so im still having the thoughts severe now i dont even have appitite to eat my body feels weak im tired aswell i just want my old me back and life back i think is the thoughts and atuff that have me depresss and having anxiety i even sweat alot when i sleeep aswell my heart raceses aswell but the more annoying thing thats really bothering me is ths thoughts stuff i think its called instrusive thoughts it wont leave at all its everyday i cant even think strieght mind facing with the thought and i try to think about other stuff but its like alays there and dont leave i get the nervous feeling aswell in my stomach even have diaria in the morning because its problem the way my system is right now plus the thoughts all together and i atartef the new job its good but i even have them there dont know what to do anymore i fight everyday yes i do but its not helping go get better or anything.
hello everyone.: so im still having the... - Anxiety Support
hello everyone.
Hi Johnnie.
I really feel for you. The sweating is linked to the anxiety
So is feeling nervous and having diaoria. The intrusive thought can be hard we all have intrusive thought that's o.k just take deep breath and tell yourself it is a intrusive thought and that's all its not going to become true
Johnnie. The reason why you are still having those thoughts you dislike so much, and all the other unpleasant symptoms of anxiety is contained in the last sentence of your post. You say you fight it every day.
Let me tell you from personal experience that fighting those thoughts such as trying to forget them, trying to suppress them, trying to distract yourself from them, trying to ignore them is the wrong approach. If you learn to accept the thoughts and feelings and not do anything about them, the old you will return.
Please take a look at a post I made called Worrying, scary, intrusive thoughts a couple of years ago. Those thoughts are created by your anxious mind and just the mind’s way of releasing all that nervous energy that has accumulated through trying to fight your way out of it. You are fuelling those scary thoughts yourself and keeping yourself stuck in the fear-adrenalin-fear cycle. Accepting or allowing all the symptoms to be there and learning to observe them rather than getting involved and fighting is the way to recover from anxiety or any other fear based disorder. Trust me.
you think those thoughts would leave ?
As sure as night follows day.
what do you mean ?
I mean it’s a certainty that they will fade away. All thoughts and feelings are just a form of energy passing through the mind and body. Anxiety creates negative energy which is extremely uncomfortable and the normal human response is to do things to stop feeling that way, hence the fighting, suppressing, running away etc. Anything to stop feeling uncomfortable. The problem with that is that those actions stop the release of the energy that is causing you so much trouble. How can you escape from something that you are not prepared to release? This is why learning to be ok about not feeling ok is the way to recover.
I bet those thoughts come uninvited and shock you to the core, right? They shock you so much, you cannot think of anything else and spend all your energy and time trying to work out why you had that thought, why it shocked you so much. The shock element creates a false importance and tricks you into thinking the thought must be true which adds more stress. Adding more stress reinforces that thought which then becomes stuck in your mind like a needle on an old vinyl record player. You can no longer think around the problem, only the problem itself. Your mind is exhausted and needs a rest from all that fighting and the reason why simply allowing the thoughts to come and putting up zero resistance will take away their power and gradually fade away. I had all sorts of scary thoughts but they all disappeared when I learned to accept them. You only have those thoughts because you have anxiety. They simply won’t be there when you recover so you are basically fighting with yourself.
so you had the same thing aswell ? for how ling you had it ? and yeah i do need to get better .
I suffered for a good few years but don’t let that stress you out because the path to recovery is all about learning to accept and not fight and requires a change in attitude towards the symptoms which can take time to develop. The quicker you see through the web of lies spun by anxiety and lose your belief in the thoughts, the more you will recover. Don’t get me wrong, recovery doesn’t happen overnight and can take time to lose your fear of the symptoms/ thoughts etc. The beautiful thing about it is that when you know longer fear anxiety, it eventually disappears. It’s about no longer caring about the thoughts, losing your respect for them which starves them to death.
During my recovery, a thought would flash up in my mind and followed by a fearful reaction. There was no gap between the thought and the reaction which came automatically. You cannot control the first fearful reaction but you can decide how you react to it. Your reaction will determine whether or not you stay stuck on the anxiety hamster wheel. If you add more fear by fighting with the thought and going over it repeatedly, tiring your mind out in the process, you go nowhere, fast. If you learn not to react to the thought (observe it like you would listen in to a heated conversation between two people and not getting involved) safe in the knowledge that it is just a thought and not real, you will stop feeding the thought and it will gradually lose its power to strike fear into you and fade away.
