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For some reason when i go to sleep or even when im going to sleep my heart just jumps up into my chest like it beats wierd it feels like it but when im touching it it beats regular but then hard regular then hard i dont get whats wrong with this situitons it cant just be all anxiety because its everyday and in my throat aswell i touch it feel it beating hard the ones thats getting me scared a bit its the spasms all over my body it moves different places even where my heart to different places around my body it just starts moving i guess probably the problem that i had bad experince with the weed it messed up my nerves or something and my heart rythm all this just wierd plus these things happens everyday daily at some point also my head sometimes feels numb and headaches that annoys me and i just cant my feeling back like my vision unreal dream like mostly everyday its annoying its like im not in the word or im just dead or something or im dreaming its crazy but all these physcal synpthoms wont leave its a everyday thing 7months i made yesterday with this horrible feeling i try to be strong sense docters say im fine but i really dont know whats going on it has to be something wrong after i smoked that day and started having massive panic attacks everyday there more calm now because i know whats going on and it goes away but it has to be something wrong that im feeling all these things and i cant enjoy life naymore how i use to be its crazy im a bit down and depressed but someday all those wont be happing anymore hopefully . if im stay like this for the rest of my life i dont know what will i do .

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Agora1 profile image
Agora1

Hi Johnnie, unfortunately after 7 months of suffering from anxiety, it no longer makes any difference where it came from or why. Now you will have to learn to accept and deal with your symptoms. Everything you are explaining still points to severe anxiety disorder. I know it is hard to believe that extra adrenaline coursing your body can cause these vicious issues. Nothing is physically wrong other than your nervous system is over sensitized. Until either medication or your strong will brings down the levels of adrenaline, this will continue going on.

As long as you wonder and worry so will the anxiety be kept alive. It's time to move forward in feeling better one step at a time.

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Johnnie1234 in reply to Agora1

yeah its just wierd all these sympthoms everyday i dont know how that works when im not even thinking about it sometimes or not nervous its crazy and its driving me crazy

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veronica20

Hi :)

It's good that the doctors say you're ok, that must be reassurance at least! If there were any abnormalities then it was come up on an ECG.

I find that whenever I focus on my heart beat it is a slippery slope towards an anxiety attack and if it's something you're concerned about, you're likely to constantly think about it and catastrophic thinking is something that leads to panic attacks/anxiety which can have physical effects on your body.

And because of your bad experience with weed, you may have convinced yourself that it's messed up your nerves when I'm almost 100% sure that it wouldn't have affected you physically (unless you're a regular smoker) but every time you think about it, it's your natural body response is to panic because it's a negative thought going through your head just before you go to sleep.

I've only just started properly understanding anxiety and panic attacks myself but it is extraordinary how our bodies work and I hope I've provided something useful!

Try some relaxation tapes on YouTube - as cheesy as it sounds they really do work!

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Johnnie1234 in reply to veronica20

yeah i was smoking weed for 3 years and sometimes when i use to smoke sometimes it would have me calm and relaxed but sometimes aswell when i use to smoke my heart would go really fast then it would go away but this day it just hit me really hard that i stayed this way for 7 months with physical sympthoms i never experinced before or even went through this type of stuff but its ruin my life of enjoying it how i use to i even stoped smoking ever sensw that day that it happen to me but still no changes its like i have to keep fighting it and try my best be strong its just crazy feelings and im a bit down aswell because i wish i never smoked that day and just try to make things right but i guess not its over and done with me i been this way for 7 months none smoking weed at al and barely drinking because all of this and still nothing changes

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veronica20

Yeah I get what you mean I get that when I smoke weed like the heart racing and that but I've worked out that it's all in your head, if I've felt anxious or I'm already thinking negatively I won't smoke because I know it'll make things worse whereas if I'm in the right state of mind it's great!

You can get withdrawal symptoms from smoking weed especially if you were for 3 years so it might be beneficial to have a look on the internet and do some more research into that because it might be the cause of your physical symptoms.

It sounds like this bad experience with weed has triggered some bad feelings that you've carried with you since you stopped smoking so what I'd suggest is talking to someone about it because they can identify what it is that's giving you these feelings.

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Johnnie1234 in reply to veronica20

yeah at first i thought i had some sort of heart problem that i aint no about but i seen docters even cardiologist said everything is fine it looked like i have a little bit arrythmia but not a dangerous one he said he didnt give me no meds for that because he saw what was wrong i had a heart monitor on a day before taking back i was in my friends car and i felt this rush that made me almost jump of the car my heart was going super fast like 170 or 180 he called me and he told me not to worry to try to relax and before i ever saw him they did gave me beta blockers so sense he knew i had them he told me take one and i saw him the next day and he told me what was wrong thats not serious its just like a panick attack he said and who im going to talk to i dont know who else ?

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Daniellesparkles in reply to Johnnie1234

This happened to me I thought my heart was in my throat but it was the anxiety

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Johnnie1234 in reply to Daniellesparkles

like feeling it beat hard there and sometimes mean it beating hard a bit fast but you not even nervous

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Daniellesparkles in reply to Johnnie1234

Yes! I know how you feel it's horrible it