Paddison Diet

[Tizzyliz67]

Has anyone on here tried the Paddison diet??? Want to see if it is really helpful or some guy trying to sell stuff??

Shari

[Tizzyliz67]

Kai have you tried this program?? I have been reading about it hoping to find some of some individuals on it? Thanks i have watched most of the YouTube stuff, but I will definitely read though your sites.

Shari

[Tizzyliz67]

Thank you Kai!! That was not as vague!!👍😊

[patricia1965]

It takes lots of discipline but it definitely works to reduce the symptoms. The key is in healing the gut.

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Tizzyliz67/ Shari, here's the 3 restored 'Replies' from the original time each were posted:

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1️⃣ 1st restored 'Reply' to Tizzyliz67/ Shari:

👍 Paddison program: healthunlocked.com/search/p...

👍 Paddison podcast: paddisonprogram.com/blog/

👍 Paddison videos: m.youtube.com/channel/UC54r...

👍 Plant-based diet/ lifestyle: healthunlocked.com/search/p...

Judge for yourself, Tizzyliz67. 🙏

(It's not merely 'diet'; it's lifestyle changes as well. 👍)

Wishing you wellness, Tizzyliz67. 🍀

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2️⃣ 2nd restored 'Reply' to Tizzyliz67/ Shari:

Yes. 👍 A lifesaver for me, Tizzyliz67/ Shari. 🙏

My understanding is it works for some of us & not all of us.

[This is a puzzlement: why it works for some & not all. (Don't understand/ comprehend why.) 🤔 ]

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Appears to be a 'trial & error' process for each & every one of us. Can't 'predict' degree of improvement ahead of time for each individual.

Additionally many find it (diet & lifestyle changes) a difficult process initially -- some too difficult, others find it doable, & yet others find it not that difficult. 👍

We each figure it out as we go along.

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As you'd anticipate, Shari, for those whom the process works, we can't speak highly enough of it. 🤗 (It's a blessing -- a life-changer for us. 🙏 )

And, for those whom the process has not worked, there can be bitter disappointment & disparagement in equal measure. 😒

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Additionally, there's abundant misconceptions/ misunderstandings 'floating about' ( healthunlocked.com/ra-warri... ) that are continually repeated.

A lack of genuine, in-depth understanding/ experience with the process adds to never-ending confusion about dietary/ lifestyle approaches & (dare I say) perpetuates 'fear & ignorance.'

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Yes, Shari, continue reading, learning, & implementing. 👍

Judge for yourself. ⚖ 🤔

Work hand-in-hand with your physicians. 👍

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And, for pity sake 😉, kindly don't allow other folks bitterness, discouragement, ignorance -- or FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) -- dissuade you from researching, learning, & trying.

Only you can judge whether or not it works for you. 👍

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Other HU/ NRASer's following Paddison Program:

👉 Shaun94: healthunlocked.com/user/sha...

👉 andyswarbs : healthunlocked.com/user/and...

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . foodandarthritis.blogspot.c...

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There's an eye-bleeding plethora of information to wade through. 😳 😱 🙃 😂

The only 'truth that counts' is what works for YOU! 👍

(All the rest is 'noise.')

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Supplemental thoughts: healthunlocked.com/ra-warri...

Use (& trust) your own gawd-given common sense throughout the process, Shari. 👍 😉

Best wishes to you. 🙏 🍀

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3️⃣ 3rd restored 'Reply' to Tizzyliz67/ Shari & patricia1965:

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Tizzyliz67/ Shari & patricia1965, you may get a kick out of this 1-hour video & audio podcast: paddisonprogram.com/roxana-... with Roxana, 'the Sophia Vergara of Peru' 😉 (& now The States).

Roxana improved 2 autoimmune illnesses (RA & Hashimotos) via diet & lifestyle changes 😃:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=CX1Kd...(Not working as expected?)

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Roxana shares more of her journey:

FabulosaBeatRA: endoyin.com/user/fabulosabe...

