Could this be for you??

I know you're tired. Tired of being yelled at. Tired of being thrown around. Tired of being taken advantage of. Tired of feeling unworthy. Tired of lying, hiding, covering up the tears with a fake smile. But with all the pressure, all the pain, it seems there's just no way through it. No way to hide it, and no way to end it. You feel alone, sad, scared, like nobody wants you.

But that's not true.

Someone does want you. It may not be your parents. Or your siblings. Not your friends. Not who you want it to be. But it's who you need it to be. He goes by many names; the Prince of Peace, the Lord of Lords, the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End. And He loves you so, so much, that he sent His one and only son to die on the cross for your sins.

So next time you think 'Nobody cares about me' or 'I'm worthless to this world,' tell yourself it's not true. Press delete and remove that from your head because it's not real. You are amazing, you are cared for, you are loved.

"And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love."

1 Corinthians 13:13

[Gh0st]

Powerful words!!!

[hypercat54]

I am glad your beliefs help you, but you are not allowed to promote them on the main board. The admins have stated this a few times, so if you want to do this then you probably be happier on a religion based site. If you disagree with this you need to take it up with them.

[Dolphin14 in reply to hypercat54]

Agree

This has caused a few problems in the past.

[Mary-intussuception in reply to Dolphin14]

What has?

[Mary-intussuception in reply to Dolphin14]

What about the good 'caused' by Christians on here?

The many people that have been helped and were thankful. Really appreciated the help?

[Hidden in reply to Mary-intussuception]

That's very true. Many people could have been trying so hard on their own and then someone walks into their life and helps them. That is a good thing

[Dolphin14 in reply to Hidden]

I agree with that.

[Dolphin14 in reply to Mary-intussuception]

My word " caused" was about a big incident not too long ago.

I don't think anything positive came out of that thread. It was name calling etc and was actually pulled by admin.

I'm not here to judge anyone's religious beliefs. I just don't like to see people arguing.

I respect both sides. There are believers and non believers.

[hypercat54 in reply to Mary-intussuception]

There is a big difference between someone stating their own beliefs which is fine. But presenting you own beliefs as facts and telling others to believe or preaching at them isn't. It is admittedly a fine line and sometimes blurry.

I and many here don't come in a site like this for someone to promote their own beliefs to try and convert you. There are lots of religion based sites for those who want this. x

[fauxartist in reply to Mary-intussuception]

Not everyone is a Christian, and it's excluding those that aren't to promote one religion over another. Some have trauma associated with religious dogma, and some just follow the site rules like me around swearing, politics and religious posts. PM is where I talk politics....then I don't offend anyone who doesn't agree or want to hear my point of views...it's not personal....just the sites terms of use.

[Mary-intussuception in reply to hypercat54]

There is no mention of the word religion in the post.

[Mary-intussuception in reply to hypercat54]

I am more concerned that someone recently promoted a dangerous, illegal drug on this site.

Also, it is against the rules to use abbreviations. This isn't facebook.

I have seen vulgar expressions in abbreviations. A way to get around using foul language?

[hypercat54 in reply to Mary-intussuception]

The best thing to do is report it Mary. x

[Mary-intussuception in reply to hypercat54]

I did , but did anyone else?

Strange though - Admin deleted some replies including mine which stated the truth about the drug. Yet the original reply containing the name of the drug has not been edited. Still there for anyone including young adults and vulnerable people to see.

So why wasn't the poster of the reply disciplined ?

She/he even stated that the drug was now legal in Canada, which is not true. (That reply to mine was deleted, though).

TRUTH is important.

I sacrificed time (which I don't have to spare just now) researching the truth about the drug and posting the truth on the thread in a reply.

Hoping to clarify matters, put the truth 'out there' .

What's the point ?? My precious time wasted. Admin didn't even reply to me.

There was nothing wrong with my reply that was deleted.

This site is supposed to be about health & support, not promoting dangerous illegal drugs to people seeking help to relieve their suffering.

[hypercat54 in reply to Mary-intussuception]

Which post is it? I will have a look. x

[Hidden in reply to Mary-intussuception]

My understanding is that the post referring to illegal substances has been removed. If you are referring to a different post please report it again and it will be reviewed.

[Mary-intussuception in reply to Hidden]

Still there last time I looked. No time to look again. My reply shouldn't have been removed though. I spent time researching that and getting all the facts.

Was the person disciplined for their replies?

Just this morning another post came through containing foul language.

