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The Administration just sent me a long paragraph saying my post was deleted because I can’t talk

About religious but people on and talk about worse stuff than religion and do the Administrator delete

They post guess somebody reported me but am

Sorry not going to talk about religion no more

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And I didn’t talk about religion I just said thank u God I never said if I was religious or nothing like that am feeling a little better and here comes the devil trying to take my joy am wondering can I say devil wow!

I'm assuming religion is a no-no because the website aims to help people from a scientific (sort of) place, and it's quite obvious that prayer doesn't cure anxiety - if it did, you wouldn't be here. Religious people put everything in the hands of a god or gods, so it sort of negates any meaningful discussion. If you believe everything is fate and pre-determined, then what would be the point of doing anything about anything?

EXAMPLE: a forum for comparing prices of gifts. If you believe in Santa and that Santa provides all the gifts, then what could you meaningfully contribute to a site about buying gifts? Your response to everything would be "Don't worry, it's free! Santa will bring it if you wish hard enough!"

Another reason may be that it annoys or triggers people. It definitely annoys me, personally. Any discussion of religion or god puts me in a very bad mood, and I suspect I'm not alone in that regard. It actually gives me anxiety, when I consider how most of the world still believes in religious teachings. It's a trigger for me, and a big one. It makes me feel helpless and disconnected that after all these years, and humans evolving, and the information at our disposal, and the clear disadvantages and hardships of being affiliated with religions (from arranged marriages, to lack of rights for women, to gay-bashing, to just general ignorance and intolerance)...that people, in TWENTY EIGHTEEN for crying out loud, are still wrapped up in this crap.

And on top of it, I'M painted as the intolerant jerk for not accepting others' beliefs. It's NOT harmless, and I should not have to put up with it. What if I believe that 1 child a month should be ritually sacrificed to appease the corn gods? Are you ok with that? I'll say "well it won't be YOUR child, so it's none of your business. People at my church are willing to donate children for the sacrifice so leave us alone." Are you going to leave us alone? Not if you are a decent human being you won't. Apathy is the worst trait to have.

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While sorry not going to talk nothing about a higher power again. But is more than higher that tigger people I get tigger about a lot of things on this site guess if I said devil it was make it right ok I get it thank u

Where are you from?

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Detroit Michigan

Oh really? I live like 2 hours away (Hamilton, ON)

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Yes really

I thought maybe you were in Haiti or Brazil or something.

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Why??? 😅😂🤣

...no reason... 🤭

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Really???

You type like a foreigner, that's all I meant - I assumed you were from some place further than 2 hours from me. Lol

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Haiti 🇭🇹!!!! No

I see what you’re saying man and I’m sorry that you feel that way. But there are those who do not intend to make people feel judged ? Maybe those are the comments you read before? Those are not true believers in Christ. No one, I MEAN NO ONE should be judging anyone for who they are and what they do. Those are not religious people. I get it though, this is more of scientific method of a website than obviously a religious one. But for me, that isn’t going stop me from proclaiming my faith and for what God as done for me in my life. I’m on here just like the rest of us, trying to cope with these feelings of symptoms I get. I’m not trying to change anyone’s beliefs. I’m not on here for that However if I can help someone for which medicine may not be able to, then I will use what I know and that’s prayer.

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I get what u saying but am done with it I will let it be people on here want to be sad because I sent post all morning about positive things to try to help people and no body respond but so as I say hey am alcoholic or am depressed or am having a panic attack people here to support me when I say am happy after being depressed for months wasn’t able to get off my couch to go outside nobody said congrats am happy for u

I'm sorry you've had that experience, but I find myself taking mental notes of who's religious on here and somewhat limiting my interaction with them. The reason (in my case) is I know religion triggers me to be condescending and confrontational and I don't want to lash out at someone and ruin their day. I wish just as much good stuff for you as anyone else, and I mean that. But if I have to suffer through "thank you so much Jesus for this blessed salad" it ruins MY day, so I just stay away from it.