FabulosaWithRA: pikore.co/profile.php?id=35...

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🍃 🍹 🍈 🍚 💦 👟 🚴 🏋 🏊 ⛱ 🌞 👣 👙 👗 👠 💃🏻🏃 ❤️ 🍀 🙏 🤗

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There's abundant hope for all of us! 🤗 👍 🙏

Wishing you well! 🌺

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[robinplantstrong]

I got very ill on it. They do not refund either. Would not recommend.

[Kai-- in reply to robinplantstrong]

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Sad to hear you’d a poor experience, robinplantstrong. 😔 🙏

Hope you’re feeling better now. 🙏🤞

If you’re comfortable detailing your experience, would you mind sharing specifics about what didn’t work for you? 🤔 I’d appreciate learning & better understanding shortfalls of the process. 😌 🙏

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My understanding is, PP :

• Is nutrient dense 🥗🍲 ( healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ) & sustainable long-term. (Myself & others are practicers for quite some time; even our rheumatologists 👩‍⚕️👨‍⚕️ are surprised & even encourage us to ‘keep doing what we’re doing because we’re doing well’ on the program. 👍👍 )

• Does refund 💰: ". . . a refund during a period of 30 days 🗓 from the date of purchase . . . " ( paddisonprogram.com/terms/ )

• Advises us to increase our volume 🍲🍲🍲🍛🍛🍛 of food intake (especially of our high-caloric ‘safe’ foods) if we lose too much weight or are underweight 💀 from the outset.

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Don’t know if you were aware of any of this or if you’d been mistakenly advised otherwise? 🤔 (Either way, it’s a shame you’d not had this information to help along the way. 😔 )

There’s also ‘troubleshooting’ techniques as well. (I’d learned much of this from listening to the audio/ video 🎙 📹 podcasts , which are free 🆓 .) Don’t know if you’d had an opportunity to follow the podcast at all? 🤔

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If it helps, there are HU forum members who’ve had good, long-term experience with PP & other processes. [Many have moved on & no longer (or rarely) participate in these forums.] Two other HU autoimmuners have discussed their experiences in detail on PP Podcasts in addition to posting on forums:

👱‍♂️ andyswarbs : healthunlocked.com/user/and...

👱‍♂️ Shaun94: healthunlocked.com/user/sha...

[Have learned much from Andy & Shaun, as well as many other podcast guests & speakers. They’re invaluable ‘inspirations & educators’ (whether they’re aware of it or not ☺️ ).]

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If you’re interested 🤔 in additional PP experiences (good, bad, indifferent . . . ), there are discussions at NRAS forum: healthunlocked.com/search/p...

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Again, sad to hear it didn’t suit you, robinplantstrong. 😔 Hope you find a process that works well for you & you’ll consider sharing it. [Think quite a few of us are continually interested in the various approaches & techniques — what works well & what doesn’t. We all, blessedly, continue to learn from each other.] 🙏 🍀 🌺 🌞

Wishing you a Happy 😊 Christmas 🎄surrounded by supportive, spirit-lifting loved ones. 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦👨‍👩‍👦‍👦

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Bit of good cheer to hopefully bring you a smile ☺️ : giphy.com/gifs/zNK07ghRbFhU... , giphy.com/gifs/VPWELHArRmTX... , giphy.com/gifs/3ofT5FB34m2q... , giphy.com/gifs/z9SOzyGuqVzI... , giphy.com/gifs/11mMaZpiHhTK...

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🎄 🔖 🎁 🎅 ❄️ ☃️ 🌨

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[Have placed this info at both of your post Replies:

• ‘Paddison Diet’: healthunlocked.com/cure-art...

