Paddison Program (PP): Clinical Trial, Rheumatologist Contacting Clint Paddison, 'Guide for Rheumatologists', TEDtalk, etc.

Paddison Program (PP): Clinical Trial, Rheumatologist Contacting Clint Paddison, 'Guide for Rheumatologists', TEDtalk, etc.

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Paddison Program (PP): Clinical Trial, Rheumatologist Contacting Clint Paddison ( info@paddisonprogram.com ), 'Guide for Rheumatologists', TEDtalk, etc.

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This post, RA. RA drugs and Statins. Start a new post to save a lot of scrolling down๐Ÿ˜ƒ ( healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...๐Ÿ˜ƒ ), was catalyst for seeking PP 'data release/ clinical trial' info.

(References from that post are placed below for 'easy reference/ viewing'.)

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The transcript text (from picture above) is noted below along with accompanying links ๐Ÿ”— for easy reference.

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    Think this addresses concerns about 'Paddison Program' data release/ clinical trials, etc.:

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    From transcript "Ruben turns his life around with the Paddison Program for RA" ( paddisonprogram.com/ruben-t... ) / video minute 16:18:

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    " . . . Clint: Go ahead and tell her the same thing.

    What I'm about to say applies to anyone listening or watching our video.

    If your rheumatologist wants to speak with me then I will personally have a conversation with them on Skype or phone and they can contact me and I will pick up the phone and I will spend as long as they want over the phone talking about this.

    I know that not many rheumatologist will probably accept that invitation because they would consider that to be insulting to their own intelligence perhaps or maybe they're shut down to ideas that aren't presented to them at the conferences that they pay a lot of money to attend every year or the scientific papers that they read maybe aren't addressing this as the primary path forward.

    However what I want you to do is to pass on that invitation and anyone please pass the invitation.

    I can be contacted.

    My team pick up my emails that info@paddisonprogram.com.

    So whenever there's something that needs my attention it comes to me and I will happily follow up on that in the interim what we can do is we can direct them to my TED talk which was the talk that you mentioned in your earlier and also I have the Guide for Rheumatologists and I'll put the download link on the show notes of this episode so anyone who's listening to this can jump onto our website, grab the guide for rheumatologist and it includes all of the scientific studies that show the link between not just the gut and how it interacts with the immune system and gut bacteria and how they influence the decisions that our gut lining has as to what should be passed through the gut wall and what should be withheld into the intestine but also all the studies that have been done with people following a diet that's somewhat similar to what I recommend.

    Low fat plant based diet and how the tremendous improvements that they have made.

    So when people say to me why don't you go ahead and do a clinical trial.

    Well yes we have that in the pipelines but it's a lot of money to do and it's very hard to organize and requires a collaboration that requires me to hire staff to become research assistants and all of this work that needs to be done.

    And in the interim, I can present a very very comprehensive compilation in a document called The Guide for Rheumatologist that people can read and say well there you go look there's the there's overwhelming evidence here.

    Do we really need Clint to run this clinical trial.

    And yes I will do it because I think that that loop needs to be closed.

    But in the meantime we're kind of like 90 percent there with this document that I already have put together. . . . "

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    Video minute 16:18: "Ruben turns his life around with the Paddison Program for RA":

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    Links ๐Ÿ”— to references (noted above) are listed here for the convenience of readers interested in researching ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธ ๐Ÿ”Ž further:

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    ๐Ÿ”— "Guide for Rheumatologists": paddisonprogram.com/wp-cont...

    ["Guide for Rheumatologists" V 1.5.6 (for 'Paddison Program'-ers): healthunlocked.com/ra-warri... ]

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    ๐Ÿ”— Email contact for Rheumatologists wishing to speak with Clint Paddison:

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    ๐Ÿ”— TEDtalk: Clint Paddison at TEDxBondUniversity:

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    RA. RA drugs and Statins. Start a new post to save a lot of scrolling down๐Ÿ˜ƒ healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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    Thank you kindly, dtech. ๐Ÿ˜Œ Much appreciated. ๐Ÿ™ โ˜บ๏ธ

    Have included links ๐Ÿ”— to the sequence of 3 photo ๐Ÿ–ผ references (below) & linked to (for convenience) for other readers who may also be interested.

