I am going around in circles on internet! I have decided to go for this form as I have IBS.
Vitamnin D makes my anxiety worse. I have read that that can be because Vit D depletes one of magnesium.
So, does anyone know of a good unbuffered magnesium glycinate 'liquid' (UK) and at what dosage I should take. I don't understand the 'elemental' bit!
Thanks.
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How much Vit D are you taking? It's my understanding that "high dose/large doses" of Vit D can deplete magnesium.
Magnesium is essential in the metabolism of Vit D. I always say, in my replies about supplementing Vit D, that it is an important cofactor as mentioned by the Vit D Council and that
We need Magnesium so that the body utilises D3, it's required to convert Vit D into it's active form. So it's important we ensure we take magnesium when supplementing with D3.
and I suggest checking the different forms to ensure the correct one is chosen for the individual.
I don't understand the 'elemental' bit
That's the actual amount of the active ingredient contained in the supplement. For example, when taking an iron supplement like Ferrous Fumarate, the tablets are something like 210mg, but the "elemental iron" is about 68mg so one FF tablets gives 68mg iron.
The question in this link discusses elemental magnesium:
consumerlab.com/answers/how...
Hi SSue, Even on 1000iu of Vit D I found that my anxiety was worse. However, that amount did not raise my levels at all in 3 months. So now I have been taking, for about 10 days, 10,000iu of Vit D. Alongside I am taking 600mg magnesium citrate.
With regard to your link - "Magnesium (as magnesium citrate)....500 mg" it should contain 500 mg of actual magnesium. However, if the label says "Magnesium citrate 500 mg," this means the entire compound is 500 mg — of which only a small percentage is magnesium (in fact, it's only 16.2%)." I still don't get this! They both read the same to me, ie saying that each contains 500mg of actual magnesium. Can anyone put this a different way so as I can understand please?
They like to confuse us don't they!
The way I read that is that it depends how the label words it.
I take this magnesium citrate powder:
amazon.co.uk/Natural-Vitali...
The serving size is 4g powder and that gives 350mg magnesium. The ingredients state "Ionic magnesium citrate (created from a highly absorbably proprietary blend of citric acid and magnesium carbonate)" so the citric acid and magnesium carbonate together make up the 4g of powder, of which the actual magnesium content is 350g.
These capsules
cytoplan.co.uk/magnesium-ci...
say "Magnesium Citrate 500mg (80mg elemental)"
These capsules
amazon.co.uk/Magnesium-Citr...
say "Magnesium as magnesium citrate - 600mg" and the description reads "Magnesium Citrate 600mg Superior Absorb Elemental Magnesium"
so one assumes that you are getting 600mg elemental magnesium with that supplement according to the answer in the above link to Consumerlab.
So it's really a case of being careful to check the label and choose one that you're confident states the amount of actual/elemental magnesium it contains.
SSue OK so take the Cytoplan one "Magnesium Citrate 500mg (80mg elemental)".
I understand that one needs a 2:1 ratio of Calcium to Magnesium. So which would you double? Would you have 1000 mg of calcium or 160mg of calcium to go with it?
Thanks.
I'm sorry, I have no knowledge of a calcium to magnesium ratio. Anyone who includes dairy in their diet will be getting a fair amount of calcium, also other sources of calicum - leafy green veggies, nuts, fortified flour in bread, etc. When taking D3, this aids uptake of calcium from food, so unless there is an actual calcium deficiency (tested and shown to be deficient) then calcium is not something I would be suggesting anyone takes as a supplement.
This article is interesting newhope.com/blog/time-ditch...
ooer! I just assumed that I am short of calcium because I have osteoporosis. GPs advise on calcium. I don't have milk or bread.
However, I think I am now ready to accept that it is best to concentrate on magnesium. Thanks.
340mg is recommended a day so I would not take another tablet. As it has calcium in it, you can give yourself too high calcium levels. If you are drinking milk and eating chees you are probably eating calcium every day. Calcium, vitamin d and k are closely linked in digestion.
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Isabella Wentz states in her book "Hashimotos Protocol" that many of us are deficient in magnesium and a good form to promote calm and sleep is the glycinate, with a starting dose of 100mcg. This can be doubled if required.
Magnesium comes in several different forms and if side-effects are felt, it could be this type doesn't suit you and you could try another.
I use Seeking Health Magnesium Glycinate (powder), whose scoop holds a daily dose of 200mcg.
Magnesium doses are in mg not mcg......that would be far too small to have any effect at all! 😉
Use an indigestion tablet with magnesium carbonate with aprox. 340 grams a day which is about the right dose. I use it alternate days as am eating vegetables meat and lactase free milk which contain calcium. It does help calm the mind and like potassium is part of your electrolyte balance helping your water in the body.
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Well, I don't know coz I have a practitioner but have just looked at the site again and it doesn't actually say you need a practitioner.
You may be thinking of Nutri-Link. Why don't you try making an account and ordering, see what happens & advise. 🙂
What about this liquid one? Is there anything nasty in it? Is buffered OK? kinetic4health.co.uk/liquid...
Suspect that the biggest nasty will be the price!
I intensely dislike companies that force you to login to even see the price. Means they are in a position to manipulate every single potential buyer.
I see, for example, Amazon offer what appears to be that exact product at from £15.67 to £29.17.
amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listi...
Not holding up Amazon as the only, or best, source - just don't want anyone paying far more than they need.
Too high vitamin D without enough vitamin K could affect your mood and your calcium levels. I take magnesium carbonate which helps with my daily dose of d3 with supplement and also olive oil which has high levels of d3. D3 is the activated sunshine vitamin, and I believe it does not have to go through the liver or stored like vitamin D2. I am not vegetarian so get my vitamin K from meat, lactase free milk, and green vegetables and plants.
hawwii60 I have been doing the lot - K, calcium, magnesium, protein, Vit C, Tsp of coconut oil and still feel crap. I have been gluten free for 4 months now and have pretty much cut out milk. Cutting out milk is harder, but I have cut down drastically. I am giving gluten free 6 months and then I will decide that gluten is not the problem. (I hope it is not anyway) Celiac test came out negative. Maybe I am not taking enough K. I have been taking 3 drops of K - 100ug. Ah! I have just checked the bottle. I thought I was taking 300ug!! They say 100ug K to each 1000ug of Vit D apparently. So I will up that. Thanks.
PS I am an IBS sufferer too, but have found cutting down most grains, and some dairy going lactase free, has helped me. I had tests in the Uk at a pharmacy, privately. Within days a condition which was getting me down resolved. Doctors do tests for celiac disease of for gluten which is in most grains, but you don't have to be gluten intolerant to be grain intolerant. In the Uk we get tests for dairy and egg but not much else.
I was just about to order Seeking Health which contains Citric Acid (made from mold), when I came across this amazon.co.uk/dp/B016KO48Y8/... which has no additives whatsoever and it is cheaper!!
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