Can a product intended for thyroid and adrenal support cause symptoms like these?

I've been trying to find a way to support my adrenals naturally; I have all the symptoms of adrenal fatigue and had undiagnosed hypothyroidism (Hashimoto's) for years. I recently made the switch to NDT (Thyroid-S) and read that it's important to treat the adrenals first. Before making the switch, I had read Dr. Peatfield's book "Your thyroid and how to keep it healthy" and it's one of the best book I've read when it comes to the diagnosis and long-term management of hypothyroidism. It also made me realise why I have never felt well on T4 only drugs, even when taking as much as 200 mcg daily.

A while back, I started taking Nutri Adrenal Extra which has been getting consistently good reviews. I have made my way up to 2 grains of Thyroid-S daily and felt good (much better than on T4 only). Then, I decided to try another supplement which happened to be on sale: "Thyroid Adrenal Reset Complex" formulated by Dr. Westin Childs. It had a 4.8 star rating based on almost 300 customer reviews so I thought "why not?" and ordered it. I started taking it yesterday and, after only two days of taking two capsules in the morning (instructions say to take either two or four capsules daily depending on the severity of adrenal fatigue), I have developed serious hyper symptoms: profuse sweating, agitation, racing heart, restless sleep.

Could this be related to the supplement in question? It has a lot of ingredients said to support adrenal and thyroid function: vits C, B1, B2, and B6, panthotenic acid, magnesium, zinc, chromium, potassium, L-Tyrosine, parotid, thymus, chlorella, adrenal gland, rhodiola, spleen, and grape extract.

I may have made a huge mistake going on it, granted, but it's not too late to just go off it and most likely symptoms will go away rapidly if indeed caused by this product. But can anyone tell me if it's likely that this product caused my hyper symptoms (I never noticed any while on NAX), or could it simply be a "hashi swing" (although I've had Hashi's for over 20 years and never got these symptoms while on T4 only, I just felt constantly sluggish)?

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

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There is the facility to post one picture in the opening post of a thread. You could start a new thread with the information, as long as it is thyroid related it wont be off topic.

I didn't know that the adrenal cocktail could be used for either low or high cortisol, so this could be interesting for a lot of members.

[lamornabuck]

beware of rhodiola as it stimulates the immune system

hashimotos is an autoimmune disease

the rhodiola could be stimulating your already overactive immune system into manic mode

I would stop taking it

[greygoose]

3 ingredients jump out at me as suspect.

Tyrosine. Why? I don't know what Tyrosine has to do with adrenals. If someone knows, perhaps they could enlighten me, but Tyrosine is one of the ingredients of thyroid hormone. Could it possibly have caused you to produce more thyroid hormone? I don't know.

Chlorella. Could be that the iodine content is too high for you. Associate that with the tyrosine and maybe there's a chance that your hormone production did rise. I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't take anything with an iodine content that is likely to cause excess iodine. It does stimulate the thyroid to begin with. Although can become anti-thyroid. Also, chlorella stimulates the immune system, which might not be a good thing with Hashi's. Could be that that triggered a Hashi's 'hyper' swing? I don't know, but again, suspect.

Rhodiola. Can act as a stimulant. Doesn't suit everybody.

As a general rule, I avoid this type of product like the plague. It's like multi-vits, there could very well be something in it that doesn't agree with you for whatever reason, and you won't know what it is. Far, far better to take your supplements individually - I know that can mean a lot of pills, but what price health? That way, you can start them one at a time, and find out what suits you and what doesn't. Multi's are always, a very bad idea.

[radd in reply to greygoose]

gg,

As well as being useful in the making of thyroid hormone, tyrosine is a precursor to cortisol, adrenaline, dopamine, etc ...

So useful to someone only with low cortisol.

[greygoose in reply to radd]

OK, thank you.

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Selenium and zinc and high doses of vitamin C at least a 1000mg a day may help the conversion of T3 from T4. Stress levels may be linked to high cortisol. Relaxation and

may be changing your lifestyle to include a walk, and having a bit of time to yourself, might help. As you have Hashis - you may get flushes and these may be linked with dietary factors. Gluten is a major intolerance food in most grains including wheat rye barley, and rice. Other food intolerances such as dairy, egg, may trigger symptoms. Some find tea and coffee are stimulants which might act as a trigger. It may help to ask your doctor for food intolerance tests, which are linked to thyroid and to the gastro intestinal tract. Gluten will affect your thyroid and your digestive system (celiac disease). I would not like to take any product with thymus and adrenal gland and substances which you might be intolerant to.

Selenium and zinc are found in food but selenium is dependant on the soil where vegetables are grown. You can buy supplements from your local chemist but taking a combination of selenium zinc and vitamin c in high doses might help. Ascorbic acid is better than vitamin C with citric acid, if you find acidic foods react on you.

You might find hormone tests for oestrogen and progesterone useful High oestrogen may increase cortisol levels with raised blood pressure. Sure your doctor will help with tests for gluten and celiac disease, and with your hormone levels.

[dtate2016]

The symptoms you described are classic overdose symptoms (thyroid hormone overdose). I'm not sure why or how this has occurred, but if you were doing well until you added this new supplement, then..... If I were in your place, I would discontinue immediately. If everything goes back to normal, it seems to be the obvious answer.

We do receive a lot of information about Hashimoto's and adrenals, and how they both need support, etc. Lots of information on gut permeability, aka leaky gut and Hashimotos (helped with gluten free, dairy free - more and more research substantiating such for Hashimoto's suffer's) In my own 30 year experiment, I have come to the conclusion that 2 grains of NDT just isn't that big of a supplemental dose. Some people with no thyroid problems take admittedly smaller doses to offset an aging thyroid. (not that I am advocating same) But it does help me with perspective. I take a lot of additional, individual supplements, like selenium, methylated B's, Vitamin D, C, etc. I agree with other posts. The individual vitamins and minerals seem to work much better. I have tried a similar "packaged" type multi's with disastrous results. I too avoid them.