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I apologize u want see it from me no more this site is a joke. If I was talking about the devil or talking about killing myself or talking about being depressed I have all the support in the world once am happy

I get a letter from the Administrator saying I said G to many times and nobody never said wow u feeling better that great while am not here to judge no more I don’t care what nobody believes in they can worship a car all I car is non of my business long time I check it was freedom of speech people act like they so scared of having panic attacks anxiety heart attacks but when they hear G they get tigger ok am done talking about it thank u

This site absolutely is not a joke, and frankly the fact that you think devil worship is the default antithesis to belief in god shows me how brainwashed you really are. I don't believe in the devil any more than I believe in Abrahamic depictions of gods or angels or anything else. I'm just a good person, end of sentence. I don't do drugs or make pentagrams on the walls in my blood, or carry on with prostitutes, or whatever else you think non-religious people do. I just don't care about religion because I think it's silly. The sooner you realize that devotion to god doesn't make you a better person, the better off you'll be.

As to your other point, yes, people who say they are about to kill themselves do get a lot of replies, and yes, I absolutely agree that the "I'm feeling better" threads get less. I REALLY don't think that's about people not caring about you at all. I suspect that if I wrote a post like that it would get very little attention too. This is not supposed to be a popularity contest like Facebook, where people are hung up on how many Likes they get. If you need help, I'm sure people will be there for you. Please don't be jealous of suicidal people getting more comments. Don't forget that some of them are attention seeking and would never actually do it, but it's a strange situation because you can never be sure...so the safe thing is to talk them down regardless. I think suicide needs to be looked at completely in another category in that sense.

Finally, please don't get frustrated with the site if it helps you sometimes. I'm willing to put our differences aside and will make a conscious effort to reply to your posts and be helpful toward you anytime I can. You deserve to be happy too. Maybe just keep the god stuff for your friends and family and stick to mental health when you're on this site. I think that will help a lot. You can just be "a person" sometimes, without having to be a Christian.

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Brainwashed u don’t even know me. So whatever all u know I post on here u don’t any know if I really believe in anything and am definitely not jealous of suicidal people that sounds crazy 😜 and I don’t even use Facebook all am saying is people should want to know that bad days is not forever and good days do come all that extra stuff thank u for the information and thank u for your view on things and u can’t tell me what to do but like I said before I apologize to everyone because there is sick peoples on here and they do need help so I want talk about that subject no more and am not here to judge nobody goodbye have a nice day

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You seem nice, and I want you to know I don't hate religious PEOPLE - though I may hate their actions from time to time, especially when it means they abuse their religion to take advantage of others (financially, sexually, etc), which sadly happens a lot. I also hate non-religious peoples' actions very often too, so I'm not singling anyone out here.

And when I say religious people I just mean anyone who calls themselves Christian, Muslim, Hindu, whatever - I'm not distinguishing between "real Christians" and people who call themselves Christian. I hear that a lot. Any time someone who is Christian does something another Christian doesn't like, that other guy isn't a "true" Christian. For me they are all the same, even though obviously some are better people than others.

What you have to remember is this is about upbringing and geological location. If your parents had given birth to you in Pakistan, you may be on here saying how the Quran is the best book in the world. If you were born in the Netherlands, you'd probably feel the way I do that religion is basically ridiculous. I find it offensive, but I understand how you wouldn't be able to see it from my perspective. I'm sure you can't imagine how talking about Jesus could be offensive, when you think he's the greatest thing in the history of the known universe. To me, Jesus is the Easter Bunny, Batman...the Tooth Fairy. I'm sure you can appreciate that from my perspective, an adult believing in such things is both sad and scary. I do understand though that it's all you've known, and in the case of Muslims many believe because they're terrified not to.

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Isaiah 12:4 my dear

Always proclaim his name.

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The Administrator said I can’t post anything about religion or God

I just wrote to the ADAA. You’re fine. Don’t let this discourage you from proclaiming Gods name for the devil only comes to kill, steal and destroy.

