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Does anyone else have problems at dentist with adrenalin injections? I shake violently and had to be held down till I stopped,???

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ladymoth

Adrenaline affects some people like this.

i hate the stuff and feel terrible for hours if I have it! Fortunately your dentist can use local anaesthetic without adrenaline if you tell them it upsets you.

They only put it in the injection to stop your gums bleeding, but that's not a big problem, 'cos dental work rarely bleeds more than couple of mls unless you have a big extraction.

Make sure your dentist writes on your notes about your sensitivity, but remind them every time anyway, then you won't have any more problems :)

Moffy x

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littlemisshurty in reply toladymoth

My dentist won't finish the root canal she started there is still 1root left and I now have antibiotics to clear infection in face and neck as iv been waiting for the hospital to put me out wit gas...the dentist was so scared when I had a fit she won't touch it...I asked for the other stuff but she had to overdose me last time to do the work....it's crazy never used to happen

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moggie2002

I always ask for adrenaline free anaesthetic - if they ask why, I tell them I have a reaction to it. I think that conditions like ME/CFS and FMS make you sensitive to a lot of things.

Agree with Moffy, let the dentist/hospital know every time you need treatment.

Mogs x

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littlemisshurty in reply tomoggie2002

I have fibromyalgia...could be a factor....my dentist had to carry me into waiting room I couldn't walk after injection and called my sister..she was going to send me to hospital. She said never came across it in all time as a dentist..she was more scared than me..

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littlemisshurty

The dentist was to scared to use it again but it lasts longer where as the normal stuff doesn't and she had to use more than normal so I didn't feel pain and she done root canal with no aneshetic cos I'd had 2adrenaline she couldn't give anything else so it didn't get complete as I was jumping out of seat I have terrible time at dentists she said she doesn't have anyone else like me..and in 12 years I was 1st person allergic adrenalin...I know you need it if you have been in accident and heart stopped I don't know what else it's in but if my heart stopped how can I say I'm allergic now that's a thought...a bracelet is in order weird woman don't try and resusetate lol

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ladymoth

If you were resuscitated with adrenaline,it would be OK - the whole idea then is to get both you and your heart twitching!

I think you have an extreme sensitivity rather than an allergy, because an allergy would cause swelling of the throat and face, with collapse, whereas sensitivity causes the unpleasant symptoms you described earlier.

Most dentists will use a drug called 'Citanest' for patients who react badly to adrenaline. It's very expensive, so they think twice about using it if they can manage without! Sad but true in these hard times!

Hope you have a better experience with your dentist next time :(

Moffy x

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littlemisshurty in reply toladymoth

Thank you

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littlemisshurty

Thanks modify I shall write it down..I have a lovely dentist she goes to great lengths but I do have awful time I didn't used to but the last couple years I dread going but I like having teeth so go for it.

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littlemisshurty

Stupid predictive text putting wrong word in my messages.

i too have this problem and my dentist reck t was down to fibro plus variety of meds and some of us hve more hypersensitivty than others!. im one of these since diagnosis i react to near on everything!

pees me off as i never hd probs with anyhing prior to this. my dentist has marked it on my notes and uses more or the adrenaline free if anything needs doing. i hd bad reaction one dy and was slowly loosing feeling throuhout my body lk paralysed and shook lk a fit from headbto toe! was scary and worried dentist too he said he cld c my eyes going. i h to stay in surgery at least hr untill worse passed an affected me for rest of dy til it hd worked out of system! dentist even called to chk on me. so please mention it and gey it noted! i hbe it in big red pen on my notes lol. also our condition seems to play havoc with our teeth and gums, mine has receeded and nothing we can do xx

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Hi cherie67 what position are you in now? Have needed any dental treatment since posting and what was the outcome?

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My jaw wad locked for so long and I got d . My teeth..but yeah the dentist wad petrified and called my sister she was there the 2nd fit that's when they realised what it was cos the min she injected I started shaking from top to bottom they had to carry me out I couldn't walk...it's so frightening it never used to happen..