    [Have also added links ๐Ÿ”— (to references noted within photo text) for ease of use for those of us who are interested in researching ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธ ๐Ÿ”Ž further.]

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    ๐Ÿ–ผ Page 1 photo โ€” How to reduce your sugar intake: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

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    ๐Ÿ–ผ Page 2 photo โ€” Step 1: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

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    ๐Ÿ”— Robert Lustig: "Sugar: The Bitter Truth":

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    ๐Ÿ”— Robert Lustig: "The Complete Skinny on Obesity":

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    ๐Ÿ”— Dr. Richard Johnson lectures (University of Colorado): google.com/search?as_q=%22D...

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    ๐Ÿ”— "That Sugar Film": thatsugarfilm.com/

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    ๐Ÿ”— Action on Sugar: actiononsugar.org/

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    ๐Ÿ”— The Sugar Smart App: publichealthnetwork.cymru/e...

    ๐Ÿ”— Change4Life: nhs.uk/change4life-beta/car...

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    ๐Ÿ–ผ Page 3 photo โ€” healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...๐Ÿ˜

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    Step 2:

    ๐Ÿ”— "Food Rules" book by Michael Pollan: amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_no...

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    ๐Ÿ”— "Michael Pollanโ€™s Food Rules":https://vimeo.com/35444471

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    ๐Ÿ”— "Food Rules according to Michael Pollan":

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    ๐Ÿ”— 'Jason Vale' YouTube: m.youtube.com/user/Juicemas...

    ๐Ÿ”— "Jason Vale โ€“ Super Juice Me! Documentary":

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    Thank you, again, dtech. ๐Ÿ™ Much appreciated. ๐Ÿ˜Œ

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    RAers Who Implement Whole Food Plant-Based Diet/ Lifestyle (WFP-BD/L) & Physicians (& Others) Who Recommend It

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    [Compiled (from 2-part list) at source post FREE Whole Foods Plant-Based Diet/ Lifestyle (WFP-BD/L) Info for Interested Autoimmuners/ RAers: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ]

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    ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ Wim Hof: Reversing Autoimmune Diseases: paddisonprogram.com/wim-hof...

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    ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Iida:

    1) Reverses ANA Positive Oligoarthritis with Paddison Program & Yoga: paddisonprogram.com/iida-re...

    2) Iida Is Pregnant & Super Healthy: paddisonprogram.com/iida-pr...

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    ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Ellen: Reversing Her RA Symptoms:

    1) paddisonprogram.com/ellen-i...

    2) paddisonprogram.com/ellen-i...

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    ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ Andrea: RA Insights: paddisonprogram.com/rheumat...

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    ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Somerset: Healing RA with Plant-Based Diets: paddisonprogram.com/healing...

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    ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Dr. John McDougall: The Truth About RA: paddisonprogram.com/the-tru...

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    ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ David Wolfe: Talks RA & Healthy Living: paddisonprogram.com/david-w...

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    ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Dr. Michael Greger: Talks RA: paddisonprogram.com/dr-greg...

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    ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Joseph Encinia: Juvenile RA: paddisonprogram.com/joseph-...

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    ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Christine: Gets Off Plaquenil & Becomes Pain Free from RA: paddisonprogram.com/christi...

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    ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Dr. Michael Klaper: Optimal Diet & Natural RA Treatment: paddisonprogram.com/dr-klap...

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    ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ Andy: Andy Becomes Pain Free & Drug Free: paddisonprogram.com/andy-be...

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    ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ Hanna: Hanna Gets Her Health Back: paddisonprogram.com/hanna-g...

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    ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Dr. Monica Agarwal:

    1) Explains Reversing RA Personally & Professionally: paddisonprogram.com/dr-moni...

    2) Driving Positive Change for RA Treatment & Public Health: paddisonprogram.com/dr-moni...

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    ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Dr. Nisha Manek: Rheumatologist Interviews Clint Paddison: paddisonprogram.com/rheumat...

