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I woke up so depressed and thought what can I possibly do with all the defeating thoughts and feelings to pull away from the sadness mixed with anxiety.

*I thought we could make a list adding things that help us out of depression:*

-Don’t listen to the lies that pop in your mind telling you mean things like you are not good enough...don’t break your own heart; replace it with something positive💜

-Don’t believe you will always feel this sad, it comes in waves and after every difficulty comes ease... ❤️

-Do the things that will make your space happier... declutter, sweep, hang up art, place candles and plants around... ❤️

-Focus on your blessings if you can 💗

-Recall your strengths and accomplishments throughout your life ♥️

-get out and walk in nature if you can ❤️

-connect with someone 💜

-rest 💗

Sometimes I think we can’t do many of these things, but if we can somehow get to a point where we can try one thing it might help to pull a bit away from the depression

I’m still stuck in depression but I have written out at least things I can try so at least I’m trying...

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I was breaking away from depression... now I have more problems piling up for today. Plus I’m sick. I’m so tired of trying so hard. I give up; I’ll be depressed I guess.

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lillyofthevalley37 in reply to Starrlight

Sometimes you resign yourself to it and just battle on , make sure you have some nice cups of tea if you are poorly

I have honey in mine roobis redbush is my favourite

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Starrlight in reply to lillyofthevalley37

In the process of getting kids tablets connected to printer... stressful... I’m sick and stressed and beating myself up today and not sure how to stop.

Your tea sounds good. I have some passionflower, kava and lemon balm teas but right now im having coffee thinking it might lift me up I hope I don’t get more anxious as I rarely drink coffee.

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courageovercomfort in reply to Starrlight

Ugh! I hate technology and feel dumb for not being able to do what I feel others can do effortlessly. I think when my kid is involved and I’m really beat down by depression, it makes it worse bc you have no energy to fight. Even though you know you “should”.

Hang in there!!! You are not alone.

P.S. I had to give up caffeine some years back bc my body could no longer tolerate it. Threw my anxiety through the roof 😔 Sometimes I miss the pick me up.

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Starrlight in reply to courageovercomfort

I don’t know if I should fight or let it run it’s course. Im exhausted. Every little thing bothers me.

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courageovercomfort in reply to Starrlight

I know exactly what you mean. You want to fight, but have no energy. And you feel guilty for both. Maybe a combination of surrender for a while....then fight for a while?

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Starrlight in reply to courageovercomfort

Thanks for your understanding. I have been fighting and surrendering back and forth today. I hate the unknown. I am trying to find present moments of peace and joy in all of this mess.

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Ddorne in reply to Starrlight

I woke up feeling this way too. Anxious and depressed. Just moving helps me some. I felt ok last night and now I’m not. I will try to get out.

Liti

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Starrlight in reply to Ddorne

Me too. Let’s both get out together.

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lovetodance2018 in reply to Starrlight

Stay strong. I know you can do it. I say let it run it's course. Remember you will feel better. That is what I keep telling myself when the anxiety and depression come back. This month so far I had only two days of anxiety and depression. I have really been praying and not allowing myself to accept defeat. I am believing I can and will feel better. That seemed to really help me. My prayers are with you sweet friend. Hugs!

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Starrlight in reply to lovetodance2018

I’m happy for you and it brings me hope that it may actually get better. I’ve been praying but still have to really believe...

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LoveBear in reply to Starrlight

I hear you - you’re not alone I wish I had answers

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lillyofthevalley37 in reply to Starrlight

Don't beat yourself up it isn't helpful you need support not criticism

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Starrlight in reply to lillyofthevalley37

I find it hard not to when I have depression. maybe I need to retrain my brain

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Timmypliskin in reply to lillyofthevalley37

It certainly makes it much harder when your not feeling well... and trying to do daily tasks as well

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Pieborn in reply to Starrlight

Life sure is full of ups and downs. You are a star on the horizon, ready to rise. There was just one dark tree in the way. You will rise up. Take a deep breath, you are worth it. God don't make no junk!

Oh no this is so not acceptable... I'm so sorry you're feeling this way... as you know I have watched the ups & downs of what you're fighting... I really do feel for you...dang I need the magic wand..how much fun it would be to fly all around helping loved ones out....hang on tight and don't let go.... this will pass...we'll think positive for you.

Sparkles & dump trucks Sis... I love you!

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I know you have seen this before... it hurts so badly and I am in tears. I just can’t keep this shit up.

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You know I'm here for you and always will be... how I want to help you...is there anything I can do? I'm crying right along with you, how could I not be when I hear this?

I love you!

Sparkles & dump trucks Sis...

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Sis thanks for being here for me. ❤️ you’re always helpful because you’re presence is caring, warm, up lifting. I am hoping I will uplift you too at times. Are you feeling better since you were having trouble? You are amazing and deserve so much goodness and as the hawk guides us I wish good things coming to us soon.

