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So people do not notice my hyper vigilant state...if I'm looking at the table or my phone but yet keeping my focus on them, they can't notice me paying close attention to them?

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AnxiousSilver profile image
AnxiousSilver

I think "in general" most people make eye contact for 2 reasons:

1 - When they are in a conversation. (this could include actively listening to others people that are talking)

2 - To avoid bumping into each other when they are walking.

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There's probably other scenarios, but those 2 above in my opinion are probably the most common.

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EricJones in reply to AnxiousSilver

so do people notice my focus on them, if i'm not looking at them?

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AnxiousSilver in reply to EricJones

Really it comes down to if you are staring at them or not.

The longer you look at someone, the more likely they might notice.

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EricJones in reply to AnxiousSilver

but i'm not staring at them...im just focused on them through my peripheral vision...they cant notice that, correct?

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AnxiousSilver in reply to EricJones

I can't speak for everyone, most likely not.

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EricJones in reply to AnxiousSilver

well my body language moves when their body language moves...they cant figure out that i'm focused on them, if i move every time they move

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AnxiousSilver in reply to EricJones

"well my body language moves when their body language moves.."

Is it something that happens automatically like if somebody raises their hand, you would automatically raise your hand too?

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EricJones in reply to AnxiousSilver

haha no...thats mimicking...but if someone raised their hand i might flinch or move my body because of it

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AnxiousSilver in reply to EricJones

That may need a (better) professional diagnosis in order to give you the answer that you are looking for.

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Lucy2023 in reply to EricJones

Some people might pick up on your reactions to their movements, but those that pick up on it are most likely hypervigilant themselves and would probably understand your reactions.

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EricJones in reply to Lucy2023

Because to pick up on it you'd have to be very alert and on watch?

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Lucy2023 in reply to EricJones

Exactly 🙂

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Lucy2023 in reply to EricJones

One way to find out if people notice you focusing on them through peripheral vision is to ask a family member or friend to focus on you through peripheral vision and look at them to see if you notice them focusing on you.

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EricJones in reply to Lucy2023

That's clever. What to you think the answer would be...that I couldn't tell what they were looking at?

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Lucy2023 in reply to EricJones

Yes, I don't think you would be able to tell that they were focused on you.

Agora1 profile image
Agora1

Eric, everyone is so busy now a days in burying their head in their phones that seems

to be the norm. I on the other hand always put my ear buds on and listen to a relaxation

tape when sitting and waiting for a doctor's appt.

I tend to believe we all are a little nervous for different reasons. But I would say most

people are trying to hide by focusing on something else instead of the people around

them.

Now, as for jumping or moving around when someone else does, that's you over anxious

nervous system doing them. I think I've told you in the past, my body would just jump

forward while sitting. I would then cough and pretend that's what made me jolt.

When we eventually become calm within ourselves, this will no longer happen.

It's just a reflex of the nerves that does this. Others do not pay attention since they

are in the same "twilight" zone as us. Worrying about their own issues. :) xx

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EricJones in reply to Agora1

so no one notices my head jerking?

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Agora1 in reply to EricJones

Even if someone noticed it Eric, it wouldn't make any difference to them.

I was in a doctor's waiting room today and I purposely didn't pull out my

headphones. Why?? Because I wanted to see what other people were doing

in the room and how others may react.

The man in front of me was having some wheezing and moving his legs up

and down. His head was buried in his phone. I noticed it and then went on

to something else. Another woman came in looking for the lab and was given

directions by the receptionist. She never looked at anyone else but seemed

confused and went her way. Another woman who was there before I came

had a cast on her leg but again, her head buried in her phone.

I thought of you during this process and wanted to let you know that no

one really notices anything going on. They are all preoccupied with their

own lives. As for myself, I had no feelings or thoughts looking around

observing because not that I don't care but that their lives had nothing

to do with me. So instead, I did my breathing exercises and just used the

time to relax before my name was called.

I proved something to myself today in that what we tell you is the truth,

people just don't watch people like you think, that is, unless they are doing

a research like I was for you Eric. :) xx

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EricJones in reply to Agora1

Are you fine in social settings?

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Agora1 in reply to EricJones

Not really Eric but I've learned to become a different person when around people.

