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[Batty1]

I made a post 16 days ago asking for your thought's on my labs. One of my labs 16 days ago came back as being Vitamin D deficient (Vitamin D: 27.4 ng/ml (Low) ….(30-100)

So I started supplementing with D3 and K2 (vitamin D 2000IU and activated K2 75mcg) daily for the past 13 days (missed 3 days). I just had another Vitamin D test today and it showed my Vitamin D level at 32 ng/ml (30-100) …. Is it possible to raise my vitamin D almost 5 points in 13 days????

I know this seems crazy but all my bloodwork has been coming back abnormal and my most recent CBC is actually locked down from me because of being abnormal so Im wondering what is going on or is it the 3 different labs that I had to do bloodwork with that could be messing up my blood test…. Its crazy and thanks in advance for giving me some insight.

[FallingInReverse]

26 to 31 - are you saying you had other Vit D data points that showed different at the same time (so you don’t trust the tests). Or, other tests that also showed that same increase ( you don’t believe it could change that quickly).

It doesn’t feel like a huge jump. You are still way deficient anyway… and I’d chalk it up to lab variables re margins of error. If you just started supplements, your body may indeed be responding before it settles. I don’t assume you’ve been out in the sun more than usual?

But here’s a calculator I love that Eeyore shared with me that took the mystery out of it all:

grassrootshealth.net/projec...

I’m just trying out the recommendation from it so will be interesting to see how close I get to the predicted outcome.

[Batty1 in reply to FallingInReverse]

I only had 2 vitamin D test one on January 3rd and the other test today …. Roughly a 5 point increase in 13 days (no sun exposure).

[FallingInReverse in reply to Batty1]

Well, I went from 56 to 47 in about 8 weeks with zero changes to my Vit D supplement dose and no more or less sunshine.

Obviously 8 weeks is a longer time but my point is that I did nothing different on the D I was taking so obviously other things impacted it. As with other things - lots impacts how quickly we respond, how well we absorb, and how things go up and down within a titration period.

Perhaps a lesson in why we shouldn’t take bloods more frequently than 6-8 weeks.

D is fairly stable but if you just added the supplement your body might see an initial boost at that 13 day mark as it gets used to all that unexpected new vitties available, other things might impact absorption. You are still deficient, so action plan remains the same anyway (unless the calculator helps you adjust your expectations.)

Ps - I might also add that 4 months before the 56 reading it was 80…and a year before that when I got diagnosed it was 27. I guess that 27 to 80 was the impact of starting Levo… I guess!

Moral of the story - none of this is a one-to-one impact. 5 point increase is less important than what it looks like in another month.

Also - what does this mean: “CBC is actually locked down“…?

[Batty1 in reply to FallingInReverse]

My bloods were a surprise yesterday and the vitamin D test was a shocker that she would even tested it at all …. I haven’t even taken the Vitamin D or K for the 3 days before this blood test… maybe Im just overthinking this and probably have screwed up lab test … I have a whole other panel that’s locked down from me because of its abnormal.

[Rosills1]

Take a look at vitamin D wiki and grassroots healthMany would say 2000iu is a small dose

Also people say to take K2 at a different time as they interfere with each other.

Also it is said that you needed magnesium and zinc as well

Good luck

[Batty1 in reply to Rosills1]

I know thats a low dose that’s why it’s strange it would bump up 5 points in 13 days and I did not know that D3 and K2 couldn’t be taken together actually don’t think I ever seen that being told to anyone on here… agh

[FallingInReverse in reply to Rosills1]

   Rosills1    Hidden    Batty1 D and K should indeed be taken together.

Vitamin D helps with the absorption of calcium, and Vitamin K2 activates a protein that directs that calcium to the bones and teeth, where it's needed, rather than allowing it to deposit/calcify in arteries and soft tissues.

So yes, take them together. Keep 4 hours on either side of your Levo. And if you are getting specific you could also make sure to take D/K along with a meal containing fat, as this can enhance absorption (since D is fat soluble.)

I have also looked into the impact of adding K on serum D levels in blood test results, and from what I found it doesn’t look like it will have an impact. Ie, same level of D, it just being used in different places.

Also, although there is little research, 100 mcg of K per day is typical, but I’ve also read that it’s 100 mcg PER 1000 ius of D.

Personally I am taking 7500 D plus 400 K. Many use the D/K combos which have their own mix.

It is not believed that you can take “too much” k, but also it’s acknowledged that there isn’t enough research to say one way or another.

[Batty1]

I haven’t changed my diet and haven’t been outside (crummy weather) and yes 2 different labs but the ranges are exactly the same for both labs …. I’m probably overthinking this whole thing.

[FallingInReverse]

Hi Hidden this might help with a better rule of thumb for D : )

grassrootshealth.net/projec...

[FallingInReverse]

Ah yes, we do eat a certain amount if K each day… I haven’t researched that part : )

[Batty1]

Don’t take biotin.