Anyone tried ThyroLux supplements for Hashimotos or can recommend a different thyroid medication/ supplement

[Merlio18]

Iam looking at trying ThyroLux it seems to get good reviews but not sure if women are taking it for a supplement or whether it will actually be able to be used long term as a supplement to help control Hashimotos and keep TSH under control? It does have iodine in it so bit wary as I have felt more hypo when trying supplements in the past but it has 30 days money back so thought might be worth a try ! They also do a melatonin and estrogen balance one but the adrenal one has ashwaghanda in it which I seem to have been sensitive too in the past but they all seem to get good reviews has anyone tried and had a good experience?

I have been taking Metatvive 80mg and a 40mg daily in August bloods were 7.2 TSH so needed to take more as went hypo as I came off 1.5 grains of armour TSH was 2ish

So upped it double it to 2 x 80mg pills in am and 2x 40mg pills pm to use them up and managed to get hold of a trial of liothyronine again just took 5 mg pill

And now just done a blood test and TSH has shot down to 0.2tsh !? Only hyper symptom I feel is hot flushes really bad not being able to control my temperature over heat really easily and hairloss and peeling nails but also got low iron but other than that haven't really felt hyper but still look like a moomin all puffy in my face so thought might be adrenal connection can't figure it out?

But still don't feel well I have also swapped from depo to single pill and I have PCOS and adrenal issues so feel really puffy and hormonal looking even when my TSH is under 1 thought I might be feeling and looking better so looking into more supplements

Any ideas on good strength multi vit/ supplements for overal womens health too?

[greygoose]

If I were you, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole! Nor anything else containing iodine. Iodine is a very bad idea when hypo, especially with Hashi's. And it certainly cannot replace your thyroid hormone replacement. Why did you come off Armour? At least with Armour you knew how much T4 and T3 you were getting. With Metavive you have no idea.

Just having a low TSH does not make you 'hyper'. You need your FT4 and FT3 tested to know if you are under or over-medicated.

[Merlio18 in reply to greygoose]

Armour was becoming to expensive for me to afford, so I tried Metatvive as it was a cheaper supplement and I managed to get some liothyronine as I pushed to be triaged bk to an endo but I just don't feel right. I only felt really well on WP but then that's stop production so now at a lost end

I feel overmedicated slightly because of the hot sweats I keep getting and a few other symptoms

TSH 0.2

T4 12.9

T3 5.9

That's Taking 3 pills of Metatvive 80mg in each pill and 1 x5mg pill of liothyronine Roma brand free from

I was going to risk the cheaper ThyroLux coz of how good people looked in the reviews and my Naturopath keeps telling me to try seagreens iodine saying I might react different to it as it's a different form so not sure as you can try and get your money bk in 30 days

I was told to try iodine years bk from a guy that reads your health from your eyes and he just kept saying your idoine deficient take iodine but when I took it just a basic one from the health store I started feeling really hypo and my hair was shedding in clumps it was horrendous so I don't want that to happen again

This is a good link on iodine by Isabel wenzt

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

it's so confusing trying to find a supplement that I feel stable on, has anyone tried any other herbal/ supplements/ NDT that they recommend?

[greygoose in reply to Merlio18]

Can you add the ranges for the FT4 and the FT3, please? Results without ranges are meaningless because the ranges vary from lab to lab. And a TSH on it's own doesn't mean much - especially when it's below range.

I do know about iodine, having been prescribed it by an idiot doctor when I was young and innocent - and ignorant! And, I'm pretty sure it's was the cause of all my present problems. The doctor didn't do any tests to find out if I had a thyroid problem, so I don't know if I already had Hashi's (had lots of hypo symptoms) or if the iodine caused it. But it certainly made all my symptoms worse!

What you really need is a non-loading urine iodine test to know if you're deficient. And, even if you are, there are protocols to be set up before supplementing, so it's not something anyone should attempt to self-treat for.

Unlikely any herbal supplements are going to help you. But, you should get your nutrients tested and supplement accordingly to optimise them.

NDT didn't suit me at all. I'm at my best on T3 mono-therapy. So, I can't recommend anything you can take to help.

[bjhenzel in reply to Merlio18]

I use thyrogold, works good for me

[Maddi12 in reply to greygoose]

You are wrong you need iodine to make the thyroid work . maybe watch Barbra Neil she explains this . low iodine can cause thyroid problems . I had my iodine levels tested and low .

[greygoose in reply to Maddi12]

Thank you for being so tactful and setting me straight.

I do know what iodine is for, and it doesn't make the thyroid 'work' if you are hypo.

Iodine is just one of the ingredients of thyroid hormone. Every molecule of T4 has 4 atoms of iodine - hence the name - and T3 has 3 atoms. If there's no iodine, there's no thyroid hormone, that's true, which is why I suggested the OP get her level checked to make sure her hypothyroidism isn't due to iodine deficiency.