How are all these post and replies getting past Admin?

How can this be called Health Unlocked?

Are people who use foul language and mention illegal drugs contacted? Is there any discipline in place? Is this site safe ?

[Hidden in reply to Mary-intussuception]

Please note posts are not reviewed in real time. Reports of abuse are reviewed as quickly as possible. If you are able to locate the post you are concerned about again please do report it.

[Mary-intussuception in reply to Hidden]

I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME to do it again.

[Jeff1943]

We are allowed by the rules of this forum to tell what things have brought us comfort and respite and this includes religious belief. It is not a taboo subject. But the rules also say we are not allowed to use this forum to attempt to recruit others to religion.

[hypercat54 in reply to Jeff1943]

Well if advising others to believe in god, and quoting from the bible isn't promotion I don't know what is! Perhaps you have a different definition of it?

[Jeff1943 in reply to hypercat54]

As you may know I'm a fan of Claire Weekes. She was an atheist but still made a point of writing in 'Self help for your nerves' that religion was a great help for those people with anxiety disorder who were believers. I suppose this could be construed as 'promoting' religion and if alive today she would be banned from this forum.

As for myself, I don't agree with any religion but believe in God and although I've never found the need to mention it before my spiritual beliefs have been a tremendous help in dealing with my anxiety disorder. If that offends the League of the Militant Godless then they need to learn some tolerance.

[Dolphin14 in reply to Jeff1943]

What is the league of the Militant Goddess? Is it name calling?

[Jeff1943 in reply to Dolphin14]

The League of the Militant Godless was an organisation in Soviet Russia designed to stamp out all traces of religion.

[Dolphin14 in reply to Jeff1943]

Interesting. I didn't know that

[hypercat54 in reply to Dolphin14]

Nor me. x

[Dolphin14 in reply to hypercat54]

Every day we can learn something new. 🍿X

[Hidden in reply to Jeff1943]

It didn't work out very well for them now did it...many fled...including my family and for that I'm grateful!

Sparkles and dump trucks of groovy love, peace, light, joy & hugs Jeff!

[Mary-intussuception in reply to hypercat54]

Someone recently promoted a highly dangerous, illegal drug.

I would be more concerned about that.

[Mrspjsmom in reply to Mary-intussuception]

I did not see that post or would have reported it. It concerns me too. I don't know the exact rules of religious posts even though I should. It takes me awhile to fully process things. As for now I just scroll past them.

[hypercat54]

Stating your own beliefs and what has helped you is fine. Presenting god as fact and quoting from the bible crosses the line into promotion. I am surprised you seem unable to understand that, as you are obviously intelligent.

This type of religious post has come up many times in here and admin have made their views clear on this subject, so I suggest you take it up with them, not me.

Also you must be aware that religion is a trigger for many here so how about a bit of understanding and tolerance for them?

[Jeff1943 in reply to hypercat54]

I don' t understand what you are complaining about. We have both said here that stating your own beliefs and what has helped you is fine. We have both stated that "we are not allowed to use this forum to recruit others to religion" as it is against the rules of this forum.

Subject to those provisos I will never accept that any mention of religion is a trigger point as religious toleration is written into the law of all civilised counteies.

Over the past 10 years both here in the u.k. and in Ireland many, many cases have come to light in the Church of England and Roman Catholic churches of sexual abuse of children in the care of those churches and the way it was known but covered up at the highest levels of those churches. Many of those children were in homes run by those institutions so there was no escape for them.

One can well imagine the psychological damage this did lasting for many into adulthood where I suppose we would call it post traumatic stress disorder. The churches have much to answer for but these are the crimes of mortals and not of God (for those that believe in him).

Nobody, for example, would blame all atheists for the crimes some committed during, say, the Spanish civil war.

[hypercat54 in reply to Jeff1943]

The poster is not stating their beliefs, but presenting god as a fact and and quoting from the bible. This crosses the line into promotion of their beliefs and is not allowed on here.

I don't know what atheism, crime, and the Spanish civil war have to do with either what I or the poster said! Nor the godless militants.

[Jeff1943 in reply to hypercat54]

I agree with you that the poster is not just mentioning that his/her religious beliefs helped them cope with anxiety (permissible) but is trying to recruit people to religion (not permissible under the rules of this forum.

Where I disagree with you is when you say that any mention of God is a "trigger" and shouldn't be allowed. At least I thought that was what you were saying. I don't know what happened in your life that you consider the G word is a " Trigger" for your anxiety.