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I not going to talk about a higher power no more clearly people don’t want to hear about it because it tigger them but is a lot of stuff on here that tigger people and is just not religion

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Don’t let them control your feelings towards what you want to say.

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I don’t want to block off the site because I think he blocked me yesterday so I will let them be if they don’t want to get better that then but don’t come help me when am depressed and when am happy u run away

Pray. Have a good day.

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Thank u am not going to let nobody take my Joy am going to be ok and I have a good day

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Many have suffered in the name of religion so that makes it a touchy subject

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Who talk about religion I use a name or should I say higher power

Well when one says God. It's assumed. What if I went around the site saying praise allah? I'm not but I'm sure you'd be uncomfortable and assume I was a Muslim

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I wouldn’t be, I talk to people who don’t believe in God and is somebody on another app believe in the devil whatever your belief system is I don’t care if u worship a car am not here judge no body

I just see how the site is setup so is ok to talk about the devil and killing yourself and all other stuff I read daily on here like I said I apologize to everyone

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We should all have free speech, for or against God. It is very non democratic to limit freedom of speech.

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Right am done

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I'm sorry but there are worse things on here than religion! Some people find comfort in there religion so find it easier to express them selves in this way! It's a pity that one complaint condemns someone's post to the sin bin! I believe that religion has a place on here and stifling it will be a back ward step the mods would be better finding a happy balance that would allow a certain amount of religious post and take steps only if it becomes a problem and I don't mean one complaint from someone who isn't religious! Take care everyone 🙏

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Thank you

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Please stay tamka. I can tell you have a heart of gold and i'm so glad you're doing better nowadays. It can be disheartening when people don't reply I know ; the people who are feeling desperate often do get a lot more replies than the "happy" posts but I guess that's because their posts trigger our "rescue" instincts. I know for me when someone is suicidal I try as hard as I can to stop them as I have been in that place and recovered to live a happier life, so I do tend to respond to those sorts of posts. But equally I am genuinely so happy to hear when someone is up. So well done you for feeling a little better. You deserve it xxxx

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Am depressed now and my body hurts it was good while it last

Aw... that's a shame Tamka; there will be ups and downs . I am proud of you what you are doing. Stick with it my friend. x

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Thank u

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Satan has his methods. He wants to keep people from hearing the GOOD news about Jesus. To accomplish this he prevents people from hearing, seeing, blinds them, takes away His written word once they have read it and or heard it, and has them falsely trust in something apart from Christ and His gospel. This is his strategy to keep people from hearing and believing the truth about Christ. Satan knows his time is short before Jesus returns, so he will try everything he can to manipulate and destroy, Stay STRONG in God's word every day, Have a blessed day filled with God's love and promises. Hugs and much LOVE to you. ♥️♥️♥️♥️

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Awwww thank you u but am going to just come here to share how depressed I am and how anxious I am don’t nobody want to hear how happy am becoming this is the wrong site for that B.S. this site is for people who are hurting with mental illness and who believe they going to be that why for ever am just going to do what works for me and not judge nobody and mind my own business because this site is to much for me now people be on here all day posting things that tigger me but is ok because they didn’t use the G work ok

Please don't go tamka. I like you and would miss your posts if you left. This will all die down soon and the site will be back to normal. Hugs xxx

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Thank you

That was definitely an interesting read.

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o2G2o, you say religion offends and upsets you and that you are making a list of people who believe in God so as to limit your interaction with them.

Will you please put me on your list as I believe in God and may let it slip on occasions.

I suggest that in democratic countries everyone has a DUTY to be tolerant of other people with beliefs that you do not agree with. But alas I see no evidence of that in your posts which refer to people of faith as "wrapped up in that crap."