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    ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Richard Matthews:

    1) How Gut Bacteria Influences RA: paddisonprogram.com/how-gut...

    2) Probiotics & RA: paddisonprogram.com/probiot...

    3) Hormones & RA: paddisonprogram.com/hormone...

    4) Benefits of Oats: paddisonprogram.com/the-ben...

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    ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ Rowena Jayne:

    1) Using Bikram Yoga to Help Reverse RA: paddisonprogram.com/using-b...

    2) Raw Foods for RA: paddisonprogram.com/raw-foo...

    3) Naturopathic Tips for RA Pain & Stress Reduction: paddisonprogram.com/naturop...

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    ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ Karen: Inspirational RA Interview: paddisonprogram.com/inspira...

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    ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Clint Paddison:

    โ€ข Welcome to the Paddison Program Podcast: paddisonprogram.com/podcast...

    โ€ข 7 Important RA Lessons from Ghitaโ€™s RA Journey: paddisonprogram.com/7-impor...

    โ€ข RA & Hope: paddisonprogram.com/hope/

    โ€ข Stress & RA: paddisonprogram.com/stress-...

    โ€ข RA Symptoms: paddisonprogram.com/rheumat...

    โ€ข Clint Explains RA Reversal on the FX Medicine Podcast: paddisonprogram.com/clint-e...

    โ€ข Protein Powders for RA: paddisonprogram.com/protein...

    โ€ข NSAIDs Causing More RA Every Day: paddisonprogram.com/nsaids/

    โ€ข Regular Bowel Movements: paddisonprogram.com/regular...

    โ€ข Methotrexate: paddisonprogram.com/methotr...

    โ€ข Live PP Events In the USA: paddisonprogram.com/live-pa...

    โ€ข Sitting Cross-Legged for RA โ€“ Helpful or Harmful: paddisonprogram.com/sitting...

    โ€ข Reversing RA โ€“ How Quickly Can You Heal Your Gut?: paddisonprogram.com/reversi...

    โ€ข RA In the Knees โ€“ One Big Tip: paddisonprogram.com/rheumat...

    โ€ข How to be happy: paddisonprogram.com/how-to-...

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    ๐Ÿ”˜ Videos: m.youtube.com/channel/UC54r...

    ๐Ÿ”˜ Facebook: facebook.com/RheumatoidArth...

    ๐Ÿ”˜ Paddison search results in:

    โ€ข NRAS forum: healthunlocked.com/search/p...

    โ€ข HU forum: healthunlocked.com/search/p...

    โ€ข Google: google.ca/search?as_q=&as_e...

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    ๐Ÿ”˜ Whole foods plant based diet lifestyle search results in:

    โ€ข NRAS forum: healthunlocked.com/search/w...

    โ€ข HU forum: healthunlocked.com/search/w...

    โ€ข Google: google.ca/search?as_q=whole...

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    ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒบ ๐ŸŒž

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    Often misunderstood, critical points (requiring clarification) about:

    . . . ๐Ÿ’‰ ๐Ÿ’Š Reducing meds

    . . . ๐Ÿ’‰ ๐Ÿ’Š Weaning off meds

    . . . ๐Ÿ’‰ ๐Ÿ’Š & No meds

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    as recently raised in posts:

    .

    โ€ข 'Stopped MTX and...'*: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos......

    โ€ข 'Mtx: when is "brain fog" serious'**: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

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    [Merely a continued attempt to clean up long strewn 'residual feathers' ๐Ÿ˜Œ ๐Ÿ™ :

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    [Content also posted at: Placing Dietary & Lifestyle Approaches 'In Context'/ 'In Perspective': healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ]

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    *My replies in: 'Stopped MTX and...': healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...... follow:

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    Kindly have a look-see at these supplemental resources to see if they ring a bell ๐Ÿ”” with you, hope-always316:

    ๐Ÿ”” DMARD Infographic: Methotrexate (MTX), Leflunomide (LEF), Sulphasalazine (SSP), Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ): healthunlocked.com/cure-art...

