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Last couple of weeks have been ok, but this weekend my anxieties have gone haywire. Being part of this world feels too hard sometimes, I just can't deal with all the animal abuse, it's always on the TV when you don't expect it, and I know that's just the tip of what goes on. Sometimes I just feel like I detest humans and it's so bad I don't even want to see one. It's everywhere in my face all the time and is as innocuous as someone eating a burger, cause it's not a burger, it was a living animal that had to endure pain and fear and agony and I feel like grabbing that burger or whatever it is and screaming at people, but I can't because they don't get it and don't give a .....Then it's donkeys worked till death, or elephants hunted or bear baiting, or bull fighting, or fox hunting or, well you get the point there is no end to the suffering humans inflict. So I have to live in this world and even though I know there are some people who care it's not enough.

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Starrlight

I hear you Willowbrooks. ❤️

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ruminating

Hi Willow, i havent seen you on here lately. Sorry youre feeling down. I totally understand how you feel about animals and how many people have no regard for them. I know that some care, but there needs to be much more awareness and change in this area, as animals have feelings too, and on top of that they are helpless beings relying on us to care for them. Same for children. They are like children. Seems there are so many selfish and cowardly narcissists out there. I try to focus on the people out there who care, and do whatever i can to help out, (i know that feels like a pebble in the ocean sometimes) but there needs to be so much improvement. Sometimes i have to change the channel if i see those commercials. Im not trying to ignore whats going on, but there are some days it seems like too much to bear. Im so glad the world has kind people in it like you. Im sending you wishes for a better day tomorrow. Have you been doing anything to keep busy? Im trying hard. Still battling depression. Supposed to go to choir practice tonight and im dreading going out in this cold gloomy weather here. Hugs and Prayers

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ruminating

Sometimes i get mad at God and even wonder if one exists when i see things like this. Why is there so much pain and suffering in the world? Do you ever feel that way? What do you tell your self if you do?

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hurtingheart1 in reply toruminating

I feel this way to I’d love to hear advice or thoughts on this as well -how do you not feel angry at God even if you do believe in him and that he has created amazing beautiful things but why is it soo hard and confusing????

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ruminating in reply tohurtingheart1

Hi hurtingheart1, I wish i had the answer to that question. Yes it is very confusing that God would create such beauty but on the other hand allow pain and suffering. I dont necessarily believe everything is the way the bible says it is, but i pray there is a God and higher power. I hope he/she, has a plan and a reason for this lol. I try to do my best to do my part to be a good person, but feel so small sometimes. You are not alone in how you feel about things if that helps and its nice to know there are people out there like you.

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hurtingheart1 in reply toruminating

Thank you soo much for your reply yes I feel same good to know there are ppl out there like you as well who understand or feel similar!!💕🌼🌻🌸🦋

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ruminating in reply tohurtingheart1

Your welcome and nice meeting you also.

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hurtingheart1 in reply toruminating

I also know it’s important to try & grow to do your part in being a kind & caring person! I just get very confused and it’s soo painful sometimes trying to make sense out of it!! And I just pray also that God will help ones who do care to atleast have peace and hope about things!!

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Willowbrooks in reply tohurtingheart1

Hi. I don't believe in God, I think if there was a god that God would stop the suffering. People use religion for all number of injustices, and who's to say who's god is the right one. I believe in humans being responsible for their own actions and their own conscience. We are here on this planet in the same way an ant is, we are not special but an accident of nature that happened to unfortunately give us a thumb and the ability to stand, and by doing so set off the destruction of this planet. Though with the number of galaxies out there and trillions of planets and stars and Suns no doubt there are or have been complex life before or will be. Sorry to be so blunt but that's my view and we are responsible for our own actions not Eve eating an Apple. As you can tell not feeling too good today. X

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ruminating in reply toWillowbrooks

i have times where i wonder if there is a god also. If so then why would all this bad stuff go on? I hope there is something out there for us, after life here. That thought makes me feel very down. I agree with you that people need to be responsible for their own behavior no matter what.