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I didn’t mean to upset people this morning I was happy and feeling good and I use a word that tigger a lot of people on here and nobody responded to me at all so I know now that they was piss off but I also post other great things and even talk about how happy I was but nobody want to know how happy you’re they just want to know how depressed you’re and o2G2o talking about am jealous of suicide people and am like u crazy guess I will keep my happiness to myself

I've read many of your posts and think that you're one of the most helpful individuals on the whole site. There's a funny (hypocritical) thing about Christians though - and please forgive me for painting with such a broad brush - which is that total belief in Christianity means believing that people such as myself go to a fiery hell for eternity. It creates a weird premise for conversation, because you're trying to help me (for example), but deep down you're thinking "this is so weeeird, guy's going to helllllllll, why am I bothering to hellllp hiiim...this is kinda strange, talking to this guyyyy, going to hell, doodledeedoooooo..."

It reminds me of this girl I was chatting with for a while. Her parents were ultra-mega Christian and she was atheist. She said her mom accepted her beliefs. I found that odd. "So your mom believes in her heart of hearts that her only child is going to burn alongside Satan in a fiery pit of torture and lava, and she's 'cool with it'?" How does that work?

I don't understand how I'm supposed to respectfully engage with someone who ACTUALLY thinks I'm automatically lesser than him because the supposed ruler of the universe thinks I'm an ungrateful piece of garbage. How do I reconcile that?

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There is no Hell to go to, I thought we were living in it already. Hell was a concept dreamt up by priests and princes to keep people under control. We are all here to be tested, it's not intended to be a holiday camp, for some people anxiety disorder is the test. Someone once said the only thing wrong with Socialism and Christianity is the people who support them. I think there is much truth in this - and all the other isms in this vale of tears.

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It could be argued that all pages of all religious texts were dreamt up to keep people under control - why pick and choose? Also, you're the first Christian to tell me there's no such thing as hell. Christianity seems very fractured and open to interpretation these days (I mean besides the actual different churches which have split off).

In any case, I made a real effort to NOT be confrontational or disrespectful today but I'm not perfect, and this topic is very close to my heart, and sometimes emotion gets the better of me, so I apologize (both to you and to @tamka38 and anyone else who may have been offended).

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There is some truth in religious texts but they have been tampered with to include personal agendas when rewritten or translated. How could a deity that believes in unconditional love and forgiveness send people to eternal fire? For that reason we are not judged, after our life review we must judge ourselves. Humour me a little longer. He asks us only two questions: "Well, how do you think you did?" and "What's the most important thing of all?" The answer to the first is variable but to the second it is "Unconditional love". What happens after that nobody can be sure as nobody who goes further returns such is the definition of near death experiences.

I will now shut up but apologise to you too for maybe shooting from the hip.

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Like I said before,when I got up this morning, I was happy and wanted to shared though about putting smiles

On someone else face, I would had

Never post if I thought for one second

Was going to tigger people now that I

Know it want happen again because it

Don’t matter what I believe am only here

To help and need support everyone have

They own reasons and choices and is

None of my business but we all have

Freedom of speech

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When people make highly offensive posts as o2G2o has clearly made in this thread we should ignore it and inform the Administrator that the post has caused us anxiety, these are the rules of this forum. I replied to her post just so she can put my name on her Black List in case I mention God in a posting (something I haven't chosen to do in 2 years except once before when someone was being abused for their religious beliefs).

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I certainly would not call anything I wrote "highly offensive" by any stretch of the imagination, but I don't know what weight certain phrases or ideas may carry in that belief system.

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Hey guys. I'm not one to interject but let's be humble towards one another and be open and accepting to other's beliefs. This support system is about coming together when one of us is at our weakest because we understand as sufferers what other sufferers go through.

I don't consider this place to be a cheesy social media network like Facebook etc.... But a place to vent to others and receive insight on other's experiences. We are all entitled to our opinions yes, but this is not the place to get into heated discussions about religion, politics and so forth.

