Sinfree, I thought you were going to post your do's & dont's on why you want to quit gal 
but dont seem to be able to find them 
Ermmmm, I've just got a theory eh
May I ask, how long a go your hubby quit ? and did you try to quit at the same time ? if so, what was the outcome ?
Hellooo Pete. Ooooops I never quite got round to it. I had so many suggestions from lots of kind people, that I've spent ages looking at lots of different e-cig websites - (I know, even though I was totally fell out with e-cigs last night). Have managed to sort 1 of my e-cigs out today but for some reason, whether its all that puffing last night trying to get something out of the things I don't know, but for some reason the e-cig seems to be upsetting one of my teeth, which is a bit of a worry cos as you know my teeth aren't the happiest of chappies at the best of times.
Anyways in answer to your question - well, neither of us can really remember but we think its at least 10 years ago and no I didn't even attempt it at the time, I thought it was a passing phase and was quite surprised that he stuck with it, but he did and like you Pete, he did very well considering I was still smoking, but I did start going in the garage to smoke when he stopped but did still smoke in the car sometimes when I was with him, which I did try my hardest not to do most of the time and also feel quite bad about that because second hand smoke can be worse for peoples health than when you smoke yourself.
Well Sinfree, you've just blown my theory straight out the flippin window gal 
I'd thought perhaps you had tried to quit the same time as hubby and you didnt do it !!, sooo you perhaps thought that you were inferior to him or something like that if that makes sense to you
Erm, do you really want to quit smoking ?? or is it your just trying to keep up with everbody else, as in the people at work use e-cigs, so you do to
I will have to delve into it more, cos there has to be a reason eh
Thank you Sinfree
No, I never really, really wanted to stop. I stopped mainly because the dentist said in a very accusatory way that the gum disease I have was a direct result of smoking. I honestly don't think that is the case y'know because from what I can see it seems to still be advancing despite stopping smoking but have come too far now and besides I can't afford to smoke anyway. I just feel stuck I suppose. I've gone too far to go back to smoking but on the other hand I'm still stuck with being tied down to nicotine and being heavily reliant on it to stay sane, or to be a bit saner anyway
And when I first stopped smoking everyone else at work was still smoking ciggies. Just one other person stopped using Champix the same time as me but it was coincidence we had never discussed stopping smoking prior to that. The other people at work kind of dabbled a few months after me, all but one of them went back to smoking. The one who carried on with the e-cig did it because her husband pressured her into it. I left in February tho, so I don't know if she is still off the cigs. Would have all depended how her treking into Manchester went, I know she wasn't looking forward to it at all.
OK, I will see if I can do a quickie why and why not smoke. I may struggle a little with this because despite my massive paddy last night I don't really want to go back to smoking
For smoking
1. It was my bestest friend at the time and I miss the thing I thought was my friend
2. When all else fails - have a ciggie
3. I really miss the way it went straight to my head and relieved all tension, absolutely nothing has ever replaced that. I can still vividly imagine that feeling.
4. Ummm, can't really think of any other good reason
Not Smoking
1 Loadsa money - well maybe not loads but certainly a lot more than I would have if I smoked
2. I may live longer - though sometimes struggle a bit seeing why that might be a good thing
3. My teeth may stay in my mouth slightly longer than they otherwise would have but that seems quite doubtful too
4. Well I suppose I smell better but that's other peeps problem, not mine. Must admit, smell of stale smoke is really not nice, in fact its quite offensive. I do wonder tho if people who never smoked find it quite as offensive as people who used to smoke.
5. I can walk faster, which is a good indication that I'm fitter but not a whole lot of use as I don't really like walking.
6. I think I can cycle faster but there again I just keep getting better bikes to try to make the hills easier so maybe I'm just the same fitness.
7. Can't think of any other reason, really. Oh I don't have to stand in queues in Asda to buy cigs and I don't have to make special trips out for cigs when I really don't want to.
That's it, I think.
