All other results

[Sammyh90]

Please can someone help all other results thank you

TPO ANTIBODY 276 (<34)

TG ANTIBODY 355.6 (<115)

TESTOSTERONE 2.2 (0.5 - 1.7)

FSH 4.6 (told this is deranged and points to polycystic ovaries)

LH 6.8 (told this is deranged and points to polycystic ovaries)

FERRITIN 22 (30 - 400)

FOLATE 4.1 (4.6 - 18.7)

VITAMIN B12 199 (180 - 900)

VITAMIN D 25.5 (25 - 50 DEFICIENT)

[SlowDragon Administrator]

So your high antibodies confirm you have Hashimoto's

PCOS (polycistic ovaries) and Hashimoto's are linked

pcosdiva.com/2015/08/got-pc...

drhagmeyer.com/women-pcos-o...

Both are linked to leaky gut and gluten intolerance too

See SeasideSusie replies on detailed vitamin supplements

Eg healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

Sammy - you haven't said if you are taking anything for these dire results so I'm assuming you aren't.

FERRITIN 22 (30 - 400)

For thyroid hormone to work (that's our own as well as replacement hormone) ferritin needs to be at least 70, preferably half way through range. You need an iron supplement and because your level is below range you should ask for an iron infusion which raise your level within 24-48 hours whereas tablets will take months to raise your level.

You need to ask for an iron panel and full blood count to see if you have anaemia.

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FOLATE 4.1 (4.6 - 18.7) VITAMIN B12 199 (180 - 900)

You are folate deficient with low B12. Do you have any signs of B12 deficiency b12deficiency.info/signs-an... You should post on the Pernicious Anaemia Society forum for further advice healthunlocked.com/pasoc quoting Folate, B12, ferritin and any iron results, also any signs of B12 deficiency you may be experiencing. You may need testing for Pernicious Anaemia and you may need B12 injections. If you are prescribed folic acid don't start taking it until other investigations have been carried out.

I have read (but not researched so don't have links) that BCSH, UKNEQAS and NICE guidelines recommend:

"In the presence of discordance between test results and strong clinical features of deficiency, treatment should not be delayed to avoid neurological impairment."

And an extract from the book, "Could it be B12?" by Sally M. Pacholok:

"We believe that the 'normal' serum B12 threshold needs to be raised from 200 pg/ml to at least 450 pg/ml because deficiencies begin to appear in the cerebrospinal fluid below 550".

"For brain and nervous system health and prevention of disease in older adults, serum B12 levels should be maintained near or above 1000 pg/ml."

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VITAMIN D 25.5 (25 - 50 DEFICIENT)

You are just 0.5 away from severe deficiency. As your GP to treat you with loading doses according to NICE treatment summary for Vit D deficiency:

cks.nice.org.uk/vitamin-d-d...

"Treat for Vitamin D deficiency if serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D (25[OH]D) levels are less than 30 nmol/L.

For the treatment of vitamin D deficiency, the recommended treatment is based on fixed loading doses of vitamin D (up to a total of about 300,000 international units [IU] given either as weekly or daily split doses, followed by lifelong maintenace treatment of about 800 IU a day. Higher doses of up to 2000IU a day, occasionally up to 4000 IU a day, may be used for certain groups of people, for example those with malabsorption disorders. Several treatment regims are available, including 50,000 IU once a week for 6 weeks (300,000 IU in total), 20,000 IU twice a week for 7 weeks (280,000 IU in total), or 4000 IU daily for 10 weeks (280,000 IU in total)."

Each Health Authority has their own guidelines but they will be very similar. Go and see your GP and ask that he treats you according to the guidelines and prescribes the loading doses, not 800iu as this wont be enough. Once these have been completed you will need a reduced amount (not 800iu) to bring your level up to what's recommended by the Vit D Council - which is 100-150nmol/L - and then you'll need a maintenance dose which may be 2000iu daily, it's trial and error so it's recommended to retest once or twice a year to keep within the recommended range. You can do this with a private fingerprick blood spot test with City Assays vitamindtest.org.uk/

There are important cofactors needed when taking D3

vitamindcouncil.org/about-v...

D3 aids absorption of calcium from food and K2-MK7 directs the calcium to bones and teeth where it is needed and away from arteries and soft tissues where it can be deposited and cause problems.

D3 and K2 are fat soluble so should be taken with the fattiest meal of the day, D3 four hours away from thyroid meds.

Magnesium helps D3 to work and comes in different forms, check to see which would suit you best and as it's calming it's best taken in the evening, four hours away from thyroid meds

naturalnews.com/046401_magn...

Check out the other cofactors too.

[Sammyh90 in reply to SeasideSusie]

IRON 8.5 (6 - 26)

TRANSFERRIN SATURATION 16 (12 - 45)

MCV 77.6 (80 - 100)

MCHC 385 (310 - 360)

Everything else on complete blood count in range

Thanks

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Sammyh90]

Sammy

MCV 77.6 (80 - 100)

MCHC 385 (310 - 360)

These suggest iron deficiency anaemia and you should ask to be treated appropriately, see NICE Clinical Knowledge Summary for iron deficiency anaemia treatment (which will be very similar to your local area guidelines):

cks.nice.org.uk/anaemia-iro...

How should I treat iron deficiency anaemia?

•Address underlying causes as necessary (for example treat menorrhagia or stop nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, if possible).

•Treat with oral ferrous sulphate 200 mg tablets two or three times a day.

◦If ferrous sulphate is not tolerated, consider oral ferrous fumarate tablets or ferrous gluconate tablets.

◦Do not wait for investigations to be carried out before prescribing iron supplements.

•If dietary deficiency of iron is thought to be a contributory cause of iron deficiency anaemia, advise the person to maintain an adequate balanced intake of iron-rich foods (for example dark green vegetables, iron-fortified bread, meat, apricots, prunes, and raisins) and consider referral to a dietitian.

• Monitor the person to ensure that there is an adequate response to iron treatment.

Take each iron tablet with 1000mg Vitamin C to aid absorption and help prevent constipaton. Always take iron 4 hours away from thyroid meds and two hours away from other medication and supplements as it will affect absorption.

[Sammyh90 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Ok I am going to speak to GP tonight to discuss

Thanks

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Sammyh90]

Sammy - if your GP has ignored these results and you're seeing the same one tonight, you might like to ask why he/she has ignored them and doesn't he/she that is rather negligent.

If you are seeing a different one, I would point out that these results have been ignored and then consider if you want to make a complaint against this GP for negligence.