What I also meant to say was that I occasionally tested myself by deliberately thinking that same thought that scared me to death minutes earlier. Did I get the same fearful reaction? No I didn’t which proved to me that it was anxiety playing it’s tricks and that the thoughts in themselves were not scary, it was just anxiety making them feel scary.
Okay I understand hopefully ill be good again.
thats what i only want is the thoughts to leave and be back to normal
They will when you learn to let them go and not react to them. They are only thoughts. Not reality.
Johnnie, we know that you want the thoughts to leave and be back to normal. But wanting isn't going to make it happen. You have to do something. You have to read carefully the the advice Beevee and others and act on it.
Merely repeating what you want and updating us with your latest symptoms is not going to help you.
Walking the walk and talking the talk, to coin a phrase. Complaining about symptoms says to me that the anxiety sufferer is not truly accepting but that’s ok. I did the same thing but read up on the subject (Dr Claire Weekes ♥️♥️♥️) and applied her teachings. It didn’t suddenly all click into place and then I was fine. Far from it. Recovery is a process because it takes time for the mind and body to sort itself out and get back on an even keel which it will do once you learn to step out of the way of yourself and let the natural healing process to get on with the job. You don’t have to do anything except be a willing passenger on the anxiety roller coaster ride back to normality. Normality ( peace of mind and body and no inappropriate levels of anxiety) is still there. It’s just buried beneath those symptoms, waiting to rise to the surface. And it will happen, as sure as night follows day 🤓
where is Johnnie from? Do we know?
I think he said New York.
Hi Agora if 1234 lives in NY therapists in this state do not cancel. If you are having a lot of mental and anxiety problems there are walk in clinics all over and if you have severe symptoms just walk into the local hospital ER and if warranted they will admit for evaluation.If 1234 reads this he will try the advice
Thanks Maagaa. Chicago is like that as well. Always a way to get help BUT...we need to be willing to accept the help available to us.
Such a good point, we truly do have to be willing to face our fears and get to the root of our issues.
It's so true Yvonne, I have a daughter who has been anorexic for 9 years and refuses all help. Doctors can't do anything for her until she has a mind change in accepting the fact that she needs help.
Thank you for sharing.. xx
I feel for you. But you also deserve a lot of congratulations for getting your job and going to work in spite of how bad you feel. Keep going to your job. I think it will help you to slowly get your mind on other things. Also double check your therapist appointment for the 24 th, as that will help also. (((((((Johnnie)))))))) and xx
I had really bad anxiety and panic attacks afew months ago, I also felt like I was losing myself and desperate to get the old me back, I felt so sick I couldn't eat, I fought it at first and then started doing meditation through an app called Headspace and self hypnosis for anxiety (there are some good videos for this on YouTube) you must try and keep your strength up and keep your blood sugars stable, if you find it hard to eat try mixing a banana into some fruit juice or have a piece of toast, the doctors said your appetite will come back when you relax...and it DID! Other ways that helped me were to run or jog on the spot to burn off the adrenaline..the biggest turn around for me also was taking magnesium and high dosage vitamin d, I almost felt a relief overnight with the magnesium and apparently a lot of people who have anxiety have a magnesium deficiency, but check with a pharmacy for yourself first, don't punish yourself about your intrusive thoughts, just think of them as clouds passing, they are scary but the blue sky comes back, do deep belly breaths and tell yourself these feelings will pass, dont think bad about your thoughts it's just your anxiety not what you are, don't react to them just think 'oh yeah that's just a thought it's just anxiety trying to trick me' don't fight it and your body will start to calm down and your appetite and the old you will return 😊 Good luck 👍
Journaling is also a good way to help your mind relax try an app called YOUPER aswell, its like texting your thoughts and the app texts back with you and helps you turn your catastrophising thoughts into more calmer thoughts ☺️ Hope you get some comfort
Hey mate so dose your anxiety start to get like diarrhoea all the time sometimes I get blood in my diarrhoea I'm sick of this anxiety and stress cause your body to do so much things you can't sleep and everytime you want to sleep your body feels like crap and you can't get any sleep do get like that that sometimes I've had this for so long I'm sick of it
how long you had it for?
A long time I wish it would go a way
I have 24/7 anxiety and symptoms I'm just so sick of it but I am glad I am not a lone
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