• ‘Pattison Program? Anyone on this?’: healthunlocked.com/cure-art... ]

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[robinplantstrong]

Lost too much weight. Followed program to a tee and got worse. Reacted to a lot of the foods on the program, grains and citrus, miso. My doctor suggested the McDougall Program which is also plant based and I was able to recover and gain back the weight I lost. Off my meds doing the McDougall Program and it is free and has free online support groups, which Paddison program does not have. You have to pay to be in a support group. I also don't like programs to be in support groups for RA pushing a paid program.

[Kai-- in reply to robinplantstrong]

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Delighted/ relieved Dr. McDougall’s Program works for you, robinplantstrong. 🤗 👍👍

A blessed relief to find something that works well for us — a match, a good ‘fit’. ☺️ 🙏 👍

Delighted to hear you’ve a doctor who’s aware of Dr. McDougall’s work & actually recommended it & even guided you off meds!! 🤗 (Quite a feat! 👣 😂 )

You’re fortunate to have an ‘enlightened’ 👨‍⚕️👩‍⚕️ physician. [There are still (residual?) dinosaurs 🦖 🦕 about who still believe there’s no connection between gut & joint health . . . 😳 😖 🙃 ]

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[Kai-- in reply to robinplantstrong]

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Aside:

We’re not supposed to continue ingesting any food that we ‘react to’; there’s a spectrum of foods to choose from so that we’re never ‘stuck/ trapped/ forced’ to eat from ‘troublesome’ foods (grains, citrus, miso, or whatever our body reacts negatively to). 😁

And, we’re supposed to increase our high-calorie foods to prevent weight loss if ‘loss of weight’ is an issue for us.

I respectfully understand you believe you’d followed, PP "to the letter", but merely hearing some of the things you’ve noted, it sounds like there may have been a bit of misunderstanding/ confusion/ ‘disconnect’ about aspects of the process? 🤔 Apologies 🙏 , if I’m misunderstanding (no offense intended 🙏 ) that’s merely my ‘impression’.

The process is fluid/ adaptable to handle trouble points; so, it sounds as if there was a misunderstanding of what was appropriate to ingest when problems started? 🤔

Through experiential learning, we better understand how to navigate the roadmap 🗺 , tailoring it to our body’s needs as we go along. We exercise common sense, sound judgement, & adjust food & lifestyle choices according to how our body reacts.

Through understanding the process (through experience & time), each trouble spot can be overcome. It’s not a fixed, set-in-stone, iron-clad process. 😳 There’s maneuverability, wiggle room, flexibility to adapt to individual needs — especially when something is not agreeing with our body. 😌

Unfortunately, that critical point of flexibility/ adaptability is overlooked or perhaps ‘misunderstood’ by folks implementing the process — especially if we’re relatively new/ inexperienced. Very, very unfortunate. 😔

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[Kai-- in reply to robinplantstrong]

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Yes, love that Dr. McDougall process is free 🆓 & that his support forum is free 🆓 too!! [Aside: Don’t know if you’re aware of Nicole S. O’Shea ( healthunlocked.com/cure-art... ) from Dr. M’s forum? It’s a small, small world 🌐. 😄]

What a blessing! 😌🙏 Thank gawd your doctor recommended it & thank goodness Dr. M’s process works well for you! ☺️ What good fortune is that!?🍀

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By the same token Dr. M’s process isn’t enough for some of us & we need further refinement/ tailoring via other processes. For some of us, PP is a process that allows further refinement/ fine-tuning that fortunately works well for us. 😌

Through those free 🆓 PP podcasts (& free website) we’re able to learn freely (over time) how to refine/ tailor the process to our unique needs. We listen & learn from the podcasts & put into practice what we learn.

Abundant detailed information is shared without us having to spend money we simply don’t have. [Many(?) of us haven’t had to purchase anything.]

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[Kai-- in reply to robinplantstrong]

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It’s difficult to find fault with such a freebie — especially when we keep our rheum. & physicians in the loop to monitor our progress & ensure we’re ‘safe’.

For example, by routine monitoring/ ‘checking in’ with our medics our weight is monitored/ maintained (avoiding dipping low) & we avoid reaching a point where we become ‘sick’.

