Please could someone give advice on blood results

[Hello777]

Dear all,

I hope you are well.

Can anyone give advice on my blood results below.

One is from Feb and the other end of May.

Been in 50mcg of Teva levothyroxine since January.

Private doctor has advised to go up to 75mcg last week.

Since then I feel worse. Hot, headaches, insomnia, extremely hoarse voice, no libido, tiredness. I had these symptoms before too but now they seem to be exacerbated.

The brands are 50mcg Mercury pharma and 25mcg wockdhart.

lutein Health leads

Milk thistle health leads

Ginkgo leaf Health leads

Vitamin d3 5000iu solgar

Adrenal health daily support Gaia herbs

Slipper elm Nature’s answer

Balanced iron complex Viridian

Turmeric plus health leads

Acidophilus extra 10 lamberts

Co q10 100mg jarrow

Vitamin c health leads

Feb 2020 results

Inflammation

CRP HS

0.54 mg/L(Range:<5)

Iron Status

Ferritin

64.7 ug/L(Range:30-400)

Vitamins

Folate-Serum

7.13 ug/L(Range:>3.89)

Vitamin B12-Active

115.000 pmol/L(Range:>37.5)

Vitamin D

132 nmol/L

Deficient<30

Insufficient 30-50Consider reducing dose>175

（Range:50-175)

Thyroid Hormones

TSH

1.35 mlU/L(Range:0.27-4.2)

Free T3

5.14 pmol/L(Range:3.1-6.8)

Free Thyroxine

16.900 pmol/L(Range:12-22)

Autoimmunity

Thyroglobulin Antibodies

。20.700 kIU/L(Range:<115)

Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies

14.9 klU/L(Range:<34)

May 2020 Results

Inflammation

CRP HS

0.26 mg/L(Range:<5)

lron Status

Ferritin

69.8 ug/L(Range:30-400)

Vitamins

Folate-Serum

14.78 ug/L(Range:>3.89)

Vitamin B12-Active

103.000 pmol/L(Range:>37.5)

Vitamin D

118 nmol/L

Deficient<30

Insufficient 30-50Consider reducing dose>175

（Range:50-175)

Thyroid Hormones

TSH

0.683 mlU/L(Range:0.27-4.2)

Free T3

3.93 pmol/L(Range:3.1-6.8)

Free Thyroxine

16.600 pmol/L(Range:12-22)

Autoimmunity

Thyroglobulin Antibodies

10.900 klIU/L(Range:<115)

Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies

＜9.0 klU/L(Range:<34)

[SlowDragon Administrator]

The May test results confirms you needed dose increase

Perhaps Wockhart levothyroxine doesn’t agree with you

Presumably you were only on Mercury Pharma before?

You could take just Mercury Pharma....Just cut a 50mcg in half to add to the 50mcg each day

Often feel worse after dose increase

It takes at least 6 weeks for each dose to have full effect

[tattybogle]

When i changed from Teva to Mercury (on the same dose), the mercury seemed 'faster' to me. If you get different brand at same time as an increase , it makes it hard to tell what's what.

[greygoose]

Adrenal health daily support Gaia herbs

I find that rather worrying. Why are you taking that? Have you had your cortisol/DHEA tested? Was your cortisol high or low?

What is actually in this 'support'?

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to greygoose]

Holy Basil (100 mg), Rhodiola rosea PE (200 mg), Ashwagandha Root (100 mg), Schizandra Berry (100 mg), Oats, Wild Milky Seed (Fresh) (100 mg), withanolide glycosides (8 mg), Rosavins (6 mg), salidrosides (1.6 mg)

Hello777 That supplement contains adaptogenic herbs and the Holy Basic, Rhodiola and Ashwagandha all have been known to lower cortisol levels. You really should get your cortisol/DHEA levels checked with a 24 hour saliva adrenal test if you started taking that supplement without prior testing which showed high cortisol levels. If you did test before and had high cortisol levels, then you should be regularly monitoring your levels whilst taking this supplement.

[greygoose in reply to SeasideSusie]

Yes, that's what I thought, but there seem to be several different Gaia support products. I just wondered which one the OP was taking. Sounds pretty awful to me. Holy Basil is definitely going to lower cortisol so seems out of place in an adrenal 'support' supplement.

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to greygoose]

I found three, Adrenal Health Daily Support, Adrenal Health Nightly Restore and Adrenal Health Jump Start, so assumed it was the right one.

[Hello777 in reply to SeasideSusie]

It’s the adrenal health daily support

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Hello777]

Yes I know, I guessed you were giving the name of the supplement and that's what I have commented on and given the ingredients for above.