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It's sad you don't realize how wonderful, beautiful, fabulous and amazing you are.. one day that wish will come true for me.. I'm so so grateful for you and yes you always lift my spirits...you'll never be rid of me.. I love you too much for that...

You are a true GEM!

Sparkles & dump trucks Sister!

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Love this Starrlight! I’m so loving this list. I’ve found action is such a powerful tool and you’ve listed many! Even rest is an action 💕

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Starrlight in reply to courageovercomfort

Thanks for the positivity toward my words. I haven’t been doing much of the list though, I’m in too deep I think. I wish I could just be without all the intrusive thoughts ruining my life. I don’t know what is real and what are lies of depression and anxiety. It’s like I cant see straight and need wisdom to figure out what is true, what I can change, how, and what I need to realize are not true in my beliefs.

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courageovercomfort in reply to Starrlight

I understand. Sometimes we just press on to the best of our ability. I have to be super gentle and self compassionate when my depression or anxiety attacks. Easier said than done. Know the depression is lying to you. I usually reach out to friends/family and speak my truth. I love the serenity prayer and sometimes just recite that. I also say to myself “You’re doing a really great job”

I like to make a list of tasks I’ve done. 🥰

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Starrlight in reply to courageovercomfort

Your words help me. I will try suggestions. I will try being gentle as much as I can. I will keep in mind depression is lying. I just told my husband how I am and he promised to help clean when he gets home which will lighten and brighten me. I will tell myself I am amazing and work on believing it. ❤️

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Ur husband must lovev and treasure

U

U deserve each other

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Yes thank you Brig!

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skidrew in reply to Starrlight

Maybe a short gratitude list will help. I don’t have a partner anymore. No pets, kid in college so I’m alone fighting thru this depression. It was 35 years ago I experienced a depression this bad. You’re way ahead of the game with support.

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Starrlight in reply to skidrew

Skidrew you are amazing. I’ll try a gratitude list thank you! 🙏 😊 I will be wishing you well. Stay strong.

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courageovercomfort in reply to Starrlight

I too will do a gratitude list! 🙏🏼

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courageovercomfort in reply to Starrlight

Look at you speaking your truth and asking for help. It is brave and courageous to do both. Especially when you’re feeling so low. I don’t think depression has ever told me one true thing. Ever.

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Starrlight in reply to courageovercomfort

Thanks but I don’t feel brave or courageous I feel weak and afraid. I feel like I’m in a pit and am being tortured and I can’t see out to the top where the sun and flowers are... what did I do to deserve it maybe I need to prepare for the next life and this is a lesson in the journey.

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courageovercomfort in reply to Starrlight

It’s often when we feel despair that we are being brave and courageous by continuing to fight. Continuing to speak our truth.

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Starrlight in reply to courageovercomfort

True I can see it that way. Thank you 🙏 soooo much Courageovercomfort

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🥰

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🥰

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courageovercomfort in reply to Starrlight

Passing along all that has been said to me. And also what I need to hear :)

Ur list helps

Please know u make a difference

And u are surrounded by hundreds who

Love and value u

US!!!

U make a difference for us everyday heather u know it or not just u being there

Gods truth

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Thank you Brig57 I appreciate you. May God bless you.

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Wonderful ideas, my friend. Thanks for sharing

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lovetodance2018

This is so encouraging Starrlight. I know sharing on this group, reaching out to others who understand the struggles with depression and anxiety really help me during my depressive episodes. You are an encouragement to me that you share ways to cope during those tough days. Continue to be praying for you. And remember depression is not who you are but what you go through. Hugs

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Starrlight in reply to lovetodance2018

True it’s not who we are but what we use our strength against to endure throughout. Some days we feel so weak from it. You encourage me too to keep grabbing onto hope. How are you today?

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lovetodance2018 in reply to Starrlight

Praise God I only had two bad days 🤗this month during my cycle. I continue to pray for healing and read the Bible. I also take time in my day to do things that I enjoy and let them in my routine even on my bad days. So thankful that we are here to support each other.

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Starrlight in reply to lovetodance2018

That’s good. Yes im grateful for this site too. And I’ve been praying more lately.

Great pointers to help people with depression. I find naughty comfort food helps . Chocolate, and green tea. Both contain caffeine which can give a lift. I don't drink alcohol as

it can thin the blood and burn a hole in your stomach. If I do I eat when I have a celebratory

glass. Blaming everyone else and swearing is a great way of releasing negative thoughts out of earshot of people!

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Oh yes! Swearing is fun. 😉 And screaming in the car on the highway is a good release too.

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Yep ..we are too inhibited we aren't allowed to let go. If we do we will be in a different place either a police cell or a mental health unit..I do think there is something in the

menopause mood swing. Women suffer in silence not realising their mood cycles are cyclical mid month and before a period. How do women have all this suffering with no hormone tests available just a ticket for mental health drugs..though I know the trauma in peoples lives are a major cause of some mental health issues. Think women need a multi team approach.