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Spirit

Yes I do too - and as has already been posted here I have the noradrenaline free version of local anaesthesia. It takes longer to wear off for some reason, but it's much better for me. I've previously collapsed, worked the stuff out of my system in under 10 mins - was having a root filling at the time so that was fun :/

My reaction to it is also recorded on my patient records at GPs, the hospital AND the dentist. Big red letters on the dentist one lol - I'm guessing they don't want me to collapse at the top of the stairs again!!

Spirit x x x

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littlemisshurty

Mine are upstairs as well tiny little landing...cos we get shakes we use the adrenalin up quick I was also having root c.f. anal but never got finished cos I was like a jack in the box nothing left to stop pain.so glad I'm not only one it's scary when you can't walk even and the shakes so violent..I just had spine surgery 6 weeks . B4 so scared the rods and screws would move as the setting isn't yet hard.

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Tazerbright

I Have severe M.E. and had to go to dentist this week (an effort in itself) I have already had a bad reaction to adrenaline injection previously at dentist so have had non adrenaline one ever since which was OK. This time though the anesthetic didn't work twice for same place so dentist's collegue came and did another one. Then all hell broke loose. Passed out 2 secs. Woke and was sick, sick, sick. Shook all over. Severe pins and neadles. Cramp in one leg which lasted ten minutes. Severely exhausted and couldn't walk out of surgery for ages.

Anyway went to doctor today and asked about this among other things. She said it could be a sensitive reaction to the chemicals in the injection or an anxiety attack. Ok no-one likes getting injections but I tried to relax as much as possible. Wasn't scared much at all. Could this be subconscious? Going to ask about the chemicals in the injection next time I go to the dentist. Never got the filling done so have to go again when feeling a bit stronger.

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littlemisshurty

The dentist had to stop a root canal as I had no aneshetic cos after using up the adrenalin I'd have overdosed...but I'm not scared of needles I have regular blood tests and bit b 12injections which I have now found out I have had allergic. Reaction and have raised and hives and boils coming out i never suffers spots seems like I'm getting bad reactions to everything lately...but I had to be carried out of surgery and had to call someone to get me..I terrified the dentist she said never seen it in all the years she's been a dentist..it's good to know I'm not alone..x

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littlemisshurty

Autoinjectors

Adrenaline is available in an autoinjector delivery system. EpiPens, Anapens, and Twinjects all use adrenaline as their active ingredient. Twinjects contain a second dose of adrenaline in a separate syringe and needle delivery system contained within the body of the autoinjector.

Though both EpiPen and Twinject are trademark names, common usage of the terms is drifting toward the generic context of any adrenaline autoinjector.[citation needed]

[edit]Adverse effects

Adverse reactions to adrenaline include palpitations, tachycardia, arrhythmia, anxiety, headache, tremor, hypertension, and acute pulmonary edema.[14]

Use is contraindicated in people on nonselective ß-blockers, because severe hypertension and even cerebral hemorrhage may result.[15] Although commonly believed that administration of adrenaline may cause heart failure by constricting coronary arteries, this is not the case. Coronary arteries have only ß2 receptors, which cause vasodilation in the presence of adrenaline.[16] Even so, administering high-dose adrenaline has not been definitively proven to improve survival or neurologic outcomes in adult victims of cardiac arrest.[17]

[edit]Terminology

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7sense

Interesting.

I'm post liver transplant and the mail lo facial clinic which I have to go to hadn't heard of this? I would call it a hyper sensitivity rather than an allergy.

Last time it was used I am told, as I don't remember the event, I jumped out of the chair and bopper the dentist. I don't know if it was because he ignored my warning or tbh I really think it was out of my control. Being a passive person after recanting the story to the ppl in my new clinic, dentists won't touch me due to v low platlets.

It's annoying as the guy turned around and said I've never heard of this or any research paper. Whether, when I got the letter after consult I saw he was a 'trainee', was anything to do with that or not?

He went on to say we might use it any way to document the results. See that's what got the last one knocked out from what I'm told came my reply.