    ๐Ÿ”” Can I Avoid RA Drugs or Should I Go On Drugs? 'Paddison Program' FAQ Opinion; Also: Methotrexate Explanation & References: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

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    My understanding is it's not wise to even begin contemplating reducing meds ๐Ÿ’‰ ๐Ÿ’Š until:

    โ€ข Our inflammatory ๐Ÿ”ฅ markers are down โฌ‡๏ธ significantly over a sustained period of time (months on end ๐Ÿ—“ ๐Ÿ—“ ๐Ÿ—“ . . . ) as well as other indicators.

    โ€ข Looking at the 'big picture' ๐Ÿ–ผ (a multitude of factors), our rheum. ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€โš•๏ธ๐Ÿ‘จโ€โš•๏ธ assess it's now 'safe' to attempt a reduction โ€” only under their guidance ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€โš•๏ธ๐Ÿ‘จโ€โš•๏ธ & continual monitoring ๐Ÿ“ˆ๐Ÿ“‰ .

    โ€ข And, the reduction is only advised/ allowed in tiny/ small increments ๐Ÿ“ถ over an extended period of time months ๐Ÿ—“ ๐Ÿ—“ ๐Ÿ—“ . . . / year(?) โ€” all the while under our rheum's ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€โš•๏ธ๐Ÿ‘จโ€โš•๏ธ watchful eye ๐Ÿ‘

    โ€ข And, of course, we are CONTINUALLY IMPLEMENTING TECHNIQUES to keep inflammation down & disease progression 'at bay'.

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    It's a continual, life-long 'ebb & flow ใ€ฐใ€ฐ process' โ€”

    NOT ๐Ÿšซ an 'off ๐ŸŒš/ on ๐ŸŒ switch'.

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    Bears repeating: A continual, life-long 'ebb & flow ใ€ฐใ€ฐ process' โ€” NOT an 'off / on switch'.

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    [Merely my layman's understanding of med-reduction process. ๐Ÿ˜Œ ๐Ÿ™ ]

    Wishing you the very best, hope-always316. ๐Ÿ™ ๐ŸŒบ ๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒž

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    Wonderful ๐Ÿค— . . . relieved to hear. ๐Ÿ˜Œ ๐Ÿ‘

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    If this helps at all (merely for consideration):

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ In context, what's considered "within normal range" may not be considered 'good enough' for beginning reduction (in some rheums. ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€โš•๏ธ ๐Ÿ‘จโ€โš•๏ธ eyes). ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿค”

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ Dipping below 'normal/ standard/ typical range' range may be required. ๐Ÿค”

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ As well as reducing in even smaller increments โ€” over a longer period of time โ€” before attempting to wean off totally. ๐Ÿค”

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ As well has having a long-term 'maintenance' process/ strategy in place. ๐Ÿค”

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    Yes, yes, early days'n all. ๐Ÿ˜Œ ๐Ÿ™

    Perhaps putting it 'in context' (in framework) as a 'trial run' โ€” an 'experiential learning process' that'll serve you well down road. ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿ‘

    Yes, yes, accepting (patiently, gently) glitches & hiccups during trial 'n error runs as being 'normal/ typical' is sensible approach/ attitude. ๐Ÿ˜Œ ๐Ÿ™

    [No need for any blame ๐Ÿ˜ง , shame ๐Ÿ˜” , or 'whatever' ๐Ÿ™ƒ ๐Ÿ˜ฌ ๐Ÿคก .]

    It's merely part 'n parcel of the typical/ normal experiential (experimental) self-learning ๐Ÿค“ process that you go through hand in hand ๐Ÿค with your rheum. ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€โš•๏ธ .

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    ๐Ÿค“ ๐Ÿค ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€โš•๏ธ

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    You both figure it out 'as you go'.

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    As long as you continue 'trying' to help yourself, 'trying' to figure out what works for you, 'trying' to 'connect the dots' for your situation, you're in good stead, hope-always316. ๐Ÿ˜Œ ๐Ÿ™

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    โšซ๏ธ <โ€”> โšซ๏ธ <โ€”> ๐Ÿค” <โ€”> ๐Ÿค”

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    Good to hear update, hope-always316. ๐Ÿ˜Œ ๐Ÿ‘

    Thank you kindly for keeping us abreast. ๐Ÿ™

    If you're ever interested in attempting a 'safe' reduction process in future โ€” provided your body has achieved a sustained state of improvement/ healing & your rheum. believes it's safe/ appropriate for you to reduce meds at that time โ€” Julia's ๐Ÿ‘ฉ experience may come in handy:

    ๐Ÿ‘ฉ Julia has come off Methotrexate in a controlled manner: paddisonprogram.com/julia-h...

