cure-art... ]

Here's a reputable list from a reliable, experienced source (in my opinion 👍 ): paddisonprogram.com/communi...

Well worth reviewing & researching. 👍 🤓 🕵️‍♀️ 🔎

Beautifully concise & 'to the point'. 👈 😌

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Merely supplemental info from personal experience (just 1 individual's 1st-hand experience):

Yes, bottom-line minimum: B12. 👍

(Especially if this is a long-term/ 'permanent', lifestyle change — not a 'whim' or a 'dabble'. 😳 😁 )

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Tablet, sublingual, or injection — whatever your body/ condition(s) will best absorb:

• Some folks fair well simply on tablets 💊 (and/or B12 fortified foods)

• Some need (or prefer) sublinguals 👅 ('under the tongue')

• Some have conditions (problematic digestive systems incapable of absorbing(?)/ 'processing' B12) & therefore must have injections 💉 .

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Some individuals — not all individuals (whether 'Vegan' or not) — depending on conditions, severity of nutrient deficiency, anaemia (from chronic illness), etc. require various other supplements (either prescribed or 'over the counter') such as:

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Vitamin D (hormone)

Potassium [K – kalium/ potash (not 'Vitamin' K)]

Magnesium

DHA, etc..

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We each need to assess, 'figure out', tailor any supplements (& dosages) towards what our individual bodies/ conditions require.

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[Continued research/ study on our part 🕵️‍♀️ 👩‍🏫 👩‍💻 to not only learn & grasp these topics but to also understand the subtleties/ nuances of our own bodily reactions. No 'easy answers', no shortcuts 💇 — just the hard work of learning & understanding. 👩‍🏫 🙇‍♀️ 🙋 ]

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While in 'the depths of disease', we may require a temporary boost of nutrients ('supplements/ pills') to get us 'over the hump' — in addition to our nutrient-dense diets (foods, smoothies, green juices, water, etc.) that we routinely ingest. 🤔

[This is merely my laymen's opinion 🗣 💬 , borne out from hard learned 🙃🔨 , 1st-hand personal experience and from what I've learned from others in (severe) nutrient deficit.]

Then, over time, as we improve, we may be able to 'wean off' supplements (as we steadily, consistently feel better & better) & are able to demonstrate improvement via mobility, increased energy/ stamina/ mental acuity, reduced pain, overall feelings of wellness, improved blood tests, etc..

[Oh . . . for clarification, we may be able to 'wean off' various 'temporary' supplements (provided they're no longer required/ justified ⚖️ , but we remain on B12. 👍 ]

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Kindly bear in mind:

• We work hand-in-hand 🤝 with our physicians 👩‍⚕️ 👨‍⚕️ (monitoring, assessing, following up).

• It's a process that takes time ⏳ . (Think months/ years 🗓 — not mere days or weeks 📆 .)

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Depending on our condition(s), severity, etc.. this (getting better and weaning off supplements) is a long-haul journey 🛣 🛤 .

(No 'overnight miracles' 🌃 ✨. 😄 )

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These posts note nutrient-dense foods that help boosts our nutrition & thereby overall health:

🥗 Quinoa, Buckwheat, Sweet Potatoes, Leafy Greens, . . . 'Baseline Phase' of PP Diet Fulfills Nutritional Requirements (Diverse & Complete): healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

🥗 Dr. Brooke Goldner's Free 3-Day Webinar, '6 Steps to Reversing Autoimmune Disease with Supermarket Foods': August 3/Thu, 7/Mon, 10/Thu 2017: healthunlocked.com/cure-art...

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General 'rules of thumb':

👍 We 1st try to get (all) our nutrients from WHOLE foods see the works of: Dean Ornish, Neal Barnard, T. Colin Campbell, Caldwell Esselstyn, John McDougall, Michael Klaper, Michael Greger: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

[WHOLE food is the best/ ideal 😇 way for our bodies to ingest (absorb/ 'process' nutrients) — preferable to supplements/ pills (which are a '2nd best' or 'last resort' 😳 sorta speak).]