With common sense & physician guidance, we make practical, sensible adjustments along the way, so we avoid reaching the point of becoming underweight or ill.

We surround ourselves with sensible support, medics, loved ones, etc. who thoughtfully serve as checks & balance. ⚖️ In other words, it’s very, very difficult to get ourselves ‘into trouble’ if we exercise reasonable precautions.

If we’re in a particularly unwell/ fragile state — before even considering a dietary/ lifestyle process — we’re aware of our delicate state & wouldn’t attempt such a process until we were much better.

If we insisted on pursuing a process while fragile/ delicate, I’d think, once again, those around us would exercise their common sense judgement & wouldn’t allow anything to be done without medical approval/ supervision.

It stands to reason, we (& those around us) need to exercise common sense.

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[Kai-- in reply to robinplantstrong]

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Yes, PP has a paid forum. Have heard it referred to on podcasts. Am guessing the majority of PPers haven’t had to join the forum & have managed on their own? 🤔 🤷‍♂️

I don’t begrudge individuals ‘earning an honest living’ — creating/ sharing information via podcasts, websites, pay forum, etc. — for their hard work, time, & effort. 😌

I respect & admire what they’ve created from their own labour. 🙏 😌

Who could find fault with that?! 😳

After all, our rheumatologist/ medics are allowed to earn a living from their hard work — time & effort? 🤔

Why shouldn’t someone who’s providing useful, specialised dietary & lifestyle information/ service also be allowed to earn a living from their hard work — time & effort? 🤔

And, if you (or a family member) earn a paycheck (earn a living from hard work), I assume you believe you’ve fairly earned that money through your hard work — time & effort? 🤔

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Similarly, why begrudge individuals who can afford to pay for special support or services who have the means & ability to do so? 🤔 Gawd bless’em!! 😇

Anything anyone can do to help themselves awaken from the nightmare of autoimmune disease/ RA is fortunate🍀. May we all be so blessed. 😌 🙏

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And, I’m guessing, people who are paying for the services (forum, books, etc.) fund/ support/ enable PP to do the work they do? 🤔 That work includes the free sharing of information — via podcast/ website, that some of us depend upon (at no charge).]

It seems, there’s a balance ⚖️ between those people who can afford to pay & those people who can’t afford to pay & access to the same basic/ core information? 🤔

Hard to complain about something those of us who are benefitting from are receiving for free. 🤔 😳

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[Kai-- in reply to robinplantstrong]

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Am guessing (speculating) Dr. McDougall’s operation might work similarly? 🤔

Individuals who can afford to pay for Dr. M’s books, in-patient care, seminars, etc. allow Dr. M & his staff to earn a living, while simultaneously allowing the free website content (articles, videos, forum, etc.) to be provided for free 🆓 to those of us who can’t afford such wonderful services. 👍👍

I’d imagine it not only costs money to create, run, & maintain websites, videos, forums, etc. but also to pay for staff? 🤔 Would guess it’d take a lot of time & energy & ‘manpower’ to "make it all happen". I’d think those people who are doing all that work (that we freely benefit from) should be allowed to earn a living, just as our rheums. & medics (& their staffs/ infrastructure, etc.) are allowed to earn a living from their efforts ? 🤔

Dunno . . . 🤷‍♀️ 🤷‍♂️

It seems to be a win-win all round from my simple, layman’s perspective? 🤔

It seems unfair, ‘unseemly’ to complain about receiving free information that has helped me & continues to help me? I’m deeply grateful/ appreciative of the mounds of quality, substantive, free information that has helped me.

(That free information was likely ‘financed’ by people who could afford to purchase PP & people who could afford to pay for the PP forum? 🤔 )

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[Kai-- in reply to robinplantstrong]

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I link to that free PP web/ Podcast information (as well as other information from various sources) from these very forums.

All that abundant information (from various sources) is for people who are genuinely interested in learning from the same useful sources that I’ve learned from.