I use to be shy and introverted and through learning how to overcome this,

I became very outgoing as to who I am. The thing is sometimes it's best to

be more laid back and just observe. And that's what I did today.

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EricJones in reply to Agora1

So are you nervous around people or not ..because to be out going, seems the opposite of nervous around people

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Agora1 in reply to EricJones

Eric, I can actually be both if that makes sense. I literally could walk into a room and

be asked to speak in front of a group and be able to do it.

When sitting in a waiting room, I tend to keep a low profile because of my

being so outgoing. Once I open my mouth, people tend to gravitate and talk

with me, telling me their whole life history.

So I've learned that at times, I need to put my headphones on so as not to

be disturbed. That for me is hard to do.

EricJones profile image
EricJones in reply to Agora1

You're still describing the traits of an outgoing person

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Agora1 in reply to EricJones

Maybe I am. Maybe the shy person I once was becomes apparent when sitting in

a room of strangers. Not knowing where to look. I have always had people looking

at me once I became an adult. I use to get angry and wonder why are they staring

at me?? I could feel it and then when I looked up, they put their eyes down. No matter

where I went people were looking? I was very uncomfortable during those times.

Many times I wanted to go up to them and say "why don't you take a picture, it

lasts longer". Of course I didn't. I think it had to do with my insecurities, my up

bringing in being this perfect little girl.

It's pretty hard not to get an inferiority complex when you think and see that

people are looking.

So....I turned this around with the help of therapy and classes. I learned that

a smile could break the ice and not make me feel so insecure or nervous.

It's hard for me to describe Eric because I've worked very hard in becoming

who I am today. I think that is why I want so much to help you. Because, I once

was in your position. :) xx

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EricJones in reply to Agora1

Yeah but you come and go...one minute you're online the next gone for a day or two

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Agora1 in reply to EricJones

I'm signing off for tonight Eric...

My quiet time is coming up now.

Goodnight . :) xx

Sylvain- profile image
Sylvain- in reply to Agora1

"""I tend to believe we all are a little nervous for different reasons. But I would say most people are trying to hide by focusing on something else instead of the people around them."""

I would add many people are not even aware they are nervous and use coping mechanisms unconsciously.

In general, "we" have greater proprioception and self-awareness, either as a direct symptom of our mental condition or because we learned to, e.g., through cognitive behavioral therapy.

I am always amazed by the amount of information neurotypical people ignore or filter out of their consciousness.

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Weatherwoman in reply to Sylvain-

This is SO true & I can so relate. Especially, the part about "Neurotypical" people ignoring, or filtering out the "junk" out of their consciousness. I do believe that the majority of people just filter out the "Crap," that people who are "neurodivergent" pay Too much, WAY Too much attention to. And, that is why "we" get into trouble Worrying about what others may see, or think about us when in Reality, most people just are either on their phone (maybe "hiding"), or just really aren't paying attention to US! Simple fact, & have to remind myself of that!!!

Gandolfication profile image
Gandolfication

EricaJones, I have always wondered similar things.Like how much do people notice that? I'm almost always freaking out inside and trying to hide it?

Downinil profile image
Downinil

I’m wondering if meditation can help you refocus. It helps me so I’m hoping it might you if you haven’t already tried it.

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Agora1 in reply to Downinil

Breathing helps calm down the nervous system for sure :) xx

Kinlay profile image
Kinlay

My guess is that if you are looking down, they will notice. A better bet if eye contact is uncomfortable for you is to try looking over their shoulder, at their ear, or at their forehead or hairline or nose, so you are at least looking towards them. It's okay (and normal) to glance away, even down, but if you don't look at them at all, they may wonder why.

People tend to like having your attention and eye contact is one way they feel they have it. These points allow you to look towards them and focus in that direction without having to actually meet their eyes - although if you can glance at their eyes occasionally, that may be a goal to work towards. Hope this helps!

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EricJones in reply to Kinlay

i'm talking about when i'm sitting next to someone and no is looking at each other, can they tell if i'm focused on them.

Kinlay profile image
Kinlay

In that situation, only by whether or not you respond or comment. But looking over in their direction occasionally is still a good idea if possible.

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