Saw a second specialist today for a second opinion as per your advice back at the end of September when the first one turned me down for laparoscopy and instead recommended I try Visanne or GnRH analogues. This one had a much better bedside manner and looks like some time around March I will be scheduled for surgery. It may not be the answer to my pain but better to know than take drugs that aren't necessarily going to help. He is also recommending to my GP that they refer me for a neurologist and a rheumatologist as well. In other words he shows he actually cares that I get the help I need to help me with this pain. Unlike what seems to be so many out there that don't. Thanks for all your input it gave me the perseverance to keep on trying. At least now I have a finish line to shoot for.