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I think I’m going through menopause and I should get to a doc and learn more about it.

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Yes it would be helpful My daughter is going through it, I had an early menopause in my thirties. I had to have an op. I had post operative depression with thyroid disorder but no one understood in the area I lived in it was the menopause. You are right to go to a gynaecologist and get tests to know how far you are into the menopause. Friends have been on progesterone hormone and after a few weeks feel much better. Its knowing if you are oestrogen or progesterone dominant but other symptoms can cause heavy periods and fibroids. We women are half the population but are not treated as equals with health care for women! Must get back to my swearing and dusting..no depression with mood swings but do get anxious with multi problems with kids and family..am sure you may find advice and treatment will help.

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I have a fear of going to obgyn and I think I’ve been going through menopause for around a year now. My periods are much lighter and I’m 43

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There are some good articles about it, how HRT can help.

If you are round and over weight you are moer likely to be oestrogen dominant,- if you are thinner, you might be more progesterone dominant. We have gone backwards in this country over HRT as men are in charge and say it is expensive

but have done no research into the hormone therapy levels..they are men and are not affected. Ha!

Your female doctor should be able to advise you. There are natural ways to help using phystroestrogen, (soy)which is plant based, to increase oestrogen levels, or special creams you can use to enhance progesterone such as Wellsprings advertised. Know people who have benefited from progesterone creams. on line. You ar still young,. My daughter has had it for over seven years now and she is 50 but has not recognised it.

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wildturmeric.net/progestero....

Foods that encourage progesterone are 1 zinc , 2 vitamin B6, Estrogen dominance can lead to vitamin B6 depletion as it is involved in oestrogen . 3 vitamin C.

howtoadult.com/can-certain-....

L-Arginine and Vitamin E were found to improve progesterone levels in 67 percent of Japanese women in a survey. In the Journal of Ovarian research showed that women taking vitamin E had improved luteal phase progesterone levels. 71 percent

of those taking l arginine showed an improvement.

Vitamin E can be readily found in coconut oil, which is made from the kernel not the flesh. Other sources are sunflower seeds,almonds hazelnuts and peanut butter. You can find it in

sunflower margarine. Fermented soy helps the progesterone levels increase during menopause and post menopause. Non fermented soy in soy beans, edame beans, can help progesterone levels as can water melon. Sweet potato is another food recommended.

L: Arginine is found in protein foods

turkey, pork, loin, chicken ,pumpkin,seeds,soybeans, chickpeas,lentils, spirulina, peanuts, ham . healthline.com

10 healthy high arginine foods.

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Estrogen dominance diet :The 21 foods vital to reversing estrogen dominance

https ://happymammoth.co/estrogen-dominance-diet

vegetable oils rape seed oil canola with high levels of saturated fats and fatty acids, and fatty acids and having too much of these Fatty acids can throw off your natural hormones.

Dairy- non organic meats- gluten products- wheat, rye, barley and alcohol are major disruptors of hormones if you have too much.

I was eating three pounds of cheese a week at one stage but have cut it down to about an ounce a day.

alcohol . Recommendations are to eat red grapes, broccoli

sprouts brassica vegetables increase omega 3 fatty acids rosemary green tea and filtered water.

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anna.blog.wellsprings-healt...

Wellspring Natural hormone health|Anna Rushton\'s blog

Anne A Rushton is co-author of the book natural progesterone\and writer on women\'s health.

Articles February 2020 from Anne Rushton:-

February 28 2020 surprising depression triggers as you age

perimenopause and periods what you can expect February 24 2020 .

Really up to date articles which might help.

The cream might be helpful made from natural progesterone

"Wellsprings Serenity" cream effective for hot flushes hormonal weight gain - you need a quarter of a teaspoon of cream rubbed

over the first month over skin then an eighth . When you have used the first jar, you can find out if you feel better with the cream. Worth a try?

Yes you are sweet lady💜💜💜

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❤️

Starrlight I continue to pray for you..

I know you are stronger then you think that's why your in this group . .

I hope you feel better soon

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Thanks. How are you?

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I'm doing okay.. but even if things ain't better I know soon theyll be for the all of us🙏💯

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Good 😊 That’s true that things do get better ... for me right now I am messing up but I am determined to make things better.

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Same here starrlight. Let's just keep.movin foward

I realy care about you especially when you speak of giving up. We all have our good days and our not so good days.

But we all here for you.

Stay strong , we mess up all the time because were not perfect but we learn and pick up where we left off.

Have a great day starrlight.

Dolphin will comment next🙏

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I didn’t see this until now. Thank you so much for your kind words, amazing you! I’m in such a bad lace but I managed to go on the trampoline and picnic with my kids. It helped but I’m still way down . How are you doing?

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