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Test Results - Can Someone Help?: So since... - Thyroid UK
So since posting on Sunday about 'Does anyone else feel this way?' lots of people told me to post my results on here to enlighten me. I'm very new to this so I have limited knowledge about my underactive thyroid and I've been feeling pretty much better since getting medicated in November 2019 but keep having random 'surges' of physical panic (see my other post for explanation).
Some of you mentioned that each lab has there own idea of 'normal' but I can't actually see what frame they use - they literally just write low / high etc.
Below are my results from my NHS GP - if anyone can explain please do!
November 2019 (very first test doctor runs lots of random tests and we find out my thyroid is underactive)
TSH = 59.95 mU/L (High)
Serum free T4 level = 6.2 pmoll/L (Low)
B12 = 115 NG/L (Low)
Vitamin D3 Level = 21nmol/L (Definicient)
January 2020 - we find out it is an autoimmune disease
April 2020 (Demanded another test because I was having these 'surges' I mentioned in my other post)
TSH = 2.18 mU/L
I've spotted loads of you saying about T3 tests too but I don't seem to have this at all - is there a reason for it?
For context, since November I have been taking 50 micrograms of North Star Levothyroxine each day. I have also prescribed Vitamin D tablets I take monthly after initial loading doses.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can respond
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After your result there should be numbers in brackets which is the range. Where is says low etc on yours.
Even without the range for the April TSH it looks as if you are not taking enough levothyroxine. TSH should be 1 or lower when on levo. I would suggest an increase of 25mcg then blood tests in 8 weeks.
Often the GP surgeries just do TSH and if you are lucky FT4 too. They don't often do FT3 testing. My GP says this is because they are not knowledgable enough about FT3 and are not allowed to prescribe T3 so it has to be authorised by an endo. It depends on your surgery.
Bloods should be retested 6-8 weeks after each dose increase
The aim of Levothyroxine is to increase the dose slowly in 25mcg steps upwards until TSH is under 2 (many patients need TSH significantly under one) and most important is that FT4 is in top third of range and FT3 at least half way through range
NHS guidelines on Levothyroxine including that most patients eventually need somewhere between 100mcg and 200mcg Levothyroxine.
Also note what foods to avoid (eg recommended to avoid calcium rich foods at least four hours from taking Levo)
For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested. Also EXTREMELY important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12
Low vitamin levels are extremely common, especially if you have autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto's) diagnosed by raised Thyroid antibodies
Ask GP to test vitamin B12, folate and ferritin levels
Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and before eating or drinking anything other than water .
Last dose of Levothyroxine 24 hours prior to blood test. (taking delayed dose immediately after blood draw).
This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip, best not mentioned to GP or phlebotomist)
Is this how you do your tests?
Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or thyroid antibodies or all relevant vitamins
Even if we don’t start on full replacement dose, most people need to increase dose slowly upwards in 25mcg steps (retesting 6-8 weeks after each increase) until on full replacement dose
Consider starting levothyroxine at a dosage of 1.6 micrograms per kilogram of body weight per day (rounded to the nearest 25 micrograms) for adults under 65 with primary hypothyroidism and no history of cardiovascular disease.
Traditionally we have tended to start patients on a low dose of levothyroxine and titrate it up over a period of months. RCT evidence suggests that for the majority of patients this is not necessary and may waste resources.
For patients aged >60y or with ischaemic heart disease, start levothyroxine at 25–50μg daily and titrate up every 3 to 6 weeks as tolerated.
For ALL other patients start at full replacement dose. For most this will equate to 1.6 μg/kg/day (approximately 100μg for a 60kg woman and 125μg for a 75kg man).
If you are starting treatment for subclinical hypothyroidism, this article advises starting at a dose close to the full treatment dose on the basis that it is difficult to assess symptom response unless a therapeutic dose has been trialled.
A small Dutch double-blind cross-over study (ArchIntMed 2010;170:1996) demonstrated that night time rather than morning dosing improved TSH suppression and free T4 measurements, but made no difference to subjective wellbeing. It is reasonable to take levothyroxine at night rather than in the morning, especially for individuals who do not eat late at night.
As an example....if, when perfectly healthy, your own thyroid made the equivalent of 125mcg levothyroxine....and this metabolism is controlled by pituitary sending messages - TSH (Thyroid stimulating hormone)
Then as your thyroid starts to fail (usually due to autoimmune thyroid disease) ....you might get diagnosed when your thyroid has reduced output to roughly equivalent of 75mcg levothyroxine
Pituitary has noticed there’s a drop in thyroid hormones in the blood....(that’s Ft4 and, most importantly, the active hormone Ft3) ....so to try to make more thyroid hormone ...pituitary sends out stronger message to thyroid - TSH rises up
When GP starts you on 50mcg ....initially you feel a bit better ....as you have 75mcg from your own thyroid and 50mcg levothyroxine
But (here’s the bit most GP’s don’t understand)....levothyroxine doesn’t “top up” your own thyroid output.....well it does very briefly....but the pituitary very soon “sees” the levothyroxine in the blood....and TSH starts to drop
So at the end of week 6 ....TSH has dropped a lot. Your thyroid takes a rest ....has a holiday
So at this point you are now only mainly using the 50mcg levothyroxine....which is actually a dose reduction down from managing on 75mcg from your own thyroid before you started on levothyroxine
So you start to feel worse .....and are ready for next 25mcg dose increase in levothyroxine
Modern thinking ....and New NICE guidelines suggests it might actually be better to start on higher dose .....but many medics just don’t read guidelines ....and many patients can’t tolerate starting on more than 50mcg and need to increase slowly, especially with Hashimoto’s
Starting on 50mcg and stepping dose up in 25mcg steps, retesting 6-8 weeks after each increase. But we still very often need to increase up to full replacement dose, as fast as is tolerable
Dr Toft, past president of the British Thyroid Association and leading endocrinologist, states in Pulse Magazine,
"The appropriate dose of levothyroxine is that which restores euthyroidism and serum TSH to the lower part of the reference range - 0.2-0.5mU/l.
In this case, free thyroxine is likely to be in the upper part of its reference range or even slightly elevated – 18-22pmol/l.
Most patients will feel well in that circumstance. But some need a higher dose of levothyroxine to suppress serum TSH and then the serum-free T4 concentration will be elevated at around 24-28pmol/l.
This 'exogenous subclinical hyperthyroidism' is not dangerous as long as serum T3 is unequivocally normal – that is, serum total around T3 1.7nmol/l (reference range 1.0-2.2nmol/l)."
You can obtain a copy of the articles from Thyroid UK email print it and highlight question 6 to show your doctor
please email Dionne at
tukadmin@thyroiduk.org
New NHS England Liothyronine guidelines July 2019 clearly state on page 13 that TSH should be between 0.4-1.5 when treated with just Levothyroxine
Note that it says test should be in morning BEFORE taking Levo thyroxine
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