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Have you been on the "Paddison Program Forum"?

If so, would you mind sharing your thoughts/ experience? 🤔 💭

I ask because I'm exploring 🕵 joining & would appreciate your considered opinion. 🗣💬

Thank you kindly in advance for any thoughts you're comfortable sharing. 🙏

[If you prefer, you're welcome to PM (Private Message: support.healthunlocked.com/... ) me if you're more comfortable. ☺️ 👍 ]

Thank you kindly for your thoughtful consideration. 🙏

Much appreciated. 👍

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Sorry Kai - I have not - It is pretty much the opposite of what I do.. Have a wonderful Easter!

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No worries, CaerylUSA. 🙏 👍

We all 'cross pollinate' 🌺 🐝 . . 🌸 🐞 . . learning from each other. 🤓 📚

[Fascinating to no end, how we each can follow 'variations on a theme 🎵 ' & achieve similar results. 🤗 Perhaps it has to do with our unique bodily 'biochemistry' ⚗ & all that 'sciency stuff' 🔬 💉 🔭 . 🤔 ]

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Happy Easter to you as well, CaerylUSA. 🐣 🐥 🐤 🐰 🐇

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For interested PP-ers, same post query at NRAS forum with some info: Anyone on the "Paddison Program Forum"?: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

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Interesting response from NRAS about a Paddison Program (PP) query at post "ra sufferer" ( healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ):

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"I'm afraid there has been a great deal of talk about this programme on this forum but there is absolutely no proven evidence to back up the claims of this programme. I also checked with our equivalent patient organisation in Australia (where this chap resides) and they like us believe that the programme is primarily a money making scheme with no evidence base at all. I would always suggest caution when following anything promoted via the internet that has no scientific evidence. healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ''

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Guessing this view/ stance applies to their perception about the PP forum as well?? 🤔

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(Dunno . . . 🤷‍♀️ . . 🤷‍♂️ )

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A light-hearted, good-natured, humorous response to this 'perception' shared with PP 'implementer/ practitioner', who's also doing well via PP:

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😳 😯 🤔

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Ah . . . . thus ###'s allowing the 'persecution & pillorying' of anyone speaking about PP. ( healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... )

😂 😂 😂

Oh my . . .

So, I guess that means we've been duped?! 😳

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I mean, if ### says it's "a money making scheme with no evidence base at all" then it must be true. 🤔

I mean, ### must know . . . 🤔

### must be plugged into the latest, best, most accurate, truthful information. 🤔

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Perhaps we've merely been imagining our turnabouts? 😳

And, our loved ones (and our medical teams) must be 'imagining' right along with us? 🤔

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😂 😂 😂

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I mean, that's the only logical explanation? 🤔

We're all imagining the whole thing!? 😳

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I guess ### must be right. 🤔

I'll cease practicing PP immediately & follow what ### says. . . 👍

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Now what was that again? 🤔

A Mediterranean diet, etc. along with a cocktail of meds? 🤔

Please, kindly remind me . . .

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This 'imagining' of wellness (via PP) must cease immediately . . .

Please, kindly return us to our previous states as prescribed by our medical teams. 🤦‍♀️ 🤦‍♂️

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😂 😂 😂

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Oh gawd, ---! . . . Thank you for bringing this to our attention. 🙏

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Hysterically funny as well as explaining an awful lot of what we'd witnessed (& experienced) going on . . . .

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Gawd help these people. 😔 🙏

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[Eye-opening to see what ### 'believes' spelled out in black & white. 😳 😯 Too bad I hadn't a clue about this when I 1st joined. Would've saved me an awful lot of time/ effort seeking to commune/ share with "like-minded". Perhaps ### should state this (its anti-PP stance) up front, so people like us wouldn't have bothered joining or trying to participate in the 1st place. 🤔 ]

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Oh wait, wait . . .

Someone must also inform Dr. McDougall, Dr. Klaper, Dr. Greger, Dr. Aggarwal, Dr. Fuhrman, Dr. Barnard, Dr. Ornish, et. al. that they too are very much mistaken — because '###' says so.

Oh, don't forget all those podcasts guests who must also be informed of their error . . . because '###' says " . . . no evidence base at all."

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We ARE 'living proof' of the efficacy of d/l [diet/ lifestyle] — somehow, someway — our existence is to be minimised/ denied. (What the hell is that all about? 🤔 )

In essence, we're portrayed as liars 🤥 'n thieves 🤑 . . . 😯

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😆 😂 🤣

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YIPEEE!!!! 🤗 🤗 🤗 . 🎉 🎈 🎊

Well done you!!! 👏 👏 👏

I bet worth every ounce of effort! 😃

Looking forward to next . . . update. 😃 🙏

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Oh . . . Sorry sorry . . . I meant to say:"I'm very sorry you're continuing to 'imagine' your improvements, . . . . " 😔

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It's very sad that you've been hoodwinked into believing your well enough to get off your meds . . . as well as falling prey to a "money making scheme" . . . 😞

