i need to talk to someone Asap ! before i over react right now.

[Johnnie1234]

Soo i went outside to pick up my brother i come up the stairs my heart was racing of course to the point im just dizzy now im laying down still feeling dizzy i feel like me going up the stairs fast it caused me to be nervous and heart racing super fast my head feels like it spining and dizzy even while laying down i get up from bed to see if it just me but i still feel it ? what should i do

[Cforte]

Have you had this before? Have you been diagnosed with panic attacks? If not, I'd say get to a hospital or call your doctor. Though depending on what country you live in and what kind of insurance you have, going to the ER could be expensive. .but maybe worth it.

[Johnnie1234 in reply to Cforte]

i have seen docter cardiologist said im

fine but i dont know understand they always say im

fine i dont get it i cant even write good now

[Cforte in reply to Johnnie1234]

That's how I feel sometimes. I know it's hard, but try to do something to distract your mind from your problems. If it is a panic attack, then dwelling on it makes it worse, and if it is just an attack, it should end soon, sometimes as little as ten minutes, though some people have them go on for an hour. It also depends on what medication or medicine you are taking if any, and any caffeine or other stimulant you may have had today.

[Johnnie1234 in reply to Cforte]

yeah i need this to be gone already you dont understand man how i feel this is not me i was never like this i want to do stuff with my life and i just cant this problem just blocking my life mean while im only 21 all this started about a year or two after bad exprience with weed dont know if it messed up my nerves but im still the exact way and no im not taking medication so i know its not about meds its just my body doing it by its self out of control i get these crazy muscle teiches different parts of my body its just crazy and tiering i dont know what im going to end up life espically still going through this problem everday ! ugh

[Cforte in reply to Johnnie1234]

And your doctor knows all this but still hasn't prescribed a treatment plan like medication and/or psychotherapy?

[Johnnie1234 in reply to Cforte]

yeah he does they sent me to phystrist and psychotherapy but i stop going they gave me meds i never took it ama be honest because im afraid of taking meds and afraid of the side effects and sont want to feel high or anything makes me over react and i dont know if meds would help i try to do it myself with out meds but i dont know seems so hard to do so.

[Vbee in reply to Johnnie1234]

When will you get it through your head that meds will make you feel 100% better than anxiety does? You have been on this forum for one year year and all you have done is complain about how terrible you feel. So many kind people on this forum have WASTED their time trying to help you. It's like constantly complaining that you are so thirsty, being offered water and then saying oh but no I won't drink anything. And stop questioning the cardiologist. Yes they are way more qualified than you. Honestly, why do ask questions on this forum? You don'tlisten to the answers. If you're truly physically sick then go to the hospital and do not leave until they Make You better. Oh wait, that might mean believing an expert and taking some action to make yourself better. How can anyone help you johnny? You are not doing ONE THING to help yourself.

[Ronig1234 in reply to Vbee]

Wow -that’s harsh -as a long time sufferer-it took a long time to realize it was anxiety and not something else . I still backslide and start questioning things and I have had this horrible affliction for years ! And guess what-As part of my affliction I have become afraid of medication as well ! so it’s been a very difficult road for me-I will only take something during a panic attack that I know has not affected me weird in the past-when daily med for prevention would be best. I can go years feeling fine but in a flare up I still can’t grasp the fact that it’s my mind.

I sympathize with him And if you can’t say something nice why say it at all 🙄

[Johnnie1234 in reply to Ronig1234]

right why say it at all dude is ceazy writing me like he knows what i go through !!

[Vbee in reply to Ronig1234]

Cool. Sorry you think it's harsh. But if you took the time to read ALL of his posts and all of the incredibly kind responses he has received you may get and idea of my frustrations of seeing a person in pain and absolute despair not doing anything that has been suggested. In addition I have offered countless suggestions for the past 12 months that have always been kind and positive. I don't come on here to bag someone, I come on here to offer a direction and perhaps a change in tone may open his eyes to see that there is so much help out there. I have told him the title to many books that I KNOW will HELP.him (they have helped me and others), I have suggested that taking the medication for a shorttime will make him feel.better and calmer, I have reassured him that the cardiologist have studied for years and are very very thorough, I have told him that everything he is feeling is perfectly "normal" in the anxiety world and by constantly fearing the sensations he is perpetuating them - like pouring fuel on a fire expecting it to act like afire retardent. If you construe my post/reply as harsh then that is your perception. My intention is tough love.

Jeff,agora, veebee and hear You have been amazing advocates on this forum so I have decided to remove myself from the forum from today and let them continue the good work!!

May you achieve recovery from this destructive affliction - it is possible. Read all.of Jeff 1234 posts. HE is the man!! He will cure and solve everybody one here IF they will listen and take action.

Goodbye

[Ronig1234 in reply to Vbee]

Bye

[Johnnie1234 in reply to Vbee]

first of all if you feel away then dont write anything here because this is to talk to with people to not stress a person out even more you sound like you have nun else better to do but just talk like you know it all and rude for no reason so before you write me check yourself .

[Vbee in reply to Johnnie1234]

Actually I have alot better things to do. My intention was a but of "tough love" Johnny. I knwo EXACTLY what you are going through. I know the physical sensations and the scary feelings that accompany the wild and crazy thoughts. Why? Because j have an anxiety condition, same as you. Unlike you I got better. How? First I went to my doctor and got my body and heart checked out and believed that he knew what he was talking about and that I had anxiety (not some weird heart issue that no one had heard of) and I was brave and took medication. Not fun but very worth it to calm my mind. Then I went to a psychologist. We discovered some of the reasons why anxiety was making me feel like I did. Then I weaned myself off medication and now through the reading of books by Dr Claire weekes and Barry McDonagh and Dr Ross Harris and many other workbooks, I am almost completely free of anxiety. I exercise regularly, do relaxationand meditation, eat a very nutritious diet, take magnesium supplements and drink lots of water.

