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good evening all , I would appreciate any advice with my latest test results before I see the doctor. I’m currently taking 62.5mg of Levo , which I upped from 50mg about 6 months ago , I’ve been feeling ok , recently had a bout of dry eyes , a bit of itchy skin , and I’ve recently finished a course of antibiotics and wondered if this would have had an impact on any of the results. My TSH has gone up a little bit since the last blood tests when I was only taking 50mg. Many thanks in advance

Vitamin D (25 OH) nmol/L

67

50 - 200

Optimal 75-200

Adequate 50-<75

Insufficient 25 -<50

Deficient <25

Magnesium mmol/L

1.0

0.7 - 1.0

CRP mg/L

1.3

<5.0

Ferritin µg/L

268

30 - 400

Serum Folate nmol/L

11.10

8.83 - 60.8

Active B12 pmol/L

100

37.5 - 150

TSH mIU/L

2.12

0.27 - 4.20

Free T4 pmol/L

13.7

12.0 - 22.0

Free T3 pmol/L

4.7

3.1 - 6.8

T4 Total nmol/L

79.0

66 - 181

H

Anti-Thyroglobulin Abs IU/mL

156

< 115

Anti-Thyroidperoxidase abs IU/mL

>600.0

<34

Sample Dated: 20-03-2025 09:15

Clinical Details:

TEST RESULT NORMAL RANGE CHEMISTRY / IMMUNOASSAY

Cortisol (Random) 305.0

4pm - 8pm 73.8 - 291

UNITS

73.8 - 507.0

nmol/L

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Kerry124

you need another increase as your TSH should be 1 or lower

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Burgerballs in reply toKerry124

Thank you for your thoughts Kerry.

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You need next increase in Levo to 75mcg daily

Retest 8 weeks later

Likely ready for further increase by then

Free T4 (fT4) 13.7 pmol/L (12 - 22) 

Ft4 currently only 17.0% through range

Free T3 (fT3) 4.7 pmol/L (3.1 - 6.8)

Ft3 better at 43.2% through range

Aiming for Ft4 at least 60% through range

Folate and vitamin D are low

Exactly what vitamin supplements are you taking

High thyroid antibodies confirms cause is autoimmune thyroid disease

Are you on gluten free diet

If not get coeliac blood test if not been tested yet

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Burgerballs in reply toSlowDragon

Thank you SlowDragon for your comprehensive reply, I am currently around 85kg in weight , and must admit that I haven’t been supplementing any vitamins until about a week ago when I started with vitamin D+K2 and a chewable vitamin C. I know I need to do more but on the days when I feel ok I seem to forget that I have this condition 😊. I just looked at the results I posted 11 months ago and wondered why I feel a little better today with slightly worse test results ? I will be talking to the doctor about an increase this week for sure , and discussing the results and further testing with them. Are there any parts of the results that I should be more concerned about ? Many thanks

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toBurgerballs

GP should be retesting you regularly every 3 months after each dose increase in Levo

Request GP do coeliac blood test as per guidelines

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SlowDragonAdministrator

GP should have been testing thyroid levels every 3 months after starting you on 50mcg Levo

Dose is increased slowly upwards over 6-18 months until on full replacement dose

approx how much do you weigh in kilo

Even if we frequently start on only 50mcg, most people need to increase levothyroxine dose slowly upwards in 25mcg steps (retesting 6-8 weeks after each increase) until eventually on, or somewhere near full replacement dose (typically 1.6mcg levothyroxine per kilo of your weight per day)

cks.nice.org.uk/topics/hypo...

bnf.nice.org.uk/drugs/levot...

nhs.uk/medicines/levothyrox...

Adults usually start with a dose between 50 micrograms and 100 micrograms taken once a day. This may be increased gradually over a few weeks to between 100 micrograms and 200 micrograms taken once a day.

Some people need a bit less than guidelines, some a bit more

TSH should always be below 2 on levothyroxine

gponline.com/endocrinology-...

Graph showing median TSH in healthy population is 1-1.5

web.archive.org/web/2004060...

Comprehensive list of references for needing LOW TSH on levothyroxine

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu....

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi...

If symptoms of hypothyroidism persist despite normalisation of TSH, the dose of levothyroxine can be titrated further to place the TSH in the lower part of the reference range or even slightly below (i.e., TSH: 0.1–2.0 mU/L), but avoiding TSH < 0.1 mU/L. Use of alternate day dosing of different levothyroxine strengths may be needed to achieve this (e.g., 100 mcg for 4 days; 125 mcg for 3 days weekly).

sciencedirect.com/science/a...

