Okay, I realize most hypo or hyper thyroid patients take hormone pills, T4 or T3, NDT or combo’s of these. But, I also realize that vitamin supplementation is needed and, in fact some thyroid problems are, ostensibly performed by osteopaths that many claim have helped them considerably & a combination of these practices helps some people. I do not favor using multi-vitamins myself, but would like your opinion(s) on single vitamin supplements for better “control” of our disease and better chances of becoming Euthyroid sooner than later. And so, I am asking, once again, for your knowledge and insight from your personal experiences as to which pills you do take or would or wouldn’t take. Hopefully you will have personal experience dosing both T4 & T3 a combo of either, or NDT, as well as these vitamin supplements. I know more than one thyroid patient, myself included, who has tried just about everything and is (very) tired of being sick and tired and at the end of their rope with head-aches and brain fog to boot.
I already supplement 200 mcg’s of selenium & 100 MG’s of Chlorophyll, which, I realize is not a lot but I always try to get enough vitamins from the food I eat and the liquid I drink. Can anyone add to this list, including the amounts, for instance the chlorophyll I take is one tablespoon per dose (or100 MG’s) I try to dose only a value high enough to make a difference but low enough not to damage any organs, muscles, bones, etc and definitely do not want to take any vitamins that may react or interact noticeably with the hormone pills I take. I personally know people who have thyroid hormone prescrip-tions that they believe will have damage done to by adding vitamin supplementations, as well as the re-verse, & some who even refuse to supplement vits for fear of “taking too many?” Most of those I know, including my wife, just dose vit C, vit B12, selenium, fish oil, Calcium & Glucosamine chondroitin (bone health). I know folic acid addresses fetal health & is in one of the B’s and also that I eat a lot of chicken, including the eggs and this addresses most B vit’s but I would be open to seeing anything that helps our health without being a danger (to the hormones we take or the lives we (try to) lead. I’m also looking for the vitamins that help in this battle. I know many supplements are for sale including thyroid supplements and some that specifically state they are for the thyroid and will easily adapt with any thyroid pill you take but am suspicious on anything like that. Anybody feel better on or off supplements?
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For thyroid I check my thyroid and vitamin / mineral levels with a home fingerptick test from Medichecks then depend8ng on what they are adjust what I’m taking.
I take more or less what your wife takes - 1000 mcg Vit C + zinc, 1000-300 D3, 300 mcg calcium Citrate, 100 mcg vitamin K2 Mk7 Natto , 56.5 mg magnesium citrate which also has 1.40 B6 in it and 250mcg , omega 3 Algae oil DHA
Most of what I take these days is for my bones - the D3, K2 to direct the D3 to my bones, just a little calcium because the calcium carbonate I was prescribed made me feel ill - citrate is gentler and I get the rest from diet, the Algae oil I discovered makes a huge difference to my very, very dry eyes, again I take it for my bones but that has been an unexpected good side effect.
I would never take a multivitamin - lots of reasons - not enough of anything plus things that you don’t need, usually the wrong type of B12 - you want methyl cobalamin rather than what’s usually in multis. I no longer take any thyroid pills - in remission from Graves - but I took most of that lot when I was ill.
Like I say, I’d test first to see what you really need and try to eat a healthy diet as well as any supplements. Cut out sugar, junk foods and fizzy drinks.
It's very hard to determine what foods (w)could replace supplements and vice-versa. I just wish I could find a doctor who really gives a damn, very hard, esp. in the U.S where most doctors concentrate on (making) money and use up very little of their (money-making) time to so much as speak to their patients. Of course, yjre junk food is the hardest to overcome and is also the worst to eat and can ruin your whole life altogether, esp. if you're allergic to one or more products, esp the ones that hide their sugars that have so many different words to camelflogue the sugar. Peace be upon us all in these crazy times.
Recommended you test Vit D, B12, folate and ferritin and supplement them individually till all are optimum. That made such a huge difference to me. Times to get them up can differ though! Vit D was pretty quick though folate took me nearly a year of taking methyl folate to get optimal. My GP does the testing for me and I take care of the treating.
I had iron deficency anemia and mononucleosis when I was in my teens and early 20's and know what you mean; it can follow you for life. That and cortisol can make your life very miserable. I just hope I can straighten out my conversion problems by takin the right iodine supplementaion and then start on any others I can find. Peace to you in these pandemic times.
I would never take calcium for bone health unless testing showed that I was suffering from a deficiency. You might find this video of interest - it is mostly on the subject of calcium, despite the title :
Taking that much calcium is insane but many do thinking, or not (thinking), that it helps their over, as well as, bone health. I always wondered why? Peace be upon you in these times.
I recently read that taking supplements when you don’t have a deficiency can make your body lazy as it will stop bothering to extract those things from food as there’s an easy supply in the supplement.So I suppose you need to follow up every little symptom as a signal to test for a deficiency .
No, I usually always try to replace supplements with the equal in food but can't always match it, especially when considering how much exercise you plan to engage in that day. You don't need to follow any symptom if you don't want to, as their is no "one size fits all" regimen for even any two people as every single person is different. And the "easy supply" takes up your time and may even be the wrong supplement for you personally. I believe you misread something or are just plain mistaken. I am not big at all on supplements but when it becomes too obvious to ignore, like the fact that everyone needs iodine I can no longer ignore it and everyone, unless allergic to it, needs iodine, sick as well as healthy human beings. I actually mean well when I post something and am actually looking for any "health knowledge" some one may have that I don't.
Same for me - looking for further knowledge. I wasn’t suggesting supplements are not vital when there’s a deficiency. I don’t know if there is a downside to supplementing with things your body may not need, but I would like more knowledge as I am considering supplementing on a few things I know Ive tested low-ish for.
Well, it's my uderstanding, which isn't always right, that the only supplementing one should do is single-supplementing, in other no multi-vitamins. I know it's harder that way, more time spent but that's the way I do it because usually, I believe I can replace most vit's. with food. Peace be upon you in these crazy times, brother and may you find your answers quickly.
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