Medichecks thyroid vitamins follow up

[Taff178]

Good day to you all. If at all possible could you spare a minute to go over blood tests. I have posted 7th November 19 and 17April 20 both tests fasted and last one taken at 0630.

CRP HS 0.38 then 0.59 range 0-5

FERRITIN 77.4 then 80.7 range 30-400

Folate 13.07 then 11.08 range 3.89-19.45

Vit B12 active 150 then 150 range 37.5-187.5

Vit D 71.1 then 79.6 range 50-175

TSH 0.653 then 1.71 range 0.27-4.2

Free T3 5.41 then 5.01 range 3.1-6.8

Free Thyroxine 14.3 then 13.4 range 12-22

Thyroglobulin 11.6 then 12.9 range 0-115

Thyroid peroxidase 9 then 9 range 0-34

After November results started taking 10,000 IU VIt D3 daily with Vit K2 MK-7 100 mcg also Vit B super complex and stopped taking 9 days before April bloods. I also inject Vit B12 IM and take Parkinson’s medication.

Thanks for reading your opinion appreciated. If you have any questions please feel free to ask 😀

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

Taff178

Both sets of results are fairly similar and within the realms of natural fluctuation so there's no dramatic change.

As ferritin is recommended to be half way through range, your level is low for that range. However, the range is very wide, we usually see that for males (of course, I don't know if you are male )

After November results started taking 10,000 IU VIt D3 daily with Vit K2 MK-7 100 mcg

That is a massive dose of D3 for someone who already had a level of 71.7nmol/L. 10,000iu would be a loading dose for a couple of weeks for someone who had Vit D Deficiency. For your level the Vit D Council would recommend about 3000iu D3 daily to reach their recommended level of 125nmol/L. I have to say I am amazed that your Vit D level hasn't shot up. When I was Vit D deficient (15nmol/L) I raised my level to 202 in 2.5 months by taking Doctor's Best D3 softgels and I didn't take 10,000iu daily for all that time.

also Vit B super complex

Your folate level has reduced considering you're taking B complex.

I'm wondering if you have an absorption problem looking at your Vit D and Folate levels. Either that or the brands you're using just don't suit you.

[Taff178 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Hi SeasideSusie

Thank you for your reply. I to was amazed that my folate and Vit D were so low also my B12 as I Inject IM regularly twice a week. I use healthy origins vitamin D3 10000 iu and igennus super b complex high potency. I also use Vitabay magnesium malate 1000mg x3 a day and natural vitality calm powder before bed. I know 10000 iu of Vit D3 is not high but neither is it toxic levels.

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Taff178]

Taff178

I to was amazed that my folate and Vit D were so low also my B12 as I Inject IM regularly twice a week.

I didn't say your B12 level was low, in fact it is very good. I said it's your Folate result that is low and that it's surprising considering you take a B complex which contains methylfolate.

Are you taking 1 or 2 of the Igennus B Complex? If only taking 1 then I think you'd be better taking 2 daily, which is the dose suggested on the pack, as that will give 400mcg methylfolate which is the normal dose when taking a B Complex to try and raise folate. It will, however, give 900mcg methylcobalamin as well.

I know 10000 iu of Vit D3 is not high but neither is it toxic levels.

10,000iu is high for most people as a regular daily dose, and it's not the amount you take that is "toxic level" but the level of Vit D when measured that can reach toxic level. For someone to take 10,000iu daily all the time and not have a high level of Vit D when tested is very unusual. The NHS lab which does private testing for the public considers a level above 220nmol/L increases the risk of toxicity.

[Taff178 in reply to SeasideSusie]

I do apologise I meant my B12 was the same result in November/April and I will take 2 a day of B super complex as was only taking 1. I went on grassroots Vit D calculator and converted my Medichecks result 79.6 nmol/L to ng/mL 32.1 and it advises me to supplement 10,000iu on top of the 10,000iu I’m already taking to reach 100ng/mL. Have I worked this out correctly? My weight 258 Lbs thank you

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Taff178]

Taff178

You don't need to convert from nmol/L to ng/ml. If you really want to then all you do is divide your nmol/L level by 2.5 to give the ng/ml level, which is 79.6nmol/L = 31.84ng/ml.

The Vit D Council recommends a level of 125nmol/L (or 50ng/ml) and the Vit D Society recommends 100-150nmol/L (or 40-60ng/ml).

Grassroots say 40-60ng/ml (100-150nmol/L) - see grassrootshealth.net/?post_...

GrassrootsHealth has a Partnership with 48 World-Renowned Vitamin D Researchers

GrassrootsHealth is not just another health web site. Instead it is the amalgamation of many vitamin D scientists from around the world and across many disciplines. 48 scientists worked together to create our call to action. 48 scientists have agreed that there is no perfect supplement amount, instead blood levels must be tested, and that level should be 40-60 ng/ml (100-150 nmol/L). Much research, not just one study, is behind our mission to make vitamin D testing and monitoring part of standard of care for ALL people.

If you use the Vit D Calculator (rather than the Serum Level Converter) it says

Use this tool to calculate the estimated additional Vitamin D intake needed to reach your target vitamin D serum level (40-60 ng/ml recommended by our scientist panel).

Where have got that the desired serum level needs to be 100ng/ml from?

[SlowDragon Administrator]

Are you on levothyroxine or trying to get diagnosed?

[Taff178 in reply to SlowDragon]

Hi SlowDragon no not on Levo and these bloods are follow up from nhs last August and Medichecks in November. Trying to find out why thyroid glands so swollen all the time.

[SlowDragon Administrator in reply to Taff178]

Have you had ultrasound scan of your thyroid?

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[Taff178 in reply to SlowDragon]

No not yet as all my appointments are cancelled due to Coronavirus.

[Taff178]

I don’t know about levels as this only my 2nd Medichecks thyroid test. All others NHS which I have results for but no reference ranges. November results 0730 ish fasted and April results 0620 fasted. No scan on thyroid as all appointments cancelled. My thyroid at night feels like I’m wearing a neck brace. Last examination by GP was informed bloods normal just tail end of infection