Everybody in a democracy has a duty and responsibility to be tolerant of views that they disagree with.

I mentioned the Spanish Civil War because the communists on the Republican side (who were atheists) did terrible things to nuns and priests when they could get their hands on them but I wouldn't blame atheists like you for what they did and claim any mention of atheistic belief on this forum is a "Trigger" for me.

But Yes, the wording of this thread is evangelical and that is not allowed here.

[hypercat54 in reply to Jeff1943]

That's all I was saying and I don't understand how this arose if you agree with me. I still don't understand where Spain and nuns came from and why you brought them up.

A number on here have said they are triggered by religion and I am surprised you haven't seen this. I have a few times so agree with admins decisions about religious posts. Others are triggered by other things, and whilst I may not understand it, I have to respect their feelings, as we all need to.

[Jeff1943 in reply to hypercat54]

O.K. let me spell it out for you as simple as possible.

As I said on my very first post on this thread "the rules say that we are not allowed to use this forum to try and recruit others to religion."

So I don't need to be repeatedly told that by you. I wrote it.

But you claim that you are "triggered by religion". That doesn't just mean people evangelising but includes people saying they found religion helpful in dealing with anxiety which is allowable under this forum's rules.

You don't have the right to be "triggered" by someone saying that they found religion helpful in dealing with anxiety.

That's the point I'm trying to make.

[hypercat54 in reply to Jeff1943]

I am not saying I am triggered by religion but that others here have said they are and their feelings should be taken into account. What I am triggered by are people presenting their own beliefs as facts and telling others to believe it.

Words of one syllable examples.

Poster A. I find my faith helps me and am a Christian/Catholic/(insert your own faith). It helps me with my anxiety/depression and it might help you too. This is fine.

Poster B. The Lord has many names and believes in you as he does exist. Read (insert psalm). Not fine as it is preaching. You have actually agreed that the latter is preaching, so I don't know why you keep picking holes. I have come to the conclusion you are just doing a wind up or getting your kicks out of this, so I am out of this silly discussion as of now.

[Jeff1943 in reply to hypercat54]

So sad that you cannot discuss this important point without turning nasty. Winding you up, indeed!

[Hidden in reply to hypercat54]

I completely get what you’re saying. I personally dislike religious talk as it can become a bit too much. One of the things that bothers me is the question “Are you Christian or Catholic?” Well, yes, I am. The correct question is “Are you Catholic or Protestant?”

I’m a Christian - of the Catholic faith.

Christians are composed of those of the Catholic faith as well as the Protestants - Baptist, Episcopalian, Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian ... and the non-denominational sects.

I do totally understand what you’re trying to say, hypercat. I typically don’t even respond to posts regarding religion/faith/God for a couple of reasons, one of which is that I have had my faith shaken so badly.

[Sillysausage234]

🤦‍♂️.......not the R word again

[Dolphin14 in reply to Sillysausage234]

Ya.. it is Sunday though

[LilyAnnepuppy in reply to Sillysausage234]

At least it's not the P word.

[hypercat54 in reply to LilyAnnepuppy]

Or the F one! x

[Jeff1943 in reply to hypercat54]

Quite frankly hypercat54 I find your atheism triggers my anxiety.

Someone only has to mention the G word and you claim you're going to have a nervous breakdown. Any detailed description of how faith has helped someone gives you Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

We are only allowed to mention GOD according to strict guidelines set out here by you.

I feel a responsibility to stand up to your brand of religious intolerance. So I have to tell you that I believe God exists.

There I've said it. Now you can go running to Admin to get me banned. But before you do, ask yourself who does more good here? You with your 0 followers or me with 300?

That's all that really counts here, who is helping the bewildered and the suffering most.

Off you go then and report me for being a mere " wind up". Your words not mine.

[Mary-intussuception in reply to Sillysausage234]

The R word isn't in the post !

[LiveandLetLive42 in reply to Sillysausage234]

LOL

[Mrspjsmom]

I am glad your faith has helped you. I also think your intentions were good. However the post does break the rules. Please be more careful in the future. I have my own beliefs and don't want to feel like I am being preached to and that my beliefs are wrong. Thanks for listening.

[hypercat54 in reply to Mrspjsmom]

Thank you Mrsp. The voice of reason. x

[Mrspjsmom in reply to hypercat54]

Just giving someone the benefit of the doubt.