I'm sorry if my reply stressed you out but I was hoping that you would read it as it was intended to shake you up a bit and realize how many people care for you and they spend ALOT if their time TRYINGto help you.

But as the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make.him drink. You are the horse and the wonderful suggestions are the water. You have it all Johnny, but only YOU are the solution.

I am removing myself from this forum today as I find the negativity very draining. I love the posts from Jeff and Agora and Hear you and Veebee- listen to the Johnny and ACT on them. They are right.

Goodbye

[Nora-B in reply to Vbee]

Tough love they call it. My mother often used to to say when she was trying to get a point across that she was being cruel to be kind

[Cforte]

Also, I get that when I don't eat. Try eating something and then drinking water or apple juice. Maybe your blood sugar is low?

[Johnnie1234 in reply to Cforte]

i been eating i even had a straberry milkshake like 30 minutes ago

[Cforte in reply to Johnnie1234]

I understand. Same here. All I can say is if it is a panic attack them your heart should calm down eventually. I hope you do feel better , but I have to go back to work. Let me know what happened, but you really should be fine. Worst case scenario, call a doctor, nurse line, or go to the hospital if it scares you too much.

[Johnnie1234 in reply to Cforte]

i feel a little better now feels like its going away

[HearYou in reply to Cforte]

Thank you for taking with Johnnie. I just got home. Sometimes Johnnie and I talk.

[Johnnie1234 in reply to HearYou]

How are you feeling today?

[HearYou in reply to Johnnie1234]

OH, that is so nice of you to ask about my day Johnnie, particularly since your anxiety gave you some difficulty. Glad you are feeling better now,

Really a gentleman to ask about me. Today was rather good. My pain is a little rough, but not bad.

Had some very good news today and I have not had the chance to tell anyone yet on this community. Looks like I will be getting another service dog hopefully by this fall.

I miss my service dog Scooter very much, but as you know he developed congestive heart failure last year and died peacefully in my lap. He was my best friend and sidekick for over 12 years.

So, as my doctors have been telling me, I need another service dog. And I am ready now and a Doberman puppy hopefully will be living with me after he is 8 weeks old and a trainer will be coming to my home.

We have worked out the many challenges involved and my husband is coming up with names already. When raised well, Dobermans are actually gentle strong dogs with very good personalities. And they are graceful like deer. Had one years ago. He never broke a thing in the house.

If we are able to name the puppy, I think I like the name Michael.....after St. Michael the Archangel, as he would be my strong dog angel.

What do you think?

[Johnnie1234 in reply to HearYou]

Oh okay thats good to hear and Wow i remember hearing you saying about your dog dying but the fact that your getting another dog is really good news i hope eveeything works out for you with the new dog aswell and how did he get that heart stuff what happen or it was born with it ?

[HearYou in reply to Johnnie1234]

Johnnie, sometimes some heart conditions in animals are like the kind people develop. For almost 13 years Scooter's heart was great. We would walk everywhere taking breaks for my pain to ease.

Then one night he just began to cough. I just stayed up all night stroking him to let him know I knew something was wrong. As soon as the vet office was open, we were there.

The vet asked a lot of questions and took xrays . Then the vet showed me the xrays and explained what I was seeing and told me Scooter was getting olde. He had a condition called congested heart failure, like some people get as they age. Then the vet hugged me. I didn't understand.

The vet said Scooter may live two more months, or maybe two years. I looked at Scooter and told the vet, "Scooter and I will take the two years, thank you." But we only had six months more.

But Scooter was 13 and his heart just wasn't strong enough to last forever. The coughing was from the pressure of fluids building around his hear and his kidneys not able to help.

But he had a really great 6 months more and he enjoyed life. We gave him medicine very much like human medicine, and fed him home cooked rice and chicken and vitamins.

One day Scooter just wasn't able to breathe right and we calmly went back to the vets. Scooter was not afraid, he was happy and calm while I stroked his body across my husband's lap and my lap.

He died calmly without pain, breathing well with the help of some meds. He was ok. He was really an old man in dog years. His body was cremated and I have his ashes. Still miss him.

BUT JOHNNIE, YOU LISTEN TO ME. What Scooter had is nothing that your heart has, do you understand me? You have a very healthy heart and you are a young man with many good years ahead for you.

I think when I do get the puppy, I made need advice from you about him because you know so much about doctors.xx

[Johnnie1234 in reply to HearYou]

you corrected me to i just started thinking about my heart aswell

[HearYou in reply to Johnnie1234]

Good we got you not to think your heart was like Scooter's. xx

[Vbee in reply to HearYou]

Oh LM such good news and you are a saint with endless patience for johnny. Vx

[HearYou in reply to Vbee]

Vbee, I am Hear You, not LM. Looks like it, but not the same.

[HearYou in reply to Vbee]

Johnnie just has some days worse than others, but I think he will be available with advice when my puppy finally does come.xx

[Lm92 in reply to HearYou]

I'm so happy to hear about the new service dog! Dobermans are so wonderful to have. People are sometimes intimidated by them, but everyone I've ever known has been such a loyal, sweet and protective companion.

[HearYou in reply to Lm92]

Thank you very much, as that has been my experience with Dobies.

[Ronig1234]

I know what you are going through ! Its hard to relax when you have all these weird symptoms ! But it will get better ! Try not to focus on it and if you want to try medication -start off slow -cut the Pill in quarters if it’s a tablet and start with that for a bit -then take two parts ,then three and so on .It makes it easier to get used to it . Don’t feed the “fire fear “ -throw water on it 😁👌