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    There's also a couple other gals (๐Ÿ‘ฉ Lor & ๐Ÿ‘ฉ Debbie) who may interest you over at seneca's post: Mtx: when is "brain fog" serious: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

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    **My replies in: 'Mtx: when is "brain fog" serious': healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... follow:

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    Oh lร  lร  . . . ๐Ÿ˜ณ

    Yes indeed, 'messing with one's brain' is "a side-effect too far", seneca. ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

    Scary ๐Ÿ˜ง when lapsing into gibberish . . . ๐Ÿ’ฌ ๐Ÿ—ฏ ๐Ÿ’ฌ ๐Ÿ—ฏ

    And, outright dangerous ๐Ÿ˜ฑ when behind the wheel of a car ๐Ÿš™ missing stops ๐Ÿ›‘ ๐Ÿ›‘ ๐Ÿ›‘ not merely once but thrice!!! ๐Ÿ˜จ

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    Merely couple additional perspectives, if 'this type of thing' interests you, seneca:

    ๐Ÿ‘ฉ EarthToLor: Psoriasis, RA, Depression, Weight Gain; Triple Therapy & More; Potatoes & Rice: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

    ๐Ÿ‘ฉ Debbie Is Now Drug Free . . .: paddisonprogram.com/debbie-...

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    And, a bit more supplemental info if interested:

    โ€ข DMARD Infographic: Methotrexate (MTX), Leflunomide (LEF), Sulphasalazine (SSP), Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ): healthunlocked.com/cure-art...

    โ€ข Can I Avoid RA Drugs or Should I Go On Drugs? 'Paddison Program' FAQ Opinion; Also: Methotrexate Explanation & References: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

    โ€ข Stopped MTX and...: healthunlocked.com/nras/pos......

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    Wishing you the very best. ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒบ ๐ŸŒž

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    As an aside, this bit on sleep may be of interest: Quality Deep Sleep: Physical/ Mental Restoration & Improving Health: healthunlocked.com/cure-art...

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    Oh no. . . . ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

    ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ™ƒ ๐Ÿคฃ

    Apologies for misunderstanding, seneca. ๐Ÿ™

    PP does NOT advocate 'popping off' meds nor going 'med-free'. ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

    Full stop. ๐Ÿ›‘

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    Reducing or 'weaning off' meds ๐Ÿ’‰ ๐Ÿ’Š , is only done for individuals under their rheumatologist ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€โš•๏ธ recommendation (& guidance ๐Ÿ‘จโ€โš•๏ธ ) after it's determined they no longer require medication.

    [If you read my explanation to hope-always316 over at post, 'Stopped MTX and...' ( healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...... ), this 'on-going' process may become a bit clearer ๐Ÿ‘“ ๐Ÿ‘€ .]

    Hope this helps. ๐Ÿ™

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    Perhaps it bears repeating, as this misperception has unfortunately been oft repeated ๐Ÿ—ฃ ๐Ÿ’ฌ ๐Ÿ—ฃ ๐Ÿ’ฌ ๐Ÿ—ฃ ๐Ÿ’ฌ on forums โ€” no matter how many times it's been clarified over the year(s) ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿ˜„ ๐Ÿ˜† :

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    Reducing or 'weaning off' meds ๐Ÿ’‰ ๐Ÿ’Š , is ONLY done for individuals under their rheumatologist ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€โš•๏ธ recommendation (& watchful ๐Ÿ‘€ guidance ๐Ÿ‘จโ€โš•๏ธ ) AFTER it's determined that it's 'safe' for them to attempt a med-reducing process.