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👍 If we can't (for whatever reason(s)) ingest/ absorb/ 'process' nutrients from our food, then we resort to supplements — in consult with our physicians 👩‍⚕️ 👨‍⚕️ (of course). And, to ensure any supplements/ nutrients we're ingesting don't conflict with any medications (prescribed or 'over the counter') that we're currently taking.

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We learn over time. 🤓 ⏳

Experiential learning ( 🙃🔨 ) through research 📚 & 'trial & error' ✔️✖️ .

Kindly, be patient 🙏 , kind 😌 , & loving 💕 toward yourself as you learn along the way. ☺️

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Very best wishes to you. 🙏 🍀 🌺 🌞

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Kind regards, ☺️

Kai

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Oh, oh . . . almost forgot . . .

. . . info on (complete) proteins:

👍 The Protein-Combining Myth: nutritionfacts.org/video/th...

👍 Do Vegetarians Get Enough Protein?: nutritionfacts.org/video/do...

👍 The Great Protein Fiasco: nutritionfacts.org/video/th...

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Dr. Klaper sums up the essence of it all beautifully:

👍 Vegan Protein Deficiency and Vegan Pitfalls - Dr. Michael Klaper:

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Additional reference:

From Dr. Michael Greger*:

'Optimum Nutrition Recommendations' (from 2011 & updated 2/4/16) may also be of interest: nutritionfacts.org/2011/09/...

It elaborates on Vitamin B12, Omega-3 Fatty Acids, Vitamin D, Calcium, Iodine, Iron, Selenium. (Also the Comments section (below article) may also be of interest. 🤔 )

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* Dr. Michael Greger ('Sense & Sensibility') Shares "How Not to Die": healthunlocked.com/cure-art...

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Additional Potassium [K] resources from 'Oh what a day, wish it were over!': healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

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If interested in obtaining Potassium [K] from FOOD some of these resources may help :

"Potassium Rich Foods" infographic: comfortspringstation.tumblr...

(Almonds, Apricots 🍑 , Avocados 🥑 , Beets, Bok Choy, Brazil Nuts, Brussels Sprouts, Broccoli 🌳 , Cantaloupe 🍈 , Coconut, Figs, Kiwi 🥝 , Spinach 🍃 , Swiss Chard, Tomatoes 🍅 )

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Potassium [K – kalium/ potash (not 'Vitamin' K)] foods list from USDA (United States Dept. Or Agriculture) Food Composition Databases: ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/nutrie... [Lists potassium rich foods from high (page 1) to low (page 325)] [From "Which foods have the most potassium?" nutritionfacts.org/question... ]

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"Potassium Power": paddisonprogram.com/potassi...

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"Potassium" search result at Dr. Michael Greger's NutritionFacts.org: nutritionfacts.org/?fwp_sea...

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"Potassium and Autoimmune Disease":

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Vitamin D (Hormone) references/ conversations for consideration:

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'Reconstruction' Vitamin D (Hormone) portion of year-old post (Hip pain: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ) that you may find interesting. 🤔 [Kai--) portion of conversation went 'poof' when my account was 'accidentally deleted' by HU 😳 , thus re-cobbled together 'Vit. D (Hormone)' portion here for anyone interested in the topic.]

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Coastwalker:

My hip pain and stiffness went almost straight away once I started taking a high (safe) dose of 5000iu vitamin D3. (Not saying you have the same hip pain krysia,)

Vitamin D3 is an anti inflammatory, vitamindcouncil.com here in UK it is said that 85% of us are either low or deficient in our vitamin D blood levels.

Vitamin D is the sunshine vitamin, many don't get enough sunshine on their body's or even absorb enough of it. (you might already know this though

Only if you have high calcium levels you must not take vitamin D3.

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Kai--:

Vit D3 (vitamin/ hormone) is truly fascinating, Coastwalker! 👍 Here's a bit more if you'd like to explore further:

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☀️ healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

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krysia, if any of these bits ring true to you, you're welcome to them: healthunlocked.com/ra-warri...

Wishing you a productive rheumatologist visit next month. 👍

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Coastwalker:

Thank you for your links Kai, I will take a look at your link, I too preach vitamin D to others as it has helped so many in my Family and friends too, also I know it helps COPD, Asthma and even Emphysema Patients.