Thankfully, these HU forums allow this type of information to be posted/ shared / linked to amongst interested individuals.

Free 🆓 help, free 🆓 resources for those of us who lack the means to purchase anything. 👍👍

Some folks quietly appreciate the resources 😌 & use it to jumpstart their research 🕵️‍♀️🔎 ?

Other folks say their being ‘advertised to’, ‘pushed’, ‘forced’ . . . even ‘assualted’! 😳 🙃 🤔

The best suggestion to anyone who ‘perceives’ the sharing of free information as ‘unpleasant/ unwanted’: kindly avert your eyes 😑 & scroll past.

You’re not being ‘sold’ anything. (The content is free 🆓.)

Your ‘tolerance’/ forbearance allows people of limited financial means to connect with free information that is of use/ of interest to them.

If it’s not of interest to you, simply ignore it, by-pass it. 😌

That free info helps us improve our QoL (Quality of Life). It’s a ‘lifeline’ for some of us, despite it being perceived as an ‘annoyance’ by others. 🤔

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[Kai-- in reply to robinplantstrong]

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I’m sorry PP didn’t work for you, robinplantstrong. And, it’s unfortunate you didn’t get your money back. It sounds like you may have requested it after the 30 day ‘date of purchase’? 🤔

Light-hearted aside: Maybe that would be a nice policy to institute with our rheums/ medics? Getting a 30-day money back guarantee, if their recommendations, prescriptions, etc. fail us within 30 days? 😂 😂 😂

[Nah . . . I don’t begrudge my rheum. or medics 👨‍⚕️👩‍⚕️ . . . for errors/ misjudgments, etc.. 🙏 😌 I know their good-hearted people doing their very best to help us with the information, tests, & tools they have ‘at (their) hand’. And, still sometimes — despite best efforts — things just don’t work out. That’s just the way things unfold. That’s just the way life is. Having such horrific diseases teaches us to "roll with the punches". 😌 ]

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[Kai-- in reply to robinplantstrong]

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Best wishes & continued good health on Dr. M’s process!! 😊 🙏

From what I understand, Dr. M’s work was some of the foundational work/ inspiration upon which PP was built & later refined? 🤔

In fact, Dr. M appeared on the PP podcast, as well as other reputable plant-based physicians ( healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ). (Perhaps some of those folks you’re already well aware of — already well acquainted with their works?) Lot’s of good information shared amongst the various nuanced ‘flavours’ of plant-based doctors & their approaches. Good stuff. 👍👍

Again, very glad you found something that works well for you, robinplantstrong. 😌

Think it’s wise 🦉, sensible for each of us to follow what works well for us. 🙏 🍀 🌺 🌞

Best wishes to you & your beloveds for continued good health & a lovely holiday.

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[Kai-- in reply to robinplantstrong]

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Afterthought Idea💡: Might you consider posting your success with Dr. McDougall’s process, robinplantstrong?

People may appreciate hearing what in particular worked well for you?

Knowing that Dr. M’s work is also free, I’m guessing people would appreciate links to any useful web articles, videos, etc. that helped you along your way? And, any tips/ techniques you’d found particularly helpful, etc.?

Think when we share together what’s working well for us, we ‘cross-pollinate’ 🌼 🐝 🌸 🐝 🌺 🐝 .

We learn from each other. 👍👍

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Another idea 💡: If PP is no longer a process that’s of use to you (since Dr. M is working well for you), rather than tossing PP out, why not pass it along to someone who may well be interested & benefit from it?

Perhaps someone in need would greatly appreciate such a kindness? Perhaps considering it a generous Christmas 🎄 gift 🎁 to a fellow autoimmuner who might greatly benefit? 🤔 [Maybe suggest that any interested individual PM ( support.healthunlocked.com/... ; support.healthunlocked.com/... ) you to make arrangements to receive the information if it’s no longer of any use to you, that is? 🤔 ] Merely a thought. 😌 🙏

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