    (Incremental step ๐Ÿ‘ฃ by incremental step ๐Ÿ‘ฃ โ€” inching ๐Ÿ“ along at snail's pace ๐ŸŒ . . . ๐ŸŒ . . . Backtracking if needed & inching forward if/as indicated . . . in a continuous cycle โ™ป๏ธ โ™ป๏ธ โ™ป๏ธ . . . )

    ONLY individuals for whom the reduction process 'is working' actually 'totally' wean off their particular meds because they no longer REQUIRE medication.*

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    Anyone who unadvisedly 'pops off' their meds, unilaterally decides to go 'med-free', or 'weans off' meds without their rhuem's approval/ guidance, or goes too quickly, or inappropriately (incorrectly) is "NOT following PP". ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿค”

    (This is my 'layman's' (non-science, non-medical) understanding of PP process. ๐Ÿ˜Œ )

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    Listening/ reading PP's actual podcasts, transcripts, text 'in context' would readily clarify ๐Ÿ‘“ this misunderstanding.

    I'm very sorry ๐Ÿ˜” you've been under a mis-impression, seneca. ๐Ÿ™

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    Kindly ๐Ÿ™ , don't take my word for it. ๐Ÿ˜Œ

    If you look at the ๐Ÿ“น videos ( healthunlocked.com/cure-art... ), listen to the actual podcasts ๐ŸŽ™ ( healthunlocked.com/cure-art.... ), & read the actual transcripts/ text ๐Ÿ“– in context, misperceptions (misinformation ๐Ÿคฅ ) would be cleared up.

    Wishing you (& your beloved sister ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ‘ฉ ) the very best, seneca. ๐Ÿ˜Œ Please take good care. ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒบ ๐ŸŒž

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    On a humorous/ reflective note (with a good-natured wink 'n a smile ๐Ÿ˜‰ ) :

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    It's best (wiser) when we get our info straight from 'the horse's mouth' ๐Ÿ’ฌ๐Ÿด rather than (getting distorted/ bogus info from) the horse's ๐ŸŒ™๐ŸŒ™.

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    ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿ™ƒ ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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    Let's put a 'final nail in the coffin' of this falsehood once & for all . . . โšฐ๏ธ ๐Ÿ”จ

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    ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ™ƒ ๐Ÿคฃ

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    * For anyone genuinely interested in understanding the actual PP med-reduction process, andyswarbs' experience ( healthunlocked.com/nras/pos... ) is an actual, accurate point of reference (realistic, substantive) from a gentleman who's actually followed the process. ๐Ÿ‘

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    Again, kindly consider ๐Ÿค” who you're hearing ๐Ÿ‘‚ 'experiences' from:

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ Experiences from horses' mouths ๐Ÿ’ฌ๐Ÿด . . ๐Ÿ’ฌ๐Ÿด . . ๐Ÿ’ฌ๐Ÿด . . ('actual' PP-ers who understand or 'lived through'/ 'done' the actual process).

    ๐Ÿ‘‰ Or, 2nd-, 3rd-, or 4th-hand hearsay ๐Ÿ˜ from people who've little to no understanding of ๐Ÿ˜ณ (or experience with) the actual PP process.

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    Kindly take time to consider (reflect on):

    . . . ๐Ÿค” What's accurate & what's inaccurate?

    . . . ๐Ÿค” What's true โœ”๏ธ & what's false โœ–๏ธ ?

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    Only you ๐Ÿ˜Š ๐Ÿ‘ˆ can assess โš–๏ธ for yourself 'what makes sense' by listening ๐Ÿ‘‚ to what's 'actually' said (in context) & rather than what someone else 'claims' was said ('out of context').**

    Use your own ears ๐Ÿ‘‚๐Ÿ‘‚ , eyes ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ , & mind ๐Ÿ™‡โ€โ™€๏ธ โ€” not someone else's "misinterpretation" ๐Ÿ™… , "distortion" ๐Ÿคฅ , "misunderstanding" ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ .

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    ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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    ๐Ÿ™ ๐Ÿ€ ๐ŸŒบ ๐ŸŒž

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    ** Placing Dietary & Lifestyle Approaches 'In Context'/ 'In Perspective': healthunlocked.com/nras/pos...

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