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Kai--:

For clarification, Coastwalker: Viewing the various 'linked-to' Vit D/ hormone references can be confusing/ contradictory. (Personally, I'm still in quite a muddle about the whole thing.)

[My initial <15 ng/mL Vit. D test reading required a 50,000 IU (1 pill/ week) for several months prescription which I attribute to making me feel considerably better (in addition to my dietary/ lifestyle changes being phased in at the same time). 🤗 ] Yet, after reading the 'Fearless Parent' article (as well as viewing the Dr. McDougall video), other concerns are raised about continuing 'maintenance doses' of orally ingesting Vit. D supplements (tablets/ soft gels . . .) -- thus the muddle. Unfortunately, without a solid 'science background', (us) 'untrained' folks are swimming in confusion about routine 'maintenance' doses of Vit. D/ hormone to take orally or whether to by-pass entirely the oral supplement route in favour of simple exposure to outdoor sunshine on bare skin. 🌞 Per usual, confusion reigns as to how to proceed! 😉 Guess we each just have to 'figure out' what works best for ourselves. 🤔

[Merely my subjective self-observation: on the 1 hand, I strongly suspect the initial ''mega-dose" of Vit. D contributed to my feeling significantly better. Yet, I'm concerned about ingesting routine maintenance doses (& in 'what' dosage) considering the potential downsides. Attempting to 'compromise' in favour of increased sun exposure on skin & reduced oral supplementation. Sigh . . . it's ever-changing recommendations via 'experts' contributing to our confusion about 'what to do'/ 'how to proceed'. Once again, it seems to fall back to: 'we are our own Guinea pigs'! 🐹 🐹 😉 "What works for 1 person, may not work for another." [Oy vey! How many times have we said & read that?! 😂 ]

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Coastwalker:

vitamindcouncil.com guidelines I follow, for safe, modern up to date doses, (not often agreed by Doctors though.) Vitamin D Council are more knowledgeable on vitamin D and the many illnesses it helps.

I take mostly take 5000iu daily, as do my family and friends. Vitamin D3 is known to have a short life span, I cannot remember of how many hours it lasts for, it wears off later in the day for me as all my pains come back a bit later in the day, if I forget to take it I soon know so often I take another 5000iu dose to relieve the pain later in the day, unless I go out in the warm sun.

I believe they say you get 15-20,000iu vitamin D for 20 mins out in the hot midday sun here in UK, though it is not that hot here in UK.

I recall that taking 5000iu daily is better than taking a big dose of 35,000 once a week, (the same dose) as the 35,000iu would not last all week, not that anyone would take 35,000iu in the first place without top medical advice or knowledge about it.

Bigger doses are often used in patients like yourself who are extremely low in vitamin D to start with. Like you say we are all different, but I go by what my body tells me

Many thanks Kai for those vitamin D video links, I enjoyed watching it, very sharp to the point, I will pass the link on to others, we all need to watch videos like this.

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Kai--:

Excellent. Thank you so much for sharing, Coastwalker (Much appreciated. 🙏 ) The Vitamin D Council website ( vitamindcouncil.org ) is indeed very interesting! 👍

Isn't it wild how you can feel it wearing off later in the day via signaling by increased joint pain?! 😳 Amazing! Makes me laugh how our bodies begin to creak & scream at us if we're not attending to its wishes! (Like the persistence of a hungry pet letting us know it's feeding time! 🐶 🐱 ) Truly amazing.

Interesting, 15-20K IU vitamin D for 20-min sun exposure! 👍 (Guess that's yet another good reason to get outside a few times a day! Perhaps spending more time in the garden when at home. 🌞 🌺)

Yes, I too have gone up to 5K IU daily maintenance dose (after inching upward from 1K, 2K, 3K, . . .). Recently, I've been trying to trend downward (5K, 4K, 3K, . . . ) with supplements & trend upward with sun exposure -- in light of the aforementioned article & video. So far, so good. 👍

