Results are in.. and I'm even more confused.

[welsh_munchkin]

Hello Again,

Following on from my first thread, I now have the results of my Thyroid tests with Medicheck. They are:

THYROID STIMULATING HORMONE 2.51 mIU/L (0.27

- 4.20 )

FREE THYROXINE 15.16 pmol/L _12.00

- 22.00 )

TOTAL THYROXINE(T4) 86.9 nmol/L (59.00

- 154.00)

FREE T3 4.79 pmol/L (3.10

- 6.80 )

REVERSE T3 14 ng

/dL (10.00 - 24.00 )

REVERSE T3 RATIO 22.27 (15.01

- 75.00)

THYROGLOBULIN ANTIBODY 10.760 IU/mL (0.00 - 115.00 )

THYROID PEROXIDASE ANTIBODIES 29.08 IU/mL (0.00

- 34.00)

VITAMIN B12 283.2 pmol/L (140.00 - 724.00)

FOLATE (SERUM) *2.48 ug/L (2.91

- 50.00)

25 OH VITAMIN D *32.87 nmol/L (50.00

- 200.00)

They have said that the Thyroid is all within the normal range. My CRP and ferritin levels are all ok.

But:

"You have low serum folate. I recommend checking your red cell folate to assess whether this is significant.

Your vitamin D levels show that you have vitamin D insufficiency. This may progress to vitamin D deficiency if you don’t take steps to increase your vitamin D levels.

We recommend supplementing with 20-50 mcg (800 -2000 iu) of vitamin D per day for twelve weeks. It is important to test your vitamin D levels regularly - most people in the UK are insufficient or deficient in this vital vitamin. We suggest that you repeat your vitamin D test in 8-12 weeks to ensure that your levels have returned to normal. Once your levels have returned to normal then you can decrease your vitamin D supplementation to 10 mcg (400 iu) per day.

So Amy while your thyroid is looking quite healthy, and that in itself is really good, many of your symptoms may be attributable to the insufficient vitamin D levels. Addressing this and repeating the test in 3 months would be a great place to start."

Can you please share your thoughts. Would VitD cause this much of an issue? My list of symptoms are as long as my arm and all point to Hypothyroid.

Thank you in advance,

Amy

[SlowDragon Administrator]

Yes low vitamin D can make us feel rubbish. So supplementing may yield surprisingly positive results.

Your B12 is quite low, anything under 500 can cause symptoms in some people. But UK range B12 is very wide, especially compared to other countries

B12 works with folate, so as your folate is actually low & out of range you may have more of a B12 issue than it appears

You could pop over to PAS health Unlocked group to post these results ask them about B12 and Pernicious Anaemia

b12deficiency.info/signs-an...

[silverfox7]

Yes your thyroid results are in range but its where in the range that is important and these are too low for FT3 and FT4 and TSH too high to feel well. So the T3 and T4 reading should be over half way. Yours are barely there. Ideally they should be in the top third or even the top quarter of the ranges so you need a dose increase. The total readings you can ignore. It's the free ones that are important.

As to Vitamin D that dose suggested will never make you better. You need a booster dose to get it higher and then a maintenance dose to keep it there. I think the suggestion is to take 10,000iu daily for 4 weeks and then drop down to 5.000 but I'm unsure how long to do that for. If you do a search for Vit D dose and look for seasidesusie then she has some good info and timings. You also. Red to take magnesium and Vit K2 with it. The info about that will also be there.

Vit D, B12, folate and ferritin all help your thyroid to function well.

[welsh_munchkin in reply to silverfox7]

Hi Silverfox7, thanks for you post! I am not diagnosed with a thyroid problem and no medication at the moment!

I am poorly all the time and can't stand it anymore so I paid to have these tests done privately.

As my thyroid tests are within the "normal" range, my doctor won't do anything. I am unsure if they will help with the VitD problem if I take these results to my doctor. I am so confused about what to do!

[humanbean]

VITAMIN B12 283.2 pmol/L (140.00 - 724.00)

FOLATE (SERUM) *2.48 ug/L (2.91 - 50.00)

I think you should show these results to the Pernicious Anaemia Society forum, which is also part of HealthUnlocked - you have to "Follow" the group to join it, then write a new post asking them for help :

healthunlocked.com/pasoc

My personal view, for what it's worth, is that such low B12 and folate will make you feel terrible. Your doctor might give you a prescription for folic acid to raise your folate level, but I think they would conclude that your B12 was fine. Take advice from the PA people.

Low vitamin D3 will make you feel terrible as well. Buy yourself some 5000 iU vitamin D3 capsules - they are easily sourced on Amazon or sites that sell supplements. The best kind are simply capsules, olive oil and vitamin D3.

Take one a day of the capsules for about 4 months and then test your levels again. You can get a finger-prick test done privately from this link :

vitamindtest.org.uk/index.html

You need to get your level up to about 100 nmol/L. Some people go as high as 150 nmol/L. Once you've got your level optimised you should reduce to 2000 iU per day to maintain your level. Testing should be done once or twice a year once you have got your level optimised.

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Taking vitamin D3 raises the amount of calcium the body absorbs from the diet. You want that extra calcium to go into your bones and teeth. The things you need to take to ensure that are vitamin K2 and magnesium.

Some info on magnesium supplements - choose the one that appeals to you most :

naturalnews.com/046401_magn...

metabolics.com/blog/the-def...

globalhealingcenter.com/nat...

For vitamin K2 I will admit I choose the ones on Amazon that have good reviews at a price I'm prepared to pay - in other words it is not scientific!

[welsh_munchkin in reply to humanbean]

Thank you humanbean! I'll have a look at these sites, and do some research. I'm seeing my doctor next week. See where I get with them, then go my own route if need be!

I check out that forum too! 😊

Thank you again!