[After all, 'free' 🆓 info, is too high a price even for the most financially strapped . . . 🙄 ]

It's equally sad how your medical team is hallucinating right along with you & agreeing/ advising(?) you to get off your meds . . . 😞

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What would ### say?! 😳 🤔

Please, please, cease this foolishness immediately, . . . ! 😱

Call ### & do as ### advises. 😌

😂 🤣 🙃

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Keep on, dear . . . 👍

Keep on. 🙏

Laugh at all this foolishness . . . 😆

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🙏 🍀 🌺 🌞

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. . . Hmm . . . wondering if ###, ---, et. al. . . . do what they do for 'free'? 🤔

Do they "live off air" & the 'virtuous-ness' of their . . . 'charity' work? 🤔

(Perhaps the very things they accuse others of, they need look in a mirror & reflect on themselves a bit more closely. 😳 🤔 🙃 )

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Keep well dear . . . . 🙏

Keep seeing with a cool, clear eye . . . 👁

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### continues to live in a 'dark cave'.

Apparently, *anyone* attempting to share a bit of light 🕯 must be quashed.

Yet, nice of them to . . . 'put in writing' what they *actually* think about PP.

Finally explains *WHY* they allowed all those outrageous, egregious 'shenanigans' to go on.

And, I suspect none — NONE — of the perpetrators/ instigators were chided for their actions. 😨

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What a . . . !

[Gawd help anyone who sets foot . . . .]

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For PPers (or individuals) sincerely interested in PP events:

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Live Paddison Program Events in the USA 🇺🇸

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8-minute audio explanation: paddisonprogram.com/live-pa...

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Clint Paddison is putting on Paddison Program events in the USA over the coming 12 months. The first two locations are Los Angeles and North Carolina. You can book a ticket, or request Clint to come to your state, over at paddisonprogram.com/events

At events you will learn medication, diet, exercise, stress reduction and supplementation information to minimise your RA symptoms and maximise your health.

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🙏 🍀 🌺 🌞

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USA Paddison Program 2017 Events: paddisonprogram.com/events/

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HOW TO REVERSE RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS SYMPTOMS NATURALLY

Live Event with Clint Paddison

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🇺🇸 September 24, Sunday — Anaheim, Los Angeles, California

🇺🇸 October 13, Friday — Asheville, North Carolina

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HOW TO REVERSE RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS SYMPTOMS NATURALLY

Live Event with Clint Paddison

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🇺🇸 September 24, Sunday

10:00 AM – 12:30 PM PDT

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Anaheim, Los Angeles, California : eventbrite.com/e/how-to-rev...

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Business Expo Centre

1960 S. Anaheim Way

Anaheim, California 92805

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Map: eventbrite.com/e/how-to-rev...

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Directions: businessexpocenter.com/?pag...

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Agenda

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9.30am to 10am - Arrival

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10am - 11.15am - Clint Paddison presents: reversing RA symptoms and client success strategies

Clint will share his story of reversing RA including content from his popular TEDx talk and new information regarding the mental game in overcoming RA. Clint will cover

• Clint's personal story and the journey of overcoming RA symptoms naturally

• The mental mindset and attitude required to heal

• What's working in the Paddison Program support forum

• Underlying cause of RA and it's manifestation

• Why diet and exercise are so key to minimising symptoms

• The ideal dietary approach to heal the gut and minimise drug dependancy

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11.15am - 11.30am - Break

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11.30am - 12.30pm - Clint will cover:

• Joint-by-joint pain reversal guide

• Dangers of existing medical treatment of RA

• Green Yellow Red guidelines on RA medications

• Minimising secondary RA effects like osteoarthritis and oesteoporosis (an outcome of some common RA medications)

• How to get further help from Clint

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12.30pm - End

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HOW TO REVERSE RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS SYMPTOMS NATURALLY

Live Event with Clint Paddison

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🇺🇸 October 13, Friday:

7:00 PM – 9:30 PM EDT

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Asheville, North Carolina: eventbrite.com/e/how-to-rev...

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University of North Carolina

1 University Heights

Mt. View Room

Asheville, North Carolina 28804

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Map: eventbrite.com/e/how-to-rev...

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Agenda

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6pm to 7pm - Arrival

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7pm - 8.00pm - Clint Paddison presents: reversing RA symptoms and client success strategies

Clint will share his story of reversing RA including content from his popular TEDx talk and new information regarding the mental game in overcoming RA. Clint will cover

• Clint's personal story and the journey of overcoming RA symptoms naturally

• The mental mindset and attitude required to heal

• What's working in the Paddison Program support forum

• Underlying cause of RA and it's manifestation

• Why diet and exercise are so key to minimising symptoms

• The ideal dietary approach to heal the gut and minimise drug dependancy

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8.00pm - 8.15pm - Break

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8.15am - 9.30pm - Clint will cover:

• Joint-by-joint pain reversal guide

• Dangers of existing medical treatment of RA

• Green Yellow Red guidelines on RA medications

• Minimising secondary RA effects like osteoarthritis and oesteoporosis (an outcome of some common RA medications)

• How to get further help from Clint

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9:30pm - End

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A bit more about the events as described in PP emailing invite:

" . . . I've got several live events planned across the US over the coming months.

