Hello all, this is my first post here. I haven't been feeling well as of late -low energy, depression, anxiety, digestion problems, poor memory/concentration, insomnia, cold intolerance, hair loss, eyebrow loss, aches and pains. I visited GP about 2 months ago; long story short: he ordered a whole bunch of tests and they were all within normal range, except vitamin D (I am taking supplements for this 50,000 iu/week for 6 weeks). A test for TSH was also included, but after doing some digging I realised that this test alone is inconclusive, so I decided to have tests done privately via medichecks. Below are results which I received today, please help!
We note that you are taking this test to investigate symptoms.
We are pleased to report that all your results for your thyroid profile are within the normal ranges. Your thyroid hormones are normal as are your thyroid antibodies revealing no evidence of autoimmune thyroid disease.
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zmrahmed Yes, your results are euthyroid (normal) but your TSH at 2.91 shows that your thyroid is struggling. A TSH result of 3 would give you a diagnosis of Hypothyroidism in another country, whereas it's quite normal to wait until it reaches 10 here. Your Total T4 shows there's not an awful lot of natural T4 being produced which is shown in your relatively low FT4. Your body is doing it's best to convert what T4 you have to the active hormone T3 which is why your FT3 looks reasonable at the moment. The more your thyroid struggles, the less conversion will take place and eventually your FT3 will fall.
Unfortunately, you won't get a diagnosis of Hypothyroidism at the moment with those results.
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Have you had B12, folate and ferritin tested?
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As you are taking D3, there are important cofactors needed which your GP won't tell you about because most of them don't know much about nutrition/vitamins and minerals.
D3 aids absorption of calcium from food and K2-MK7 directs the calcium to bones and teeth where it is needed and away from arteries and soft tissues where it can be deposited and cause problems.
D3 and K2 are fat soluble so should be taken with the fattiest meal of the day.
Magnesium helps D3 to work and comes in different forms, so check to see which would suit you best and as it's calming it's best taken in the evening naturalnews.com/046401_magn...
Check out the other cofactors too.
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A couple of general supplements that support the thyroid (and adrenals) are
Vit C - recommended 2000mg daily in divided doses
A good B Complex (not cheap supermarket/Boots/Holland and Barrett own brand)
And selenium L-selenomethionine helps T4 to T3 conversion, recommended is 200mcg daily.
Are all these symptoms to be expected, considering i am euthyroid then?
Even though your results say you are euthyroid, I explained that your thyroid is struggling and in another country you are almost at the level that you would be diagnosed hypothyroid. So that tells you that your symptoms are to do with your thyroid but the NHS wont acknowledge that unless your TSH reaches 10.
Some of your symptoms may be due to low nutrient levels, but they could also be due to your 'almost' hypothyroidism too. Nutrient levels need to be optimal for our own thyroid hormone to work as well as replacement thyroid hormone, so it's essential that we give our thyroids the best chance of working properly.
Yes, they were all tested, and doctor said they were all within range (although I don't remember the numbers now).
It doesn't matter that a doctor says they are within range, what matters is where they are within that range and doctors don't seem to understand the importance of that. Never take their word when they say 'normal', 'in range' or 'fine', always get a print out and see for yourself. Take Ferritin, for example. We often see the range 13-150 on here. Below 13 and you would need iron supplementation. Even 13 to something like 30 would need supplementation. So if you were at the bottom end of the range there is no way you will feel the same as someone near the top end of the range, and you would definitely need to increase it.
You need those test results, and if they are old then you need some new ones. Then we can see where in the range they lie, whether they are at optimal levels, and if you need to supplement them.
If you are in the UK you are legally entitled to your test results, ask your surgery for a print out.
I've started taking the following multivitamin a week ago, twice a day (one morning and one evening):
Best thing you can do is dump it. If you said what brand it was I would look it up and tell you if they are using the correct form of ingredients, most use the cheapest and least absorbable form, often they use the wrong form of B12 and Vit A, and they frequently contain not enough of anything to do any good.
Also, yours contains iron, and that is completely wrong. Iron affects the absorption of everything else and needs to be taken at least two hours away from other supplements, so because it's contained in your multivit, nothing else is going to be absorbed.
Also, have you tested and know that you need zinc? Not everyone does.
You really need the separate tests mentioned and then supplement where it is needed.
Would you know how long it would take to see improvements, in case of B12 deficiency?
No idea, you'd need test results and if you do have a B12 Deficiency then the Pernicious Anaemia Society forum are the people to ask for further advice healthunlocked.com/pasoc
As no one has said so yet...
Welcome to the forum!
I'm not sure if it's remis for me to mention that you can go the "self medication" route. I'd look to the thyroid U.K. Site and contact them for their list of private GPs. it may be worth it to you to find a "thyroid friendly" GP to supervise your trial of meds if you are comfortable with that. (I personally would not stand by and wait for my thryoid to melt down to the acceptable level - according to NHS standards - before getting treatment!! But that's just me). You can alternately create a new post asking members to PM you with reliable sources of NDT (natural Dessicated Thyroid) which I understand is virtually impossible to get a scrip for in the U.K. - even though it's readily prescribed in other countries (including mine). Something to consider perhaps... X Rusty
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