Well Sin, I guess you have 4 against 7 so on paper that says a lot! But I know theory and practice are 2 different things. I can see where you're coming from. I think it all makes sense but it doesn't make it easy. You should be very proud to have come so far on this journey and I hope I can do as well as you, and I really mean that x
Aww thank you Briar. I am sure you will get there as you're always happy and upbeat, so if a grumpy bum like me can do it, dragged along this far kicking and screaming, I'm sure you will get there just fine
Oooh your point 2 on stopping struck a note with me, I may live longer but do I really want to,,,,, yes I do if I'm fit and well but not if I end up like my mum, she retired at 60 and then started with dementia a couple of years later, I would never want to live like that and carried on thinking I'd sooner live and do what I want while I can so what's the point in stopping smoking? I'd sooner die of something than live the long death,, then I read that it can actually be part of it so it kind of spurs me on hoping that I won't get it if I stop now. She's had it for over 10 years now and is still with us, but not if you can understand that... It's a horrible disease
Oooh apart from being a Freshair head I've just opened up wayyyy to much, never talk about that with anyone, eek. Back in mi box lol
Oh sweetie, don't worry about opening up, that is so sad that your mum was struck with dementia so young. The thing is, we could all get ill, but we won't get ill because we stopped smoking. Non smokers get ill, so stopping smoking won't stop us getting some kind of illness in the future, but it will definitely help us to lead healthier lives which may delay or even prevent serious illness in the future, and that is all we can hope for. Smoking does cause serious illness so we have to knock it on the head and look forward to a healthier life - end of!!! xxx
Sorry to hear about your mum, it's a devastating disease isn't it, and probably in a lot of ways its harder for the relatives and loved ones than for the person who is suffering. It's so sad that she didn't get to enjoy any of her retirement either. This is why I'm not in any rush to find another job when I left my other job in February.
My husband is 12 years older than me and I always think that by the time I'm up to retirement age which seems to increase every few years, we won't be able to enjoy it much together cos we'll both be too old. We might not have very much in the way of money but we'll get by and I'd rather be financially hard up now than sat here in another 15 years or so on my own regretting things.
I know what you mean my hubby's 8 years older than me but will prob hit retirement age way before me the way things are going... All I know is my mum worked full time all her life and brought a family up, then retired with all the intentions of enjoying life and never managed it,,
Well he's 52 and I'm 45 let's get it right I've just has a birthday lol.. Sorry for bringing a downer on things. Very very rare for me to mention this as I usually keep it all deep and get on with it
Hey that's OK Fresher. Sorry about your mum. It is very unfair what's happened.
Sinfree, thats soo right gal, money cant buy your health, can it soooo, nows the time to get it sorted gal, I now know, that your not 100% on your quit
look Sinfree, I've been trying to quit for 3-4 Years now, and I have made some boobs eh, BUT, what Emjay taut me, was that you have to be at least 99% on your quitting regime to succeed and I dont think you have that determination yet !!
But I am determined, that is the problem. I've come this far so there is no going back to smoking for me otherwise all the past 15 months would have been a complete waste of my life. But......am stuck now, still addicted to nicotine and that is what I have to get rid of, which is proving a real struggle because I'm just a total wreck without nicotine.
That is why I got so angry last night because I'd had very little in the way of nicotine all day yesterday because of stooopid e-cigs not working properly and me without nicotine is bad news for everyone really.
Okay okay let's take a step back. I have absolutely no doubt you will not go back to cigarettes, you absolutely know it doesn't make sense so that's point one.
Point 2 is that the nicotine is controlling you, you are not controlling it, and when things go wrong and you can't get the nicotine you are craving, you panic and get upset.
We need to find a way for you to take control again - and to start to reducing the nicotine without suffering during the process.
I think that somehow we have to go back to hour by hour. So you said last night that you can't go more than an hour without nicotine - so maybe start day one wait an hour, then wait an hour and 15 minutes, then wait and hour and 30 minutes and then stay at an hour and 30 minutes for a while, and then go up another say 15 minutes - so you are taking control of it and not struggling too much before you have your next nicotine.