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hypercat54 in reply tohurtingheart1

Hi I agree with you and I hate animal cruelty of all kinds. All you can do is as much as you can is to support the cause and encourage others to.

I stopped eating meat many moons ago because of animal cruelty. I also never buy anything made out of animal skin eg leather or fur.

Now I have retired I also volunteer in an animal charity shop. x

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Willowbrooks in reply tohypercat54

I watched a programme yesterday that showed a company (one of many popping up) who grow meat from animal cells, it's clean, uses 5 times less water to produce, 100 times less land, no antibiotics and the future will be they can grow anything practically, muscles as well. It will be a revolution and if I was going to invest that's where my money would go. Imagine a world where rainforests didn't need to be cleared, or trillions of animals killed. Currently feeding 1 person meat with everything it takes to feed and raise that animal would feed 100 people.

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Willowbrooks in reply tohypercat54

Hi. Thanks for your message. When I can I like to read a bit about who's replied to me and can tell you are finding things hard. It is a struggle and I get that it can feel like you just want it to stop and that would be easier. I've had two people in my life take that final step and it still affects me now. On the times I feel really low I hold on because I know there will be other times and days I'm so glad I did. Even when I'm at my lowest there are things in life that can make me smile, yes it's usually an animal, it can be going for a walk in a nature area and just closing my eyes and listening to the bird song, it's amazing how different and clear it sounds when you close your eyes. I hope you have some things however small you love. It reminds me of the song from the Sound of Music so have copied below. X

Raindrops on roses

And whiskers on kittens

Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens

Brown paper packages tied up with strings

These are a few of my favorite things

Cream-colored ponies and crisp apple strudels

Doorbells and sleigh bells

And schnitzel with noodles

Wild geese that fly with the moon on their wings

These are a few of my favorite things

Girls in white dresses with blue satin sashes

Snowflakes that stay on my nose and eyelashes

Silver-white winters that melt into springs

These are a few of my favorite things

When the dog bites

When the bee stings

When I'm feeling sad

I simply remember my favorite things

And then I don't feel so bad.

ruminating profile image
ruminating in reply tohurtingheart1

i hear ya, i get confused also. Your not alone. I will pray for hope and peace for you.

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hurtingheart1 in reply toruminating

Is there anyone on here that does believe in God and could share there thoughts on this I also believe we were created by design not an accident! I just struggle how to see things from a different perspective of more hope- I don’t even know how to word this hope it makes sense??

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Willowbrooks in reply tohurtingheart1

Normally I am more positive, but just struggling today which is why I posted, not to get into a God debate. It might be worth putting out a post to people who are believers in God. I do understand a lot of people do, and if they get something from that and it has a positive effect on their life and the life of others then that's good, but that's not the impact I see Religion having around the world. So that's the last I'm saying on religion.

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ruminating in reply toWillowbrooks

No i dont want to debate. Just wanted to see your viewpoint on things cause i am not sure. Yes there are alot of people out there who say they are religious without having a positive impact on the world. Sorry you are struggling today. Sending hugs

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Willowbrooks in reply toruminating

Hi. Thanks for your reply, and don't mean to cause any offence about religion, we all have things we believe in and I respect others views. Just had a tough day and feeling upset and unable to change all the things I want to change and know I can't. I loved my dog and made sure she had care and love and good quality food and went to the vet and had walks and was never put in kennels and I changed my job to be with her and on and on, and then a story comes on about puppy farming and pups who had their vocal cords cut so they couldn't bark and what do I do with that, how do I cope with that. I know what I want to do, and given the opportunity would but I don't get that option so I'm left with a mix inside of anger and hate and incapacitation, and that's just one thing of many. Sometimes I just don't want to deal with it all anymore. :-(

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hurtingheart1 in reply toWillowbrooks

I’m so sorry for you pain I’m having that today to so I’m empathetic also I don’t think there’s any debate just ppl here sharing thoughts and feelings so no worries just say what you need to -that’s what I’m doin I’m sincere and my questions are heartfelt and sincere and I really truly want to knw cause maybe there are some out there that can share the peace and hope they’ve found maybe it can help to ease some of others of us pain 😔😫🤔

