Hi as per first post I am trying to find out why I have heavy periods. Back in 2004 I had one so bad I had to take the day off work due to disabling cramps and clotty cycle. I have underactive thyroid but my results are not deemed severe enough to be causing this problem. Diagnosed 2008 with hypothyroidism, taking 100mcg levothyroxine and 10mcg T3 from 50mcg levothyroxine and 5mcg T3), 2011 with iron deficiency, folate deficiency diagnosed 2015, B12 was low according to my research and vitamin D deficiency in 2013, your thoughts please.
(50mcg levothyroxine and 5mcg T3)
Thyroid stimulating hormone 4.98 (0.27 - 4.20)
Free T4 14.6 (12.00 - 22.00)
Free T3 3.8 (3.1 - 6.8)
Thyroid peroxidase antibodies 507.5 (<34)
Thyroglobulin antibodies 366.3 (<115)
Ferritin 34 (30 - 400)
Iron 8 (6 - 26)
Transferrin saturation 14 (12 - 45)
Red blood cell count 4.41 (3.80 - 5.80)
White cell count 4.10 (4.00 - 11.00)
MCV 83 (83 - 98)
MCHC 365 (310 - 350)
MCH 28.1 (28 - 32)
Haemoglobin 120 (115 - 150)
Haematocrit 0.41 (0.37 - 0.47)
Platelets 245 (140 - 400)
Folate >20 (2.5 - 19.5) I take folic acid 5mg once a day
Vitamin B12 unknown as I had my second B12 injection done last month
Vitamin D total 60.3 (50 - 75 suboptimal. Advise on safe sun exposure and diet) I take 6000iu (2x 3000iu D3 oral spray by Better You with K2-MK7) since September 2017
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Your TSH is over range and GP should increase Levothyroxine dose by 25mcg
Retesting after 6-8 weeks
Your antibodies are high this is Hashimoto's, (also known by medics here in UK more commonly as autoimmune thyroid disease).
About 90% of all hypothyroidism in Uk is due to Hashimoto's
Hashimoto's affects the gut and leads to low stomach acid and then low vitamin levels
Low vitamin levels affect Thyroid hormone working
Your ferritin and iron are dire. Hashimoto's is causing heavy periods and also poor absorption of vitamins so your body can't keep pace with demand for iron
GP should prescribe iron supplements. Have you started of these?
Please add exactly what is prescribed
Can you add results and ranges for vitamin D, folate and B12 and say what you are taking
Poor gut function can lead leaky gut (literally holes in gut wall) this can cause food intolerances. Most common by far is gluten
According to Izabella Wentz the Thyroid Pharmacist approx 5% with Hashimoto's are coeliac, but over 80% find gluten free diet helps significantly. Either due to direct gluten intolerance (no test available) or due to leaky gut and gluten causing molecular mimicry (see Amy Myers link)
But don't be surprised that GP or endo never mention gut, gluten or low vitamins. Hashimoto's is very poorly understood
Changing to a strictly gluten free diet may help reduce symptoms, help gut heal and slowly lower TPO antibodies
ask GP for coeliac blood test first as well as vitamin D, folate and B12
Dr Toft, past president of the British Thyroid Association and leading endocrinologist, states in Pulse Magazine,
"The appropriate dose of levothyroxine is that which restores euthyroidism and serum TSH to the lower part of the reference range - 0.2-0.5mU/l.
In this case, free thyroxine is likely to be in the upper part of its reference range or even slightly elevated – 18-22pmol/l.
Most patients will feel well in that circumstance. But some need a higher dose of levothyroxine to suppress serum TSH and then the serum-free T4 concentration will be elevated at around 24-28pmol/l.
This 'exogenous subclinical hyperthyroidism' is not dangerous as long as serum T3 is unequivocally normal – that is, serum total around T3 1.7nmol/l (reference range 1.0-2.2nmol/l)."
You can obtain a copy of the articles from Thyroid UK email print it and highlight question 6 to show your doctor please email Dionne at
tukadmin@thyroiduk.org
Also request the list of recommended thyroid specialists, some are T3 friendly
Professor Toft recent article saying, T3 may be necessary for many
Hi thanks for reply. These results were when I was on 50mcg levothyroxine and 5mcg T3. I intend to go back to GP soon and ask to be prescribed more T3.
I have not started off on iron supplements as they taste disgusting and make my stomach feel heavy.
Try Floridex, a Liquid iron supplement from health shops,this product is made of al natural ingredients and is easily tolerated by pretty much every body, also because most of the ingredients are from fruits and herbs here is no worry of the constipation which usually occurs from other iron supplements, particularly those prescribed by doctors, I have had numerous family members with a low iron count who all felt awful on gp prescibed iron supplement and found the just couldn’t continue with them, after I recommend floredix they all found it pallitable and easy on the system with non of awful side effects and all found the iron levels quickly reached optimum range...hope this helps and your health improves..,good luck.
Iron deficiency causes heavy periods but your results don't indicate iron deficiency although ferritin and iron are low in range. Do you supplement iron?
You were undermedicated on 50mcg T4 and 5mcg T3. How long have you been taking 100mcg T4 and 10mcg T3?
Folate is no longer deficient and is, in fact, over range. You can stop taking 5mg folic acid.
Hi, vit D tested December. I have been advised to continue taking the folic acid since my folate drops a lot. I have recurring iron deficiency and my iron was stopped Maty 2017. I have just started 100mcg levo and 10mcg T3
I'd take 2 daily for a couple of months to raise iron and ferritin then reduce to 1 a day. Taking each tablet with 1,000mg vitamin C will aid absorption and minimise constipation.
please let me know how many mg to take, rather than "one tablet". I started supplementing three months ago, but i have not seen an improvement. I'm taking 50mg of iron biglycinate at the moment.
I was responding specifically to Amb6. If you want advice on how much iron to take please write a post and include your ferritin, iron and red blood count results and ranges.
Fibroids cause heavy periods and clotting. I had fibroids (and anaemia) for years but didn't know I also had autoimmune thyroiditis. There's a link between oestrogen/progesterone levels and the thyroid. You could ask your GP for a referral for an ultrasound.
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