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Revised Plot of PSA vs Testosterone: Estrogen vs Lupron ADT
Ugh...I made a BIG mistake on the previous posting! I just realized that Dr. Morgentaler had listed the Testosterone level in unusual units (
ng/mL
), not the usual units of (
ng/dL)
. So, my X-axis was off by a factor of 10. Here is the revised plot. The exciting discovery is that the
Ugh...I made a BIG mistake on the previous posting! I just realized that Dr. Morgentaler had listed the Testosterone level in unusual units (
ng/mL
), not the usual units of (
ng/dL)
. So, my X-axis was off by a factor of 10. Here is the revised plot. The exciting discovery is that the
janebob99
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
7 months ago
Morgentaler Saturation Model: PSA vs Testosterone - Estrogen Patch vs Lupron ADT
This is a plot of % reduction in PSA from a Maximum Value versus Testosterone, for two different datasets: Estrogen Patch and Lupron ADT. Both curves (red and green lines) show a linear response starting from (0,0), up to about 200-250 ng/dL. Then, the lines curve over to a lower slope (especially
This is a plot of % reduction in PSA from a Maximum Value versus Testosterone, for two different datasets: Estrogen Patch and Lupron ADT. Both curves (red and green lines) show a linear response starting from (0,0), up to about 200-250 ng/dL. Then, the lines curve over to a lower slope (especially
janebob99
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
7 months ago
booked in for full hysterectomy
I’ve already started hrt and get on really well with the
oestrogel
especially with less adhd symptoms. Any insight would help if feeling quite scared about it atm. Thank you in advance.
I’ve already started hrt and get on really well with the
oestrogel
especially with less adhd symptoms. Any insight would help if feeling quite scared about it atm. Thank you in advance.
AmyPeeps
in
Endometriosis UK
1 year ago
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Mini Pill (Desogestrel 75mg) with Graves Disease
Hello I just wondered if anyone knew if you are able to take the mini pill progesterone only pill with graves, I have been advised I will need to do blood tests every 6 weeks I will check with Doctors on Monday, just from everything I have come across online it only refers to oestrogen affecting hormone
Hello I just wondered if anyone knew if you are able to take the mini pill progesterone only pill with graves, I have been advised I will need to do blood tests every 6 weeks I will check with Doctors on Monday, just from everything I have come across online it only refers to oestrogen affecting hormone
Hidden
in
Thyroid UK
7 months ago
Joint pain
Hi I have a history of back pain due to bulges bit more recently joint pain in lower back. The consultant has said some degeneration found but everyone has that. We are now looking at more spinal injections and further treatment.I am in perimenopause and have been on hrt for 2 years. Everol Patches and
Hi I have a history of back pain due to bulges bit more recently joint pain in lower back. The consultant has said some degeneration found but everyone has that. We are now looking at more spinal injections and further treatment.I am in perimenopause and have been on hrt for 2 years. Everol Patches and
AMS_1
in
Menopause and Perimenopause Support
7 months ago
PSA reduction after Estrogen Patch Therapy
Here's a revised plot of PSA reduction due to castration from Estrogen Patch therapy. The previous version had the wrong time scale. That has been corrected in this version. The total time is 3 months, after which the PSA and testosterone both flatten out versus time. I've also added the reference
Here's a revised plot of PSA reduction due to castration from Estrogen Patch therapy. The previous version had the wrong time scale. That has been corrected in this version. The total time is 3 months, after which the PSA and testosterone both flatten out versus time. I've also added the reference
janebob99
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
7 months ago
PSA reduction by Estrogen Patch (revised)
Here's a revised plot of PSA reduction due to castration from Estrogen Patch therapy. The previous version had the wrong time scale. That has been corrected in this version. The total time is 3 months, after which the PSA and testosterone both flattened out versus time. I've also added the reference