This is what I'm guessing might be going on (inside my body): as the gut continues to heal (inflammation dissipates), the gut is better able to absorb nutrients, etc., and hormone function is beginning to shift back to 'somewhat normal'? (Of course, I've no way to prove any of this -- it's merely speculation.) The only evidence I have is -- continuing to feel well/ better. (Weird, I know.) Anyhoo, I've been trying to rely more on sunlight as a normal way to stimulate that Vit. D/ hormone production naturally & periodically take the Vit. D supplement if I think I didn't get enough sun exposure in a day. [I know, not very 'scientific' -- a bit too loosey-goosey . . . 😉 ]

I fully agree -- as it makes sense to me (a layman) -- when autoimmune disease has ravaged our Vit D/ hormone supply & we need to start functioning & feeling well, supplementation 'jump starts' our system. It's a lifesaver! 👍 🤗 It can certainly help us feel remarkably better: increasing energy, reducing fatigue & joint pain . . . )

To my mind, the question becomes: once we start improving (disease activity seemingly dissipates) & we are on a steady/ even keel for some time, if/ when should we consider lowering our Vit. D maintenance doses (via supplements) & start shifting to sun exposure as our primary way of stimulating Vit. D/ hormone (provided we live in areas/ seasons where we can get out in the sun)?

All still very up in the air (in my mind) given the 'Fearless Parent' article & McDougall video. (For me, I don't like relying on supplements -- any supplements -- but realize I have to take some, in order to sustain wellness. [Same parallel for folks on pharmaceutical meds; we need to do what 'we need to do' in order to function -- whether we're happy about it or not.] Again, to my mind (just 'for me'), my goal is to wean off supplements & get as many nutrients as I can via 'normal/ natural' means -- foods, sunshine, . . . I realize, given a multitude of factors, this may not be achievable; yet, one can dream! 😉 🤗

Wishing you wellness, Coastwalker. And, thank you kindly for sharing the 'Vitamin D Council' link & your much-valued insights. Much appreciated. 🙏

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Coastwalker:

You are welcome Kai, nice to hear someone getting so excited about vitamin D too.

Remembering our soil is getting overused, depleted of nutrition's and not forgetting some of the dangerous chemicals now added to our soils. I recently read that you would need to eat 40 apples to get the same nutrition value as you would have done with just one apple many years ago. So keep on supplementing I would say.

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Deeply troubling learning of nutrient deficiency rooted in soil depletion, Coastwalker. 😳 Very disturbing. 😱 Now that more folks are becoming conscious of it, hopefully they'll be increased movement toward remedying it. 🙏

(Hopefully future generations will learn from our 'follies' & be aware of the trickle-down affect contributing to unnecessary suffering. 👍)

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My goodness, 1 yesteryear 🍎 =

40 today 🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎

. . . . . . . . .🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎

. . . . . . . . .🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎

. . . . . . . . .🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎🍎 !! 🙃

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Understandable how one of these 💊 is ingestible in 1 sitting rather than 40 apples (in 1 sitting)! 😁

We are starved for nutrients yet are as big as 🐮 !!

[The ironies, paradoxes, & contradictions never end. 😉]

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Coastwalker:

It all sadly seems so Kai.

Thank goodness for the internet to get the word out that we need to change for the better and for our future generations.

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More (new) info on Vit. D/ hormone supplementation from Dr. Michael Greger (of NutritionFacts.org) that might be of interest 🤓 :

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💊 🌞 (1) Do Vitamin D Supplements Help with Diabetes, Weight Loss, and Blood Pressure? nutritionfacts.org/video/do...

💊 🌞 (2) Will You Live Longer if You Take Vitamin D Supplements? nutritionfacts.org/video/wi...

💊 🌞 (3) How Much Vitamin D Should You Take? nutritionfacts.org/video/ho...

💊 🌞 (4) The Optimal Dose of Vitamin DBased on Natural Levels nutritionfacts.org/video/th...

💊 🌞 (5) The Best Way to Get Vitamin D: Sun, Supplements, or Salons? nutritionfacts.org/video/th...

💊 🌞 (6) The Risks and Benefits of Sensible Sun Exposure nutritionfacts.org/video/th...

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[Just when we think we've a bit of a handle on Vit. D/ hormone, new info has us questioning things further. 😳 Oy vey! 😉 (An endless voyage of discovery . . . 🙃)]

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Additional info at post: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

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"Vitamin D" search results at NutritionFacts.Org for even more info 😱 : nutritionfacts.org/?fwp_sea...

