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Have Hashi's - Body Shaking, Breathless, Scaly Skin - Help!


Greetings dear folks on this board. Hope you and your families remain well.

I have posted a couple of times before and have appreciated the responses.

I am not medicated for thyroid or anything.

Symptoms - almost body shaking, feel loud heart beat, exhaustion and fatigue most in morning but all day too, not great breathing, feeling of tension constantly, diarrhea mostly, bend over and come back up feel spacey, wrinkled scaly skin, lost outer part of eyebrows, brain fog, no appetite, fat around the middle, puffy face, slight puffy toes, muscle wasting.

I am under tremendous pressure managing a 93 and 95 year old, selling family real estate and in a family relations debacle.

Slow Dragon - I did the following blood work per the instructions you provide to all.

Please tell me what you think!!!!

I have a couple of doctor appointments coming up - I would appreciate having some knowledge for challenging purposes.

Thank you so very much


Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies 61 (<35) High Getting higher over the years

Thyroglobulin Antibodies <20 (<41)

Thyroglobulin 25.4 (1.6-60)

FSH 90 (16-157 post menopausal)

TSH 0.84 (0.35-5.00) TSH has been as high as 3.2 in past year

Free T4 15 (12-22)

Free T3 4.4 (3.4-5.9)

B12 985 (>220)

Ferritin 112 (12-289)

Vit D 134 (76-250)

Folate RBC > 3,000 (was not on folate for about 5-6 days before test)

Zinc 9.9 (7.7-14.9) This with supplementation - I think I have low zinc

Estradiol 33 (<202, post menopausal) Rather low I think

Testosterone Free < 20 Not sure (<29) Rather low I think

ACTH 4.6 (<10.0)

DHEA 6.7 (0.51-5.56) High, always a bit high for many years

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Well your thyroid levels look ok

Though slightly raised TPO antibodies suggests you do have Hashimoto’s

Are you on strictly gluten free diet?

Hashimoto's affects the gut and leads to low stomach acid and then low vitamin levels

Low vitamin levels affect Thyroid hormone working

Poor gut function can lead leaky gut (literally holes in gut wall) this can cause food intolerances. Most common by far is gluten. Dairy is second most common.

According to Izabella Wentz the Thyroid Pharmacist approx 5% with Hashimoto's are coeliac, but over 80% find gluten free diet helps, sometimes significantly. Either due to direct gluten intolerance (no test available) or due to leaky gut and gluten causing molecular mimicry (see Amy Myers link)

Changing to a strictly gluten free diet may help reduce symptoms, help gut heal and slowly lower TPO antibodies

While still eating high gluten diet ask GP for coeliac blood test first or buy test online for under £20, just to rule it out first

Assuming test is negative you can immediately go on strictly gluten free diet

(If test is positive you will need to remain on high gluten diet until endoscopy, maximum 6 weeks wait officially)

Trying gluten free diet for 3-6 months. If no noticeable improvement then reintroduce gluten and see if symptoms get worse






Non Coeliac Gluten sensitivity (NCGS) and autoimmune disease


The predominance of Hashimoto thyroiditis represents an interesting finding, since it has been indirectly confirmed by an Italian study, showing that autoimmune thyroid disease is a risk factor for the evolution towards NCGS in a group of patients with minimal duodenal inflammation. On these bases, an autoimmune stigma in NCGS is strongly supported


The obtained results suggest that the gluten-free diet may bring clinical benefits to women with autoimmune thyroid disease


In summary, whereas it is not yet clear whether a gluten free diet can prevent autoimmune diseases, it is worth mentioning that HT patients with or without CD benefit from a diet low in gluten as far as the progression and the potential disease complications are concerned


Despite the fact that 5-10% of patients have Celiac disease, in my experience and in the experience of many other physicians, at least 80% + of patients with Hashimoto's who go gluten-free notice a reduction in their symptoms almost immediately.

Why gluten intolerance can upset cortisol levels


What vitamin supplements are you currently taking?

Suggest you look at getting cortisol and DHEA testing

But possibly try strictly gluten free diet FIRST ....as this may improve adrenals




Just read you are already gluten free

In which case look at doing cortisol saliva test

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