Here's a revised plot of PSA reduction due to castration from Estrogen Patch therapy. The previous version had the wrong time scale. That has been corrected in this version. The total time is 3 months, after which the PSA and testosterone both flattened out versus time. I've also added the reference
janebob99
in
Prostate Cancer Network
7 months ago
Thyroid medication changes when starting HRT for perimenopause
I have been self medicating with liothyronine and levothyroxine for the past two years or so. Today I started the estrogen patch for perimenopause symptoms, and will also start progesterone in a couple of days. The provider that prescribed these said that some women need to increase their thyroid
I have been self medicating with liothyronine and levothyroxine for the past two years or so. Today I started the estrogen patch for perimenopause symptoms, and will also start progesterone in a couple of days. The provider that prescribed these said that some women need to increase their thyroid
TurtlesAllTheWay
in
Thyroid UK
7 months ago
PSA drop with decreasing Testosterone after Estrogen Patch Therapy
Here's a plot that I made from data taken from the PATCH estrogen patch therapy study. It plots the % reduction in PSA from baseline (100%) at time = 0 as a function of testosterone levels over a period of 4 weeks. As you know, estrogen effectively castrates men, causing a drop in testosterone over
Here's a plot that I made from data taken from the PATCH estrogen patch therapy study. It plots the % reduction in PSA from baseline (100%) at time = 0 as a function of testosterone levels over a period of 4 weeks. As you know, estrogen effectively castrates men, causing a drop in testosterone over
janebob99
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
7 months ago
PSA drops with decreasing Testosterone
Here's a plot that I made from data taken from the PATCH estrogen patch therapy study. It plots the % reduction in PSA from baseline (100%) at time = 0 as a function of testosterone levels over a period of 4 weeks. As you know, estrogen effectively castrates men, causing a drop in testosterone over
Here's a plot that I made from data taken from the PATCH estrogen patch therapy study. It plots the % reduction in PSA from baseline (100%) at time = 0 as a function of testosterone levels over a period of 4 weeks. As you know, estrogen effectively castrates men, causing a drop in testosterone over
janebob99
in
Prostate Cancer Network
7 months ago
day 12 FET scan - 12cm dominant follicle
Hi all, hope you’re keeping well. I’ve just had my day 12 scan - I’m on meds prepping for a frozen transfer next week. The oestrogen I’m on is meant to quieten my ovaries. On the scan today, one ovary was quiet, but there was one follicle on the other ovary measuring 12mm. The nurse wants to check with
Hi all, hope you’re keeping well. I’ve just had my day 12 scan - I’m on meds prepping for a frozen transfer next week. The oestrogen I’m on is meant to quieten my ovaries. On the scan today, one ovary was quiet, but there was one follicle on the other ovary measuring 12mm. The nurse wants to check with
MiniCeeCee
in
Fertility Network UK
7 months ago
Gynecomastia from ADT - how much?
Gynecomastia from ADT - how much? I am considering asking my oncologist for transdermal estrogn (TDE) therapy instead of Orgovyx to combat my prostate cancer. Since gynecomastia and breast pain are pretty much the only bad side effects from TDE and less troubling to me than metabolic disturbance,
Gynecomastia from ADT - how much? I am considering asking my oncologist for transdermal estrogn (TDE) therapy instead of Orgovyx to combat my prostate cancer. Since gynecomastia and breast pain are pretty much the only bad side effects from TDE and less troubling to me than metabolic disturbance,
Lost_Sheep
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Prostate Cancer Network
7 months ago
Next Steps
My brother was dDiagnosed in March 2023 with widespread prostate cancer metastasized to the spine, pelvic bones, ribs both left and right, and skull and lymph nodes. No progression to any organs. He had a orchiectomy, is on ABIRATERONE 500MG and has just completed six treatments of Doxetaxel .
My brother was dDiagnosed in March 2023 with widespread prostate cancer metastasized to the spine, pelvic bones, ribs both left and right, and skull and lymph nodes. No progression to any organs. He had a orchiectomy, is on ABIRATERONE 500MG and has just completed six treatments of Doxetaxel .
Sparlingo
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
7 months ago
Severe scarring found in hysteroscopy after d&c- any tips on recovery?