But, as I always say, doesn't matter how many eggs you add to the batter, if the oven is on the blink you ain't going to get a cake! More is never better and can be dangerous. And when you take levo you get about 65 mcg iodine for every 100 mcg levo, which is recycled in the boody. Does it make your thyroid work better? No, it doesn't, I'm afraid. However excess iodine can cause all sorts of complications, including thyroid cancer. So, in my humble opinion, best avoided. Don't you think?

[helvella in reply to Maddi12]

This person?

Barbara O'Neill (born 28 July 1953[1]) is an Australian alternative health care promoter who advertises unsupported health practices described as misinformation and a risk to health and safety by the New South Wales Health Care Complaints Commission.[2][3][1] She does not have any recognised qualifications and did not finish nursing training. She has presented her claims at alternative medicine organisations, wellness retreats, and Seventh-day Adventist Churches.[4][5] She is married to Michael O'Neill, the founder of the now-defunct Informed Medical Options Party, an anti-vaccination and anti-fluoride political group.[5]

In 2019, the Health Care Complaints Commission in New South Wales ruled that she is prohibited from providing any health-related services following several complaints from the public and health professionals.[1][4][5] An investigation found that she provided dangerous advice to vulnerable patients, such as telling those with cancer to forego prescribed chemotherapy for bicarbonate of soda, and to give infants unpasteurised goat's milk.[6] The investigation found that she also did not have any qualifications in a health-related field, and that she failed to meet the expected standards of unregistered health professionals.[4]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barba...

[Noelnoel]

“upped it double it to 2 x 80mg pills in am and 2x 40mg pills pm to use them up and managed to get hold of a trial of liothyronine again just took 5 mg pill”

On that little a dose of Metavive I’d be extremely hypo

[Merlio18 in reply to Noelnoel]

I was only ever on 50/ 75 alternate days levo and 5 liothyronine to begin with and iav had Hashimotos issues for 15 years and never had a TSH of 0.2 only when I upped the liothyronine to 10 I had a really suppressed TSH and felt hyper.

I think it depends what is triggering your thyroid issues as to the dose and how much iodine your intaking ? That link is worth reading all the way till the end.

[grumpyold]

I took kelp tablets in the 1990s in the hope that they would help reduce my horrendous hair loss. I knew nothing about iodine back then.

In 1999 I found out I had Hashi's. I think I actually, ( in my ignorance ) helped cause or exacerbate my own thyroid problem.

I would be a bit wary of a naturopath who advocated seagreens or any other form of iodine.

[Merlio18 in reply to grumpyold]

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

This link is very informative

I don't think iodine on its own is a good supplement to take so I am avoiding the naturopaths recomendation of the seagreens

But I am gonna try the thyrolux and see if it helps it's only 150 iodine plus a lot of other good thyroid vitamins in it which is what is recommended so just depends I suppose I will find out how sensitive I am to it if I try it for a month and I am gonna take a pure selenium supplement to reduce the hydrogen peroxide build up

Going to look at iodine reduction diet protocol by

Dr. Alan Christianson, author of The Thyroid Reset Diet

too and try and only consume it in the supplement at under 150 a day as people have give good reviews and see in a couple months how I am feeling as I think a lot of people are actually contributing to there thyroid issues without even realising how much iodine they are consuming from food and products

[sammy712 in reply to Merlio18]

how did you get on ? thinking of ordering it myself.

[helvella in reply to Merlio18]

I'm afraid you have me very confused now!

It is inconceivable that you are getting no iodine in your diet. Taking a supplement with 150 micrograms will add to what you get from other sources (food, drink, and Metavive or any thyroid medicine). Therefore you are guaranteeing you cannot follow The Thyroid Reset Diet.

I really cannot think of 150 micrograms of iodine as being "only" anything. That is a typical NRV for an adult. I'd only say "only" about something like a sprinkle of iodised salt or other such very small quantity.

Even if you think people need more than 150, I don't think it right to dismiss it more or less as if it is insignificant.

I also sincerely hope you are not meaning you are going to take a selenium supplement as well as, alongside, Thyrolux? It does say it already would be providing 145% of NRV of selenium. I'm fairly sure we have had more members with proved excess selenium than proved deficiency. And some have felt pretty bad taking any selenium.

INGREDIENTS (in 2 capsules)

L-tyrosine 400 mg, Simag™ 55 [magnesium oxide (magnesium) from sea water] 300 mg (magnesium 165 mg – 44% NRV*), capsule shell (structure): hypromellose, holy basil (Ocimum sanctum L.) leaf extract 150 mg, schisandra (Schisandra chinensis (Turcz.) Baill.) fruit extract with 10% schisandrins 100 mg (schisandrins 10 mg), guggul (Commiphora mukul (Stocks) Hook.) gum exudates extract with 2.5% guggulsterones 100 mg (guggulsterones 2.5 mg), zinc gluconate (zinc 10 mg – 100% NRV*), bladderwrack (Fucus vesiculosus L.) thallus extract with 0.2% iodine 75 mg (iodine 150 μg – 100% NRV*), selenium enriched yeast (selenium 80 μg – 145% NRV*), manganese bisglycinate (manganese 4.4 mg – 220% NRV*).

*NRV = nutrient reference values