[Hello777 in reply to SeasideSusie]

I should stop taking this then?

[cc120 in reply to Hello777]

greygoose

greygoosein reply to Hello777

17 days ago

Sorry I didn't reply, but as you didn't click on the blue 'Reply' button, I didn't know you'd replied to me.

Who told you to take it? Never take that sort of advice from doctors, they have no idea what they're talking about. It's not part of their training.

I wouldn't take it if I were you. It's hardly likely to combat fatigue, and might do some harm.

Just having a low TSH does not make you hyper - besides, you're hypo, so you can't suddenly go hyper. Are these the results you're referring to?

TSH

1.35 mlU/L(Range:0.27-4.2)

Free T3

5.14 pmol/L(Range:3.1-6.8)

Free Thyroxine

16.900 pmol/L(Range:12-22)

Your TSH is not low. If anything, it's slightly too high. Your FT3 is just over mid-range, and your FT4 is just under mid-range. If you were hyper, they'd be ten times that, and your TSH would be suppressed. No, you're not hyper. You need an increase in dose.

[greygoose in reply to Hello777]

I have never yet seen a product that describes itself as 'support' that I would be willing to take myself. The are cashing in on people's insecurities and desire to do the best they can for their health, without really knowing what they should be doing. And, the ingredients of these products all appear to be based on scanty knowledge and bad science. They always seem to me to run the risk of doing more harm than good.

Adaptogens are said to regulate hormone production by raising low levels and reducing high levels. And yet, they've added to the adaptogens a herb that is known to reduce cortisol. So, how is that supposed to help or support the adrenals?

Adaptogens are unreliable, you never know which way they're going to go - the might raise when the should reduce and reduce when they should be raising. Proof positive that if a thing sounds too good to be true, then it probably is!

Also, the problem with these multi-type things is that if something disagrees with you, you won't know which one it is. And, at least one adaptogen is likely to disagree with most people. Seems to me that the manufacturers have just bunged in everything they can think of, in the hope that something might work! I would never recommend anyone take a so-called 'support' product, but try the individual ingredients, one by one, to see if any of them actual do do any good. And if none of them do, the whole thing is a waste of money, anyway.

[cc120 in reply to greygoose]

Hello777

Hello777

25 days ago

Hi grey goose I was told to take this to combat my fatigue...

Maybe I should stop?

I’m really in despair at the moment

I’m losing my voice it’s never been hoarse. Also my vision is blurry and my ears are painful.

Any help appreciated

Thankyou

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Hello777

Hello777

20 days ago

Hello all, do these results mean im Hyperthyroid?

My TSH is very low.

Im on 75mcg.

Will a dosage increase improve my TSH levels?

Many thanks

[Hello777]

Hi grey goose I was told to take this to combat my fatigue...

Maybe I should stop?

I’m really in despair at the moment

I’m losing my voice it’s never been hoarse. Also my vision is blurry and my ears are painful.

Any help appreciated

Thankyou

[greygoose in reply to Hello777]

Sorry I didn't reply, but as you didn't click on the blue 'Reply' button, I didn't know you'd replied to me.

Who told you to take it? Never take that sort of advice from doctors, they have no idea what they're talking about. It's not part of their training.

I wouldn't take it if I were you. It's hardly likely to combat fatigue, and might do some harm.

Just having a low TSH does not make you hyper - besides, you're hypo, so you can't suddenly go hyper. Are these the results you're referring to?

TSH

1.35 mlU/L(Range:0.27-4.2)

Free T3

5.14 pmol/L(Range:3.1-6.8)

Free Thyroxine

16.900 pmol/L(Range:12-22)

Your TSH is not low. If anything, it's slightly too high. Your FT3 is just over mid-range, and your FT4 is just under mid-range. If you were hyper, they'd be ten times that, and your TSH would be suppressed. No, you're not hyper. You need an increase in dose.

[Hello777]

Hello all, do these results mean im Hyperthyroid?

My TSH is very low.

Im on 75mcg.

Will a dosage increase improve my TSH levels?

Many thanks

[Hello777 in reply to Hello777]

Dear all my latest blood results are shown below. Currently on 50mcg levo and 10mcg t3.

Private doctor says my t3 dose will remain the same and he is increasing my levo to 75mcg.

Is this right?

I’m thinking of self treating as I’m losing faith in him.

[Hello777]

TSH

0.27 - 4.2 R

0.338

mIU/L

FREE T3

3.1 - 6.8 R

4.07

pmol/L

FREE THYROXINE

12 - 22 R

12.5

[Hello777]

anyone please?