Hi everyone, I had a hysteroscopy at the weekend and despite being told it’s unlikely the doctor found severe scarring in the womb entrance and inside my womb. He said it would have been a result of the d&c I had this time last year after a MMC 😢 So for the last year trying for a sibling I’ve
Hi everyone, I had a hysteroscopy at the weekend and despite being told it’s unlikely the doctor found severe scarring in the womb entrance and inside my womb. He said it would have been a result of the d&c I had this time last year after a MMC 😢 So for the last year trying for a sibling I’ve
Daisy-Delilah
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Fertility Network UK
7 months ago
Early Results from Transdermal Estrogen PATCH trial - 2
Here's some charts comparing Lupron ADT to transdermal estrogen (TDE) therapy for High Risk and Very High Risk men with prostate cancer. The upper chart shows the percentage of men that have been castrated to a testosterone level < 50 ng/dL after 1 month of treatment. For Lupron, only 65% of HR/VHR
Here's some charts comparing Lupron ADT to transdermal estrogen (TDE) therapy for High Risk and Very High Risk men with prostate cancer. The upper chart shows the percentage of men that have been castrated to a testosterone level < 50 ng/dL after 1 month of treatment. For Lupron, only 65% of HR/VHR
janebob99
in
Prostate Cancer Network
7 months ago
Early Results from Transdermal Estrogen PATCH trial - 2
Here's some charts comparing Lupron ADT to transdermal estrogen (TDE) patch therapy for High Risk and Very High Risk men with prostate cancer. The upper chart shows the percentage of men that have been castrated to a testosterone level < 50 ng/dL after 1 month of treatment. For Lupron, 65% of HR/
Here's some charts comparing Lupron ADT to transdermal estrogen (TDE) patch therapy for High Risk and Very High Risk men with prostate cancer. The upper chart shows the percentage of men that have been castrated to a testosterone level < 50 ng/dL after 1 month of treatment. For Lupron, 65% of HR/
janebob99
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
7 months ago
Early Results from Transdermal Estrogen PATCH trial
Here are some Early Results from the first year of the Transdermal Estrogen PATCH trial. References are available on their website at: http://patch.mrcctu.ucl.ac.uk. The cohort was men with High or Very High Risk prostate cancer. Stage T3 (73%) and Stage T4 (14%), baseline PSA = 35 ng/mL. The upper
Here are some Early Results from the first year of the Transdermal Estrogen PATCH trial. References are available on their website at: http://patch.mrcctu.ucl.ac.uk. The cohort was men with High or Very High Risk prostate cancer. Stage T3 (73%) and Stage T4 (14%), baseline PSA = 35 ng/mL. The upper
janebob99
in
Advanced Prostate Cancer
7 months ago
Early Results of Estrogen PATCH trial - 1
Here are some Early Results from the first year of the Transdermal Estrogen PATCH trial. References are available on their website at: http://patch.mrcctu.ucl.ac.uk. The cohort was men with High or Very High Risk prostate cancer. Stage T3 (73%) and Stage T4 (14%), baseline PSA = 35 ng/mL. The upper
Here are some Early Results from the first year of the Transdermal Estrogen PATCH trial. References are available on their website at: http://patch.mrcctu.ucl.ac.uk. The cohort was men with High or Very High Risk prostate cancer. Stage T3 (73%) and Stage T4 (14%), baseline PSA = 35 ng/mL. The upper
janebob99
in
Prostate Cancer Network
7 months ago
Results
Hi everyone I posted a couple of weeks ago and was advised to have bloods done. These are my results so hoping for further advice in supplementing or adjusting doseage. I currently take 50mcg Levothyroxine and 25mcg T3 daily. I also have B12 injections every 12wks. Latest B12 injection given day after
Hi everyone I posted a couple of weeks ago and was advised to have bloods done. These are my results so hoping for further advice in supplementing or adjusting doseage. I currently take 50mcg Levothyroxine and 25mcg T3 daily. I also have B12 injections every 12wks. Latest B12 injection given day after
Pixie50
in
Thyroid UK
7 months ago
Estrogen ADT vs Lupron ADT
Here's a chart showing % of men who have a given condition, comparing Estrogen ADT versus Lupron ADT. There's big reduction in hot flashes, and improvements in libido, when taking supplemental Estrogen. Estrogen increases gynecomastia (enlarged breasts), however. Bob
Here's a chart showing % of men who have a given condition, comparing Estrogen ADT versus Lupron ADT. There's big reduction in hot flashes, and improvements in libido, when taking supplemental Estrogen. Estrogen increases gynecomastia (enlarged breasts), however. Bob
janebob99
in
Prostate Cancer Network
7 months ago
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