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Coastwalker:

Thank you Kai--

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Additional cobbled together Vitamin D (Hormone) references at former year(s)-old post ('Have you viewed 'ThatVitamin Movie' or 'Forks Over Knives'?': healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ) that had also 'gone poof'. 😳

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Serious re-think of Vitamin D supplementation (in contrast to "ThatVitamin Movie") at Thyroid UK forum:

🔗 healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

🔗 healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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🔆 Supplementing For Low Vitamin D? Not So Fast ...: fearlessparent.org/suppleme...

🔆 John McDougall: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

🔆 Vitamin D Supplements are Harmful, Industry and the US Dietary Guidelines:

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References from video, if you don't have a full hour to devout to viewing at 1 sitting or may wish to review the information in writing:

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Dr. McDougall’s Color Picture Book: Food Poisoning: drmcdougall.com/health/educ...

📕 Printable PDF file: drmcdougall.com/wp/wp-conte...

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Vitamin D Supplements Are Harmful — Sunshine and Food Determine Health (March 2015): drmcdougall.com/misc/2015nl...

📕 Printable PDF file: drmcdougall.com/misc/2015nl...

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Lies and Damned Lies: Damned Lies Harm the Public and Planet Earth (June 2015): drmcdougall.com/misc/2015nl...

📕 Printable PDF file: drmcdougall.com/misc/2015nl...

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Broccoli and Kale Taste Bitter (August 2015): drmcdougall.com/2015/08/31/...

📕 Printable PDF file: drmcdougall.com/misc/2015nl...

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An additional 'considered response' to Vit.D query that may be of interest; again, also a year ago, etc.: 'Vitamin D tablets and RA': healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

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'Supplemental' Vitamin D info 😉: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

Replies # 2, 3, & 4 may interest you, ----. 👍 🌞

Good luck 🍀. A lot to think about. 🙏

[Rather than regurgitate my (positive) experience with Vit. D supplementation here, my experience is posted elsewhere & linked to above. ☺️ ]

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Merely additional thoughts:

To date, I've had (remarkable) good fortune 🙏 with Vit. D (as well as several other nutrients) in supplement form (capsules/ tablets). And, I don't regret having taken my physician-prescribed doses (& follow-up maintenance doses). 🤗

But, in light of new information (Dr. McDougall video, 'Fearless Parent' article, & discussions in forum posts), (& significantly improved health) I'm currently working toward reducing capsule/ tablet 'supplementation' & migrating toward more sun exposure. 🌞 👍 [That's merely my unique experience, & I'm not implying you (or anyone), ---- should follow suit. We all need to 'figure out' 🤔 what works best for our unique situations -- along with our physicians input. 🗣 ]

What I'd once understood as a seemingly simple/ direct 'solution' is a quite a bit more subtle/ nuanced/ complex than I'd initially grasped. 😱

It appears so many of the things we're 'taught' (& eventually come to 'believe' as unshakeable 'fact/ truth') -- are not always as we initially understand them to be . . . 🙃

Yes, 'confusion & ambiguity reign!' ⁉️ 🙃

If interested in exploring the Vitamin D topic further, ----, kindly consider taking the time to review the linked to materials & of course -- as usual -- work hand-in-hand with your physician(s). 👐 👍

Be well, dear lady. 🙏

Kind regards, ☺️

Kai

[Don't know if you're already familiar with the aforementioned references, ----, but they may interest you too. (I know, I know -- it never gets an simpler. 😉 There's always 'pesky wrinkles'! 😉 )]

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Additional recent Vitamin D (Hormone) info via ITYFIALMCTT at UK NRAS forum:

👉 Vitamin D Guidelines UK: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

. . . • NICE treatment and prevention summary for Vit D deficiency in adults: cks.nice.org.uk/vitamin-d-d...