Just my two cents. But what do i know? I'm only a guy who sufferes from anxiety😅

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They blowing up and saying I tigger them and I apologize already. But like I said before people on here all the time triggering people but they don’t get they post taken down or reported and everybody acting like they mad like this site is a Joke to me now because I was just feeling happy this morning and only wanted to show some love didn’t know that is was so many people that don’t like to her the word G or religion for they own believe but u can believe u have a mental illness and u can believe u will always be sick so I understand when u in a negative state is hard to come out of I will only talk about mental illness and how depressed and anxious I am from now on

Oh my goodness, I agree with you to the highest power. What’s the point of all of this? It’s just causing so much drama. Let’s just move on now passed all of this stuff & go back to forum love. <3

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Right.thank you, if u was triggering they could had told me this morning and it would had came down early because I was trying make nobody feel bad or anything like that but the Administrator contact me and take down the post they people report but don’t nobody report when people talking about killing them selves and is a lot stuff on the site that triggering me too

Hi tamka38,

This seems to happen often. It’s happened to me as well. Feel free to read some of the posts that are still in my profile. So, as I’ve offered to others, if you would like to share how your faith has helped you with your mental struggles, please PM me. I’ve set up a place where we can do that & anyone’s welcome to join knowing it’s a group just for that.

Blessings to you for peace & release of any stress.

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I would love to join, I just wanted to share and was hoping to put a smile on someone face but it seems like I piss off a lot of people because they don’t want to hear nothing about religion because they feel like are sick and if it was a right religion out there they would be heal so everyone have they own reasons to believe or not is sad

You're an AMAZING person tamka38. Just keep being YOU and all Jesus created you to be. You're a beautiful soul who wants to help others, and do just as Jesus would do. Stay strong and know you are truly appreciated and loved. Hugs

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Awwwww thank u I really needed to hear that because I feel bad, right now because am usually the helping people not hurting people and now is so many people mad at me and I probably should just leave is making me depressed now

Please don't be so hard on yourself sweetheart. We can't control what people say or do in life, we can only stand STRONG in our faith and love for Jesus Christ while living by example. We are given 'free will' to do as we wish, but I personally choose to live by Jesus teaching and I believe you do too. He is my Lord and Saviour who us my rock. I love Him so much and I love you too my sister in Christ. Smile and carry on with being YOU. You're AMAZING!

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Thank u but am down right now and the pain is back I probably need a break from this app

Probably a good idea to take a step back for a bit. Take some time to talk to Jesus and He will comfort you. I will also be lifting you up in prayer sweetheart. I'm here for you. Hugs and 💘

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Thank u

Wowza. I’m absolutely not a religious person, but after reading this thread I’m almost ashamed to admit it publicly. I cannot honestly say that any part of me believes in the existence of anything like god. If I listen to my skeptic’s heart, it tells me there is almost certainly no god. THAT SAID, I personally have never been dead. (To my knowledge.😂) I have never had firsthand experience of what happens after death. I’ve never had any experience in this life that leads me to the utter arrogance of believing that I personally understand the whole truth of existence. Do I believe organized religion and churches as a whole are hotbeds for corruption (dare I say sin?) I sure do. But I also believe that ANY human institution is ripe for corruption. Some people are selfish and will use any power they can gain for their own purposes. Some people are warped by power. And it doesn’t have to be major power- it can be something as simple as the relationship between a small town church goer & their priest- trusting in their authority to know what’s right. *A good person in power will act in the other person’s best interest.* A very similar relationship exists between healthcare professionals and their patients. The patient trusts in their authority brought by years of education & experience. *A good doctor will act in their patients best interest.* A less than perfect doctor, corrupted by greed, might cut corners and rush appointments to make more money- miss critical signs and not diagnose properly. A bad doctor might reuse materials meant to be disposable as a way to save expenses- actively opening their patients to harm.

I got a little long-winded, here, but my main point is: Don’t shove your beliefs down other people’s throats. Don’t belittle other people’s beliefs even if they seem wrong to you. It’s equally as rude & narrow-minded to proclaim “religious people are brainwashed whackjobs!” as it is to say “atheists & agnostics are god-hating assholes who are going to hell!”

Calm down. You’re not so smart you understand the nature of the universe. If you were you’d be able to cure your own mental problems just by deducing your way out of it.

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Ps. Even though I’d call myself agnostic (or a recovering atheist) I still consider “God bless you” a compliment. Take it in the spirit it’s given.

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