As i said it's hurtful that someone even finds this funny or if he was serious negligent. Let alone ignoring the patient and their wishes. Just say Know!!!

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Ramona59

I know this is quite an old post but I read with interest as I've just had an extremely bad reaction to dental anaesthetic. However it was the adrenaline free one! I was literally unable to walk, talk or move. It was as if the anaesthetic had completely paralysed my whole body. Consequently I was uunableto have treatment. My M.E. is not very good at the moment but I really need to have a tooth extracted. Any suggestions would be appreciated please.

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Mettyvan in reply toRamona59

Hey. What did you do? I'm due a filling tomorrow and was going to ask for adrenaline free injection but after reading this I'm terrified. If I don't get this done I will end up loosing tooth. Did you go for adrenilin free again or normal one?

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Ramona59 in reply toMettyvan

Hey, I know how long it is since you replied to me but I didn't get a notification that you'd replied and I just happened to login again for some more advice, so sorry.

I still haven't managed to get the dental treatment I need and am just getting nowhere with repeated infections!

How did yours go?

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epifree

I don't like epinephrine...and, truly, believe, that, dentists should stop using this stuff. I understand, that, epinephrine-free alternatives, such as the brand, 'Carbocaine'/ plain/2%, are - supposedly - a little more expensive, for dentists, don't keep patient 'numb', for as long, and - rediculously(they are not considered 'vasoconstrictors') - are, by some dentists, reserved for use, only for patients, with high blood pressure. I'm pretty active, weight 100 pounds, and, my bp, is between 100 and 110. Sometime ago, I was visiting the dentist, for the removal of decay, involving one tooth. The dental chair is, actually, kind of relaxing, to me, and, getting shots, have never bothered me; however...a few minutes after receiving the injection...I noticed something: my chest felt, as though, a ship had landed..kind of heavy. I said to my dentist, "this is strange...I feel like a ship is setting on top of my chest", to which he responded, "then, you're sensitive to epinephrine...I'll make a note in your chart", to which I queried, "when will this feeling go away?", to which he responded, "oh...five or six minutes....", to which I responded, "I don't want to die", to which he responded, "you're not going to die".

Well, the sensation did stop, in - about - the amount of time, that, he had stated, followed by a feeling of calm and chilliness.

I would, much, prefer, to have something epinephrine-free administered, even, if the effects are not as long-lasting(if I start to feel anything resembling pain, I can let them know, and, they can administer a bit more).

Epinephrine puts the body into 'fight or flight' mode, which, is ideal and necessary, when you are running for your life, or working on a dance combination, or - perhaps - need to be resussitated, but, NOT, when you are relaxed, in a dental chair...

There are so many people, who hate the sensation, of epinephrine, but, in an effort, to not come across, as a 'difficult patient', say nothing...

I am, no longer, seeing the dentist, who discovered my sensitivity to the stuff; in fact, I am going in, on Monday, for my first 'medicated' procedure, with a dentist, who, in the past, I have seen, only, for 'unmedicated' procedures, such as polishing a rough tooth edge, or fitting a tooth with a crown(he is more expensive than most, is considered to specialize in 'cosmetic dentistry', and, in the past, didn't even take insurance, which, fortunately, appears, to have changed).

X-rays reveal a cavity, which means...I will be getting a shot. I have been VERY clear, with him, and, with his receptionist: no epinephrine. I recall his initial response, as being, that, he does have something, containing a very 'nominal' amount of epinephrine. He IS skilled, but...temperamental. His receptionist put a note, into my chart, in regard, to the epinephrine sensitivity. My concern, is this: is he, simply, going to 'poopoo' my concern, and, choose to administer a product, containing a 'nominal' amount of epinephrine, when, I have made clear, that, I want NO epinephrine?

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Jewely11

Yes. I recently had dental work. I started shaking all over and started crying. It was terrifying. I didn’t know why because I had never had problems with dental injections before. The next week I had to go back for more work. The dentist said he “dialed back” the epinephrine because of my reaction. I still shook but not nearly as bad and it didn’t last as long.

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