Keep telling yourself you are in control, it is not controlling you and when you feel twinges, just remind yourself that you are in control and can wait another few minutes.
You can stay on the higher e-liquid or lozenges, just start spreading out the time between them when you are feeling strong enough to do it.
It's the best I can come up with at short notice, what do you think - because you are the important one here, you have to say whether that would suit you? xx
I think that is a very good idea. I did think myself this morning that nicotine is controlling me, it's pretty much the first thing I think of when I wake up. Have tried this before though, and I end up very weak willed. But on saying that, there isn't any other way to do it really is there so I'd best start exercising my willpower. I have a book on that actually, exercising willpower. Apparently its like a muscle that you have to exercise a bit at a time. Will have another read of it. See you tomorrow. Night.
Hi Sin
I’ve been thinking whilst I was in the bath……why not do it like you are stopping smoking, but call it stopping nicking (or something like that, we need pinkie’s help with her catchy names) and plan it just like a stop smoking day.
Carry on as you are now but think about your nicotine habit rather than your smoking habit (which thinking about it you really do hate nicotine) and get yourself prepared. Make a plan of how you are going to do it from day one and keep telling yourself “I am going to do this, I really want to do this, I am sick of nicotine controlling me, I’m taking control back, I can do this!”
Then when your stop day begins, put your plan into action. Get your nrt ready, get your healthy snacks, get your distractions listed, plan changes in routine, whatever it takes, and be determined and positive that you can do this! And try to enjoy the time when you can’t have the nicotine, make it a positive thing not a negative one – you can have it, but not just yet.
You have already given up your best friend, which actually wasn’t really a friend when you think about it, now it’s time to give up your enemy and kick butt – Nics Butt!!!!!
ps Is there really a Willpower Strengthening Class? xx
haha, you cheer up my days you do No, it's a book on strengthening willpower, it's a kindle book, I've got it in my library, I will drag it out.
It sounds like a plan, tho I must get an e-cig sorted that actually works first. But yes I think I can do that, Nic is definitely an enemy, and I hate him, sooooo I will flex my willpower and duff him up. I'm stopping nicking
hehee..
Yeah, I like that. Nic is a bully, and we must stand up to bullys so they run off with their tail between their legs.
Absolutely - let's run this evil little bully out of town!
You will not be alone - I'm going to try it too! xx
Oh my gosh! I really asked myself is there really a willpower muscle that needs to be strengthen? Ha Ha Ha Ha! Although it does sound as if it could be an interesting read - you will have to tell all when you've read it! xx
Oh Fresher I think it helps to open up something as important as that. Yes it is a horrible disease and life can be so cruel. I suppose none of know what life has in store for us which is probably just as well. We have to do the best we can and you are doing that by stopping smoking. Keep up the good job you are doing even though it's so tough at times. X
Thanks Chrissie xx
I'll be reet tomorrow when I get that shiny badge x
Haha yes I am.... and Thankyou x
Right everyone, partying tomorrow night so I'm off for a soak in my lovely bubble bath and then bed - I want to sparkle tomorrow!
Fresher and Monky, I can't wait to see your new badges tomorrow, all shiny and new! I hope the happiness makes you feel better and stronger!
And Briarwood, is it okay if we come back to your place - the grounds were so magnificant!!!
Sweet dreams everyone and I'll see you tomorrow
Night night xxx
See ya tomorrow and the good news is we are all coming over to you for some red milk. X
Night Chrissie
Nitey nite Chrissie, you enjoyyyyyyy your soak gal, and am sure you will sparkle anyway
Hmmmm, just wondering Chrissie, do you want a pink sparkly complexion for work in the morning her you go gal
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See's ya soon xx
Nite nite all, and the sweetest dreams ever heading you ways
Sinfree, just have a real good think about things eh
You all take care now, and luvs ya xx
Night Pete, see you tomorrow.