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ruminating in reply toWillowbrooks

willow, Believe me i understand. I feel the same way. I love animals more than alot of people. I like all your ideas about investing in other ways to produce(grow) meat. They can also make hamburgers etc made out of plants that taste the same as meat, but you know the meat industry would lose alot of money. Jack a*****es. I go out of my way for my dog too. She spoiled beyond belief. Shes really old now and near the end of her life. I dread it, cause shes my baby. So when i see those commercials it is heart wrenching and unbelievable to me how heartless some people are. I totally relate to how you feel about it.

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Willowbrooks in reply toruminating

Hi R. Thanks for your support, I think we think very similarly about things and you have a good 💓. So sorry your dog is older etc, I know how hard it is watching them knowing they are going downhill, my thoughts are with you and I wish you strength when you will need it most. Whenever that may be I'll be here. It's two months now since I lost my lovely dog and I still miss her terribly, but am coping better than in the first month. Best wishes W.

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ruminating in reply toWillowbrooks

Hi Willow, Yes we do think very similarly about animals and animal rights. Thank you immensely for your comments and support re: my dog. Its been grueling this past two years dealing with her medical problem. Both emotionally and financially. I'm sure its been contributing to my depression getting worse, but i didn't think it was time yet to put her down. And wouldn't do it differently, as i love and am committed to her. Im so very sorry you lost your precious doggie, just recently. I'm sure your hearts been hurting. I'm glad you are starting to feel a little better with time. My heart goes out to you. Thanks for caring and your support. I appreciate much. Hope your day is going better than yesterday. Chat soon.

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Willowbrooks

It does help to let out how you feel on here, maybe I could do with something similar that's animal focussed because it's what affects me the most and believe it or not what I write here is a filtered view because I realise not everyone feels as I do, even though everyone is very kind. Thanks for everyone's replies.

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Sostakovic

Watch TV a lot less. Mix with humans a lot more. Go out into the world, and do whatever you can to help those in need. Humans or animals. Humans suffer too.

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Willowbrooks in reply toSostakovic

Thank you for your reply. I do not like to see any suffering, and it's shocking that humans inflict suffering on humans, so therein lies the problem. So not particularly wishing to mix more than I have to with man, and I know that to some may not sound very friendly but I'd rather spend a day with an animal than an hour with a human. As I say a lot of people may not understand how things affect me, and it's not something I can help or change, it's just how I've always been from age 10 when I understood for the first time that I was eating an animal and all that entailed. I do what I can do, but what affects me is the little impact I can make. I'm not on here trying to change hearts and minds, 40 years on I realise how futile that is. I'm here because I just wanted somewhere to let out how I feel, without judgement or even with all the best intentions given advice on what I should or could do. I would love a world where people care about people and animals, wishful thinking.

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neon500

I find your post really interesting. I too have problems with the rest of the world's behaviour. It drives me mad that I just don't get why people react the way they do to things. The news and charity adverts are especially triggers for me.

My issue though is exactly the opposite of yours though. I don't get why people think animal cruelty is a thing, why they care about the death of people they have never met, let alone know, why death is such a taboo topic, why....lots of other why's. No one has ever been able to give me a logical rational explanation for why animal welfare is needed, why it's wrong to satire the deaths at Grenfell (big fire in the UK). I really annoyed lots of people on a forum the other day by saying cause of death should be legally included in death notices. Apparently that's insensitive. Still don't get why. To me that's just a logical thing to do.

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Willowbrooks in reply toneon500

I am very sorry but I do not have the necessary psychological qualifications and years of experience in order to be able to adequately help you with 'your issue'. However, reading up and trying to understand the deeper meaning in the word 'empathy' might be a good starting point.

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neon500 in reply toWillowbrooks

I know what empathy is. I do pretty well in empathy tests as well. I also know the difference between emotional reactions and logic.

I'm going to leave it there as I don't want to upset you further. I don't think we'd ever agree.

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