ED supplements (Arginine, Phenylalanine... - Men's Health Forum

Men's Health Forum

34,330 members4,559 posts

ED supplements (Arginine, Phenylalanine, Macca, Carnitine), lack of sensitivity...

aguyfromeurope profile image
1 Reply

Hi, I apologize for my imperfect english.

After reading online about natural ED remedies and dopamine, nitric oxide and testosterone boosters, I bought: L-Arginine, DL-Phenylalanine, Macca and L-Carnitine by Nature Essential (spanish brand). I do not plan to relly on these supplements alone, I would surely take viagra or cialis in case of sex. I bought them to improve my erection quality, the sensation, libido and my energy.

I began taking the suplements yesterday and it is way too early to expect improvements. But the problem is that I feel some worsening!

I ussualy have morning erections, but not today. I tried to touch myself to see how it feels and there was a lack of sensation and I couldn't reach erection or orgasm.

Since I took 4 different supplements, can there be a "conflict" between them?

Or maybe the "culprit" for this lack of erection and sensation is just one of the supplements? Now I'm trying to isolate the culprit. I'm not an expert, but since DL-Phenylalanine is (among other things) advertised for pain relief, maybe that's the problem?

Also, these supplements are advertised as giving more energy, motivation and as sort of anti-depressants, but I don't feel an improved mood. I feel kinda "numb". Like, not much interested in anything, just neutral. I can just sit all day not doing anything.

I'm thinking about putting aside phenylalanine and see what happens, but this is all experimenting, I feel like a guinea pig. I need a more informed opinion. Maybe the "culprit" is another supplement.

Note: I took Phenylalanine on empty stomach (as it was specified on the box) before breakfast. The rest of the pills I took after eating. Not all pills at one swallow, but one by one. I take Phenylalanine and Arginine once per day and Macca and Carnitine 3 per day, one with each meal.

I also want to buy Pycnogenol, but I cannot find it in the pharmacies near me. At least not in it's clean form, but only as a part of a multi-antioxidant. I don't know how much % of pycnogenol that product contains and is it worth it. The producer is AquaSource (UK, I think).

Background: I suffer from ED for years, so it's not because of my age (late 30s). I had problems even in my late teens and 20s when i had my first sex experiences.

I talked to some friends (doctors), I explained them that I have morning erections and I can make myself excited, so they thought that this is psychological (I always have some stress in life). But I have never checked myself properly is the cause for my ED physical or psychological. Or maybe a bit of both. I have morning erections (but not regulary) and I can achieve an erection when masturbating. The problem is how to keep it.

At some point in life I discovered viagra and it helped me (50 mg). Once I tried 100 mg, but I felt a bit bad, dizzy etc.. Anyway, it helped me. Later I discovered cialis (the max. dose of 20mg), which worked well with no problems. I preffer cialis, cause it has long effect, so if I'm on a date with a girl, I'm not in a hurry to get her to bed while the pill is working, as it is with viagra. I have never tried levitra.

But recently, I had sex on cialis with two different woman (not at the same time) and in both cases I couldn't feel sensation. Note that this was before I began taking any supplements. I bought the supplements to solve this problem.

It felt like their vaginas were "loose", "wide" and very lubricated, so I couldn't feel anything (except at the beginning). Due to the lack of sensation, I would become soft and I would slip out of them. Even a blowjob without a condom didn't make me very excited. In both cases cialis couldn't help. I have a problem maintaining an erection without constant stimulation. And it seems that I lost sensitivity.

Note that I had a good and constant sexual life only when I was in a long relationship, but after we broke up, I got sex only occassionaly (like one-night stands here and there). Some people say that you can develop a "resistance" to viagra or cialis. I don't think that my body developed such a "resistance", cause I wasn't taking these medications so often. There were no oportunities for sex so often.

I've read about porn induced ed (PIED), so I stopped watching porn half a year ago. And even mild erotica, women in bikinis and such things. I don't know if the PIED theory is proven, but better safe than sorry. I guess that I have to rewire myself to get excited by real women, not by pixels. In the past, sometimes I had to watch porn when having sex to get truly excited, to get that "dopamine rush" (as some websites are explaining it).

Now I do masturbate, but without porn, just fantasies about real women. When I see a hot woman on the street or in a shop, I'm trying to concentrate on her, but I can't get a spontaneous erection without touching myself. Of course, that would be inappropriate in public ;)

I also can't get a spontaneous erection when just kissing with women like it once was. When we kiss or dance, they get close to me with their bodies to feel my erection, but nothing happens. It's so embarasing. We must go to a private place first and then they must give me a b-job or a h-job, so I can become hard. Then, I must put on a condom very quickly and get inside them, cause I may loose the hardness.

I don't have a serious illness, I don't take any harsh medicines, I don't drink alcohol for a very long time (not even a beer), I do not take any drugs (even soft ones), but I just smoke normal cigarrettes with coffee. I try to eat well, I avoid fast food and I always have soups, vegetable salads, fruits etc. Also I'm walking in nature on fresh air. Note that I'm not a vegetarian and I've read that phenylalanine should not be taken with proteins, I don't know if there's a connection here.

During a certain period I tried to give up smoking, to work out (fitness), to improve my diet, avoid fried stuff etc. but it didn't have a significant impact on my sex life. Actually, in the past, when I would have a glass or two of red wine and some cigarettes, I felt more relaxed and sex seemed to be a bit better. There're people around me who go to clubs until early in the morning, they drink a lot, they take recreational drugs, they live unhealthy lives, but they have good sex. I don't get it.

I was also thinking about trying out that Muse / alprostadil urethral suppository, but can't find it in shops near me, i'm embarased to order it and finally, if sex happens, when will i have a time to put it into me (like saying to the partner: excuse me, i'm going to the bathroom and then putting it in and waiting for the effect). it's seems to me that it is impractical, I don't know.

Thanks for your opinions and advices.

Written by
aguyfromeurope profile image
aguyfromeurope
To view profiles and participate in discussions please or .
Read more about...
1 Reply
jimpollard profile image
jimpollardPartner

menshealthforum.org.uk/erec...

You may also like...

Advice appreciated - Erection troubles

now I'm single and dating I've come across a few issues. Firstly, I can get an erection no problem,...

Tamsulosin side effects

I have been on Tamsulosin for 5/6 weeks to treat urinary problems associated with an enlarged...

Problem maintaining erection

lose my erection, this can happen a couple of times then I just lose interest. I have tried viagra...

Excess skin under my penis after circumcision—to remove or not?

I was thinking of have my penis re-circumcised due to the excess skin I'm having just underneath the

Problems keeping an erection

and I have recently started trying to have a kid, but I have gone soft the past 2 time we have...