. . . • NRAS photosensitivity: nras.org.uk/photosensitivity

. . . • Catherine Collins (registered dietician): healthunlocked.com/user/cat... (from post: Are vitamin D pills 'pointless' : healthunlocked.com/healthye... )

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👉 Could I have RA?: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

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(Many thanks to ITYFIALMCTT. 🙏 🍀 🌺 🌞 )

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Rhonda Patrick: The "Vitamin D Sweet Spot" and Its Relationship To Aging

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[Originally posted at 'D3 results’: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ]

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Merely ‘supplemental’ info 💊 on Vitamin D/ hormone if interested, Neverending63: healthunlocked.com/cure-art...

Maybe, by consulting with a medic 👩‍⚕️ , you’ll be able to ‘talk through’ what makes best sense for you & your particular conditions/ circumstances? 🤔

For example, some of us have a maintenance dose between 1,000 IU — 2,000 IU daily; some go higher, some go lower. It all ‘depends’ on multiple factors. 🤓

(Working with your medics 👨‍⚕️ 👩‍⚕️ can help you arrive at a dose safe/ appropriate for your unique situation.)

Recently saw this Rhonda Patrick video & maybe you’ll like her persepective on finding The "Vitamin D Sweet Spot":

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Wishing you luck finding your "sweet spot", Neverending63. 😌 🙏 🍀 🌺 🌞

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Turmeric/ Curcumin resources/ references:

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[Also posted at Moomin8’s ‘Curcumin anyone?’: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ]

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Think you might find this eye-opening 👁, Moomin8? 🤔 nutritionfacts.org/?fwp_sea... (Curcumin/ Turmeric videos 📹 from Dr. Michael Greger’s 👨‍⚕️ ‘NutritionFacts.org’ website).

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If that whets your curiosity 🤔 (& appetite 😋 ) & you’d like to explore 🕵️‍♀️🔎 further, here’s additional resources (I’ve found very useful/ informative):

• John & Ocean Robbins: foodrevolution.org/?s=Curcu...

• T. Colin Campbell: nutritionstudies.org/search...

• Dr. John McDougall: google.com/search?as_q=Turm...

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Additional forum discussions on "Curcumin/ Turmeric":

• NRAS: healthunlocked.com/search/c... , healthunlocked.com/search/t...

• Cure Arthritis Community: healthunlocked.com/search/c... , healthunlocked.com/search/t...

• HU: healthunlocked.com/search/c... , healthunlocked.com/search/t...

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Wishing you the very best on your Curcumin/ Turmeric adventures, Moomin8. 😌 🙏 🍀 🌺 🌞

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If you assess Curcumin/ Turmeric is something you wish to try -- please work closely with your physician(s)/ rheumatologist 👩‍⚕️👨‍⚕️ to ensure any supplements 💊 , spices ☄️, herbs 🌱, etc. that you plan on ingesting do not conflict with any meds you're may be currently taking or your current condition(s). You may already be well aware of this. 👍 🙏 (Merely noting 📝 just as a safe ⚠️, gentle reminder. 😌 ) Think it's safest if we continue working hand-in-hand 🤝 with our medics as a 'check & balance' ⚖ -- to ensure we don't 'go off the rails' 🛤 . 😳 🙃 (Merely my layman's opinion 🗣💬.)

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More on Curcumin & Turmeric from: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

[In context of Turmeric root/ powder instead of Curcumin pills 💊.

‘Whole’ foods thinking & ‘Reductionist’ thinking.]

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Turmeric or Curcumin: Plants vs. Pills: nutritionfacts.org/video/tu...

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Reductionism: nutritionfacts.org/topics/r...

Reductionism & the Deficiency Mentality: nutritionfacts.org/video/re...

Reductionist Paradigm: The Cause of Nutrition Confusion: nutritionstudies.org/reduct...

Why are we so confused about nutrition?: wholefoodplantbasedrd.com/2...

Three Wrenches…an Excerpt from Whole…: plantbaseddietitian.com/thr...

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For fun illustration, consider scrolling down to "The Blind Men and the Elephant" videos: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

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Instead of Calcium supplementation for bone health (& its accompanying issues), kindly consider (with your medics approval of course) a Weighted Vest for bone health ( google.com/search?as_q=Weig... )

[Of course, per usual, check with your medics 👩‍⚕️👨‍⚕️ to ensure it would be safe for you to wear — especially if you’ve any back/ spine/ neck, shoulder, knee issues, etc..]