The optimal daily dose in overt hypothyroidism is 1·5–1·8 μg per kg of bodyweight, rounded to the nearest 25 μg

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Gluten

Your antibodies are high this is Hashimoto's, (also known by medics here in UK more commonly as autoimmune thyroid disease).

Hashimoto's affects the gut and leads to low stomach acid and then low vitamin levels

Low vitamin levels affect Thyroid hormone working

Poor gut function can lead leaky gut (literally holes in gut wall) this can cause food intolerances. Most common by far is gluten. Dairy is second most common.

A trial of strictly gluten free diet is always worth doing

Only 5% of Hashimoto’s patients test positive for coeliac but a further 81% of Hashimoto’s patients who try gluten free diet find noticeable or significant improvement or find it’s essential

A strictly gluten free diet helps or is essential due to gluten intolerance (no test available) or due to leaky gut and gluten causing molecular mimicry (see Amy Myers link)

Changing to a strictly gluten free diet may help reduce symptoms, help gut heal and may slowly lower TPO antibodies

While still eating high gluten diet ask GP for coeliac blood test first as per NICE Guidelines

nice.org.uk/guidance/ng20/c...

Or buy a test online, about £20

Assuming test is negative you can immediately go on strictly gluten free diet 

(If test is positive you will need to remain on high gluten diet until endoscopy, maximum 6 weeks wait officially) 

Trying gluten free diet for 6 months. If no noticeable improvement then reintroduce gluten and see if symptoms get worse

chriskresser.com/the-gluten...

amymyersmd.com/2018/04/3-re...

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

drknews.com/changing-your-d...

Non Coeliac Gluten sensitivity (NCGS) and autoimmune disease

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/296...

The predominance of Hashimoto thyroiditis represents an interesting finding, since it has been indirectly confirmed by an Italian study, showing that autoimmune thyroid disease is a risk factor for the evolution towards NCGS in a group of patients with minimal duodenal inflammation. On these bases, an autoimmune stigma in NCGS is strongly supported

nuclmed.gr/wp/wp-content/up...

In summary, whereas it is not yet clear whether a gluten free diet can prevent autoimmune diseases, it is worth mentioning that HT patients with or without CD benefit from a diet low in gluten as far as the progression and the potential disease complications are concerned

restartmed.com/hashimotos-g...

Despite the fact that 5-10% of patients have Celiac disease, in my experience and in the experience of many other physicians, at least 80% + of patients with Hashimoto's who go gluten-free notice a reduction in their symptoms almost immediately.

Similarly few months later consider trying dairy free too. Approx 50-60% find dairy free beneficial

With loads of vegan dairy alternatives these days it’s not as difficult as in the past

Post discussing gluten

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Recent research in China into food intolerances with Hashimoto’s

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

More interesting Chinese research on Hashimoto’s and leaky gut

nature.com/articles/s41598-...

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Tina_Maria

At the beginning, your thyroid might still be producing some hormones, but as time goes by and as you start replacement therapy, this will cease. In the early days, once you are titrating up to your replacement dose (generally 1.6 mcg per kg of body weight) you can have some days when you feel good and days when you feel quite bad. This is a normal process and the better days will increase when you get closer to the dose your body needs.

As slowdragon has mentioned, your Vitamin D and folate are still low. I know it is easy to forget when you are busy with other things, but perhaps get a little daily pill dispenser, where you put all the supplements you take for the day. This way, you can check if you have taken them and you can be more consistent. After a while you might not need it anymore, as you have developed a routine, but especially at the beginning it is good to have the reminder so your deficient levels can be build up and support your thyroid hormones.

Are you taking a good Vitamin B complex? This will ensure you get a good amount of B12 and folate and it also keeps the other B-vitamins balanced. Many people also take a good magnesium supplement, as it helps with energy and assists with the absorption of the B-vitamins as well as the vitamin D.

I think as well that you need an increase in medication, the normal course of action at the beginning should be that you get tested every 6-8 weeks, so the dose can be adjusted (usually in 25mcg steps). If the surgery is not calling you in, you should try to be proactive and reminding them to set up a blood test. Only this way you can be sure that you get the increase you need, otherwise you are on too low a dose for too long, which can leave you under-replaced and symptomatic.

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Burgerballs in reply toTina_Maria

Thank you you Tina for your reply , you give me food for thought x

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