How do I get rid of shin splints?

[greymegan]

Well, it is a fibromyalgia flare up, not shin splints, but they feel like that. When I get this bad flare up, I struggle to walk on my legs but then I sit down and the pain doesn't ease. Any recommendations?

[rosie-2015]

Hi, is the pain in your shins,?? If it is then it's necessarily due to your fibro. My husband finds voltarol helps him, it's worth trying, my husband get's it free on prescription but we're in Scotland

Gentle hugs Rosie xx

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[greymegan in reply to rosie-2015]

Yes it is. Okay thank you, I might bring that up with my GP x

[johnsmith]

It is too easy to say I have fibromyalgia and I have this as a result. It is always worth investigating if there is something else that can cause the pain. The medical profession has great difficulty understanding referred pain.

"Referred pain, also called reflective pain,[1] is pain perceived at a location other than the site of the painful stimulus. An example is the case of angina pectoris brought on by a myocardial infarction (heart attack), where pain is often felt in the neck, shoulders, and back rather than in the thorax (chest), the site of the injury. The International Association for the Study of Pain has not officially defined the term; hence several authors have defined it differently."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refer...

It is worth seeing a chiropractor for an opinion and possible removal of the pain.

[Hidden in reply to johnsmith]

I have that heart attack symptoms all the time they’re going to get me a holster in a few days. Been a lot of stress and I’ve had all the symptoms but my ecg usually ok but not yesterday slow and my ultrasound was good but that doesn’t mean no heart disease scary

[johnsmith in reply to Hidden]

I can understand the scary bit. I have the heart attack symptoms on the right side - so not heart attack symptoms. So I am a little bit fortunate. Symptoms caused by extended disks in neck with impingement on nerve roots which affect right arm and shoulder blade.

I learnt from the many years of chiropractic treatment that a tight rib can lead to angina type symptoms. I cannot remember which rib. The chiropractor by untightening the rib muscles removes the discomfort. The doctors standard response is to look for medication rather than pressure being applied on the vagus nerve.

What is a holster?

[Hidden in reply to johnsmith]

Yes my ribs are tight my whole body is jammed from biting down and pain and meds dried out all the time bowels locked up. Trying to ween off this crap. A holster is just a machine worn for a couple days that tracks your heart rate. My pains on the left

[johnsmith in reply to Hidden]

So keeping an eye on heart rate and rhythm.

It is worth seeing a sports therapist who can unlock some possible tight muscles in the legs. Muscles in the legs feed into the back and affect the chest tightness. Usually I would think of a McTimony chiropractor. They know how to tackle tight ribs and legs. The heart monitoring equipment could be problematic for them.

Removing some muscle tightness reduces stress and thus would enable better quality of life.

[Hidden in reply to johnsmith]

Tell me about it

[Sailingtrio]

Hi there, I have no answer but like you share that symptom. Awful...I can be in tears with it. So, I stand with you in pain.

I have tried creams without much success.

The mantra I repeat is that all these pains aren’t damaging me. I have a close friend with MS and she is deteriorating quite rapidly sadly, so I try and think of myself is an ok place in comparison. Tough though with the pain.

I hope you are in a place you can enjoy tomorrow, even if on small bites.

Kind thoughts, 🦋Sarah

[greymegan]

Oh bless you, wishing all the best to you and your friend! I hope you enjoy tomorrow too 🤞🏻

[Vivalaviv]

Magnesium glycinate. Works for muscle pain. Or magnesium baths.

[Sid_Arthur]

Hi Megan,

One possible explanation for your symptom COULD be that more calcium (& other minerals too ?) are being pulled out of your bones ( esp. around shin area) than being put back in - so that there is INSUFFICIENT bone regeneration. This is more likely to be true, if you are feeling bone pain, as "shin splints' suggests.

A possible cause of this ( - greater output of Ca from bones) could be elevated CALCITRIOL levels ( - the activate hormone of "vitamin D"). Levels above 108 pmol/L are said to be high enough to do this, over the longer term. Although a CALCITRIOL test is available, it is expensive, and the average GP is unlikely to be willing ( - or able) to request this.

Further, it IS possible that the precursor to calcitriol, the prohormone calcidiol, is LOW, while the active hormone, the calcitriol is 'high' ( 108pmol/L or more). So, measuring the calcidiol alone - as is often done - could lead to the incorrect conclusion about the calcitriol level. In a case of finding the calcidiol ( - the pro-hormone) to be 'low' AND supplementing to increase its level is foreseeably likely to make an already bad situation worse ( - as this will, in due course increase calcitriol levels further too, making Ca reabsorption greater too).

This is a matter to perhaps bring up with a consultant with an interest in endocrinology, immunology OR, if possible both. Discussing this with your GP, with a view to an appropriate referral could be the first important step ?

The underlying biochemistry for the above is well known & reported, but some labs still give an upper 'acceptable' level of calcitriol as ~190+pmol/L, - likely to be too high, on an ongoing basis, according to some authorities who have been writing about this for decades ! This 'low' calcidiol, 'high' calcitriol pattern has been reported in a WHOLE range of chronic conditions which have inflammation as a feature, including with FM.

Hope the above pointer brings you some benefit - or will at least exclude one possible cause - for your painful "shin splits".

AtB,

Sid ;~)

25 Dec 2019

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[greymegan]

Thank you for all your advice everyone 🙂

[Sid_Arthur]

Elevated calcitriol levels can caused Ca to be reabsorbed from bone into the blood stream, & the literature suggests levels over 108pmol/L, if maintained may do this.

There is NO reliable a method of assessing calcitriol than to measure it directly. Seems straight forward enough, and explained in more detail in the longer above reply to Megan.

As said calcidiol, the prohormone, may even be 'low' when calcitriol, the active hormone is 'high' - which has been RELIABLY reported. In essence, this does not seem overly complicated - although the whole biochemistry of this hormonal system may be among the MOST complex in biology, and is still being studied with great interest around the world.

Sid ;~)

26 Dec 2019

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