These will be focussed on Reversal of RA and other inflammatory autoimmune conditions.

The first two locations are Los Angeles and North Carolina. (Florida will be in November, more to come on that)

At these high-level events I will present detailed diet, exercise, stress reduction and supplementation plans to minimise your RA symptoms and maximise your health.

You will also learn about the drug minefield and how to avoid falling into the sinkhole when it comes to the horrible meds - you'll learn how to get onto a clear path forward with the meds so they don't keep setting you backwards via leaky gut and other RA-exacerbating side effects. . . . "

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PP forum is a ‘pay forum’ 💰 — not free (🚫 🆓).

My guessing/ speculation why it’s 🚫 🆓 (in full context here): healthunlocked.com/cure-art... (scroll toward bottom of post).

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Excerpt here:

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"Yes, PP has a paid forum. Have heard it referred to on podcasts. Am guessing the majority of PPers haven’t had to join the forum & have managed on their own? 🤔 🤷‍♂️

I don’t begrudge individuals ‘earning an honest living’ — creating/ sharing information via podcasts, websites, pay forum, etc. — for their hard work, time, & effort. 😌

I respect & admire what they’ve created from their own labour. 🙏 😌

Who could find fault with that?! 😳

After all, our rheumatologist/ medics are allowed to earn a living from their hard work — time & effort? 🤔

Why shouldn’t someone who’s providing useful, specialised dietary & lifestyle information/ service also be allowed to earn a living from their hard work — time & effort? 🤔

And, if you (or a family member) earn a paycheck (earn a living from hard work), I assume you believe you’ve fairly earned that money through your hard work — time & effort? 🤔

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Similarly, why begrudge individuals who can afford to pay for special support or services who have the means & ability to do so? 🤔 Gawd bless’em!! 😇

Anything anyone can do to help themselves awaken from the nightmare of autoimmune disease/ RA is fortunate🍀. May we all be so blessed. 😌 🙏

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And, I’m guessing, people who are paying for the services (forum, books, etc.) fund/ support/ enable PP to do the work they do? 🤔 That work includes the free sharing of information — via podcast/ website, that some of us depend upon (at no charge).]

It seems, there’s a balance ⚖️ between those people who can afford to pay & those people who can’t afford to pay & access to the same basic/ core information? 🤔

Hard to complain about something those of us who are benefitting from are receiving for free. 🤔 😳

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Am guessing (speculating) Dr. McDougall’s operation might work similarly? 🤔

Individuals who can afford to pay for Dr. M’s books, in-patient care, seminars, etc. allow Dr. M & his staff to earn a living, while simultaneously allowing the free website content (articles, videos, forum, etc.) to be provided for free 🆓 to those of us who can’t afford such wonderful services. 👍👍

I’d imagine it not only costs money to create, run, & maintain websites, videos, forums, etc. but also to pay for staff? 🤔 Would guess it’d take a lot of time & energy & ‘manpower’ to "make it all happen". I’d think those people who are doing all that work (that we freely benefit from) should be allowed to earn a living, just as our rheums. & medics (& their staffs/ infrastructure, etc.) are allowed to earn a living from their efforts ? 🤔

Dunno . . . 🤷‍♀️ 🤷‍♂️

It seems to be a win-win all round from my simple, layman’s perspective? 🤔

It seems unfair, ‘unseemly’ to complain about receiving free information that has helped me & continues to help me? I’m deeply grateful/ appreciative of the mounds of quality, substantive, free information that has helped me.

(That free information was likely ‘financed’ by people who could afford to purchase PP & people who could afford to pay for the PP forum? 🤔 )

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I link to that free PP web/ Podcast information (as well as other information from various sources) from these very forums.

All that abundant information (from various sources) is for people who are genuinely interested in learning from the same useful sources that I’ve learned from.

Thankfully, these HU forums allow this type of information to be posted/ shared / linked to amongst interested individuals.

Free 🆓 help, free 🆓 resources for those of us who lack the means to purchase anything. 👍👍

Some folks quietly appreciate the resources 😌 & use it to jumpstart their research 🕵️‍♀️🔎 ?

Other folks say their being ‘advertised to’, ‘pushed’, ‘forced’ . . . even ‘assualted’! 😳 🙃 🤔

The best suggestion to anyone who ‘perceives’ the sharing of free information as ‘unpleasant/ unwanted’: kindly avert your eyes 😑 & scroll past.

You’re not being ‘sold’ anything. (The content is free 🆓.)

Your ‘tolerance’/ forbearance allows people of limited financial means to connect with free information that is of use/ of interest to them.

If it’s not of interest to you, simply ignore it, by-pass it. 😌

That free info helps us improve our QoL (Quality of Life). It’s a ‘lifeline’ for some of us, despite it being perceived as an ‘annoyance’ by others. 🤔 "

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