Need help understanding results for antibodies etc

[Kaybee5]

Also iron deficient and vitamin D deficient. Thank you

TPO ANTIBODY 247 (<34)

TG ANTIBODY 258.3 (<115)

FERRITIN 23 (15 - 150)

VITAMIN D 42.1 (25 - 50 DEFICIENT)

FOLATE 2.3 (2.5 - 19.5)

VITAMIN B12 225 (180 - 900)

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

Kaybee5

Your high antibodies mean that you are positive for autoimmune thyroid disease aka Hashimoto's which is where antibodies attack the thyroid and gradually destroy it.

You can help reduce the antibodies by adopting a strict gluten free diet which has helped many members here. Gluten contains gliadin (a protein) which is thought to trigger autoimmune attacks so eliminating gluten can help reduce these attacks. You don't need to be gluten sensitive or have Coeliac disease for a gluten free diet to help.

Supplementing with selenium l-selenomethionine 200mcg daily can also help reduce the antibodies, as can keeping TSH suppressed.

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Gluten/thyroid connection:

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FERRITIN 23 (15 - 150)

VITAMIN D 42.1 (25 - 50 DEFICIENT)

FOLATE 2.3 (2.5 - 19.5)

VITAMIN B12 225 (180 - 900)

"Also iron deficient and vitamin D deficient"

Presumably to know you are iron deficient you have had a full blood count, iron panel, etc.

What has your GP said and what is he doing about these results then?

[Kaybee5 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Hi I take 800iu vitamin D and 1 iron tablet per day

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Kaybee5]

So have you got a diagnosis of iron deficiency anaemia? Did you have a full blood count, iron panel, haemoglobin test, to confirm this?

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VITAMIN D 42.1 (25 - 50 DEFICIENT)

The recommended level is 100-150nmol/L according to the Vit D Council.

800iu D3 isn't going to raise your level. It is hardly a maintenance dose for someone with a reasonable level.

You need, at the moment, about 5000iu daily to boost your level. Look at Doctors Best softgels bodykind.com/product/2463-b... and I suggest you take 5000iu daily for 3 months and then retest, privately if necessary with City Assays vitamindtest.org.uk/index.html . When you've reached the recommended level reduce to 5000iu alternate days as a maintenance dose, you may need less, it's trial and error. It's recommended to retest once or twice a year to keep within the recommended range.

There are important cofactors needed when taking D3 vitamindcouncil.org/about-v...

D3 aids absorption of calcium from food and K2-MK7 directs the calcium to bones and teeth where it is needed and away from arteries and soft tissues where it can be deposited and cause problems.

D3 and K2 are fat soluble so should be taken with the fattiest meal of the day, D3 four hours away from thyroid meds.

Magnesium comes in different forms, check to see which would suit you best and as it's calming it's best taken in the evening, four hours away from thyroid meds naturalnews.com/046401_magn...

Check out the other cofactors too.

[Kaybee5 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Complete blood count

RED BLOOD COUNT 4.45 (3.80 - 5.80)

WHITE CELL COUNT 6.18 (4.0 - 11.0)

MCV 76.1 (80 - 98)

MCHC 378 (310 - 350)

HAEMOGLOBIN 124 (120 - 150)

HAEMATOCRIT 0.400 (0.370 - 0.470)

PLATELET COUNT 217 (140 - 400)

IRON 6.1 (6.0 - 26.0)

TRANSFERRIN SATURATION 12 (10 - 30)

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Kaybee5]

So it seems as though you have iron deficiency anaemia, you haven't said you've had that officially diagnosed but those results point to it.

One iron tablet is not enough. You need to speak to you GP and ask for the appropriate treatment.

You can check your local area's guidelines for iron deficiency anaemia, which should be similar to the Clinical Knowledge Summary cks.nice.org.uk/anaemia-iro... which states

How should I treat iron deficiency anaemia?

•Address underlying causes as necessary (for example treat menorrhagia or stop nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, if possible).

•Treat with oral ferrous sulphate 200 mg tablets two or three times a day.

◦If ferrous sulphate is not tolerated, consider oral ferrous fumarate tablets or ferrous gluconate tablets.

◦Do not wait for investigations to be carried out before prescribing iron supplements.

•If dietary deficiency of iron is thought to be a contributory cause of iron deficiency anaemia, advise the person to maintain an adequate balanced intake of iron-rich foods (for example dark green vegetables, iron-fortified bread, meat, apricots, prunes, and raisins) and consider referral to a dietitian.

• Monitor the person to ensure that there is an adequate response to iron treatment.

Read through the rest of the summary and discuss as necessary with your GP.

[Kaybee5 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Hi haematologist says I have iron deficiency and GP disagrees with diagnosis

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Kaybee5]

Well surely that needs sorting out. Who takes precedence here - the haemotologist who presumable is a specialist in the field, or the GP who is a generalist. In your position I would contact the haemotologist and tell him that the GP has disagreed with him and you would like proper treatment for your iron deficiency anaemia and will he prescribe or instruct your GP to.

[SlowDragon Administrator]

As you have Hashimoto's you really need to consider trying strictly gluten free diet.

Very many of us find it helps significantly

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