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Visual samples of various ‘styles’ (& weight amounts) for comfort that suits you: google.com/search?as_q=weig...

Merely personal ‘style’ preference (unisex crisscross style) visual samples ( amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_no... , amazon.com/Empower-Weighted... )

It fits comfortably on top of (or under) layer of loose fitting 👚 👕 clothing. Reduces ‘overheating’ as it allows ‘air circulation/ ventilation’ ♻️ — especially on warmer ☀️ 🔥 days where a more ‘full coverage’ vest can build up heat/ perspiration with less air circulation.

[Of course, try it on (if possible) to ensure the weight & fit (adjustability) are comfortable for you. 👍👍 )

If you can find one with removable weights (that slide in & out ‘little pockets’) to adjust overall vest weight that’s a nicety. 🤗

[It allows the flexibility of increasing weight as we build strength & ‘feel up to’ adding additional weight. And, likewise, it allows the the flexibility of decreasing weight when we’d like to ‘lighten the load’. 👍👍 ]

If feeling up to it, wear around house 🏠 while doing indoor chores 🍽 🗑 🛠 . And, of course, can wear outside 🏡 when walking dog 🐕 , or just ‘going for a walk’ 🚶‍♀️, or gardening 🌷 🌻 🌹 & yard work 🍁 🍂 . . .

Can also wear under loose-fitting clothing when ‘running errands’ 🛒 🛍 . (Depending what you’re wearing, no one can tell you’ve a weight vest on under your top layer of clothing! ☺️ )

Just be aware of the length of time ⌚️ you’ve got the vest on to avoid ‘overdoing’ it. 😳 🙃

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Alternatives to Calcium for Osteoporosis from:

👨‍⚕️ Dr. Michael Greger: nutritionfacts.org/?fwp_sea...

👨‍⚕️ Dr. John McDougall: google.com/search?as_q=Oste...

👨‍⚕️ Dr. Michael Klaper/ TrueNorth: doctorklaper.com/?s=Osteopo... , healthpromoting.com/search/...

👨‍🔬 Dr. T. Colin Campbell: nutritionstudies.org/search...

👥 HU (HealthUnlocked): healthunlocked.com/search/o...

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Dr. Pam Popper on How to Become an Informed Patient

Links to full video & audio follow below.

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[Originally posted: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ]

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Msant1net, kindly consider viewing and/ or listening to the full interview:

Dr. Pam Popper on How to Become an Informed Patient:

• Video (full, uninterrupted 37 minutes): facebook.com/leangreenDAD/v... (click on video (thumbnail image) under caption "Dr. Pam Popper shares how to become an informed patient . . . "

• Audio (45 minutes): Dr. Pam Popper Can Help You Help Yourself! leangreendad.com/2018/03/05...

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Please, please take as good a care of yourself as you possibly can, Msant1net, & consider sharing & discussing Dr. Popper’s thoughts with trusted loved ones. 😌 🙏

Kindly take comfort in knowing there’s abundant realistic hope to improve. 😌

You’re absolutely not alone, & many many of us can & do improve. 👍👍

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Kindly, please 🙏 understand, ”your genes are NOT your fate" ( ted.com/talks/dean_ornish_s... ).

"Genes load the gun, lifestyle/ environment pull the trigger" ( healthunlocked.com/cure-art... ).

Genes/ DNA are not destiny.

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Mums, Monica Aggarwal & Maya ( healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ) & Jenn ( healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ) are doing well & able to resume caring for their beloveds. 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦

In meantime, allow yourself gentle, loving 💗 time to improve/ heal with the care & support of family & friends around you. 👩 🧑 👱‍♂️ 👵 🧓 👴

Please take gentle care, Msant1net. Best wishes to you & your beloveds. 😌 🙏 🍀 🌺 🌞

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Dr. Pam Popper resources:

• YouTube (Pamela Popper): m.youtube.com/user/drpamsne...

• Facebook (Wellness Forum Health): facebook.com/Wellness-Forum...

• Website (Wellness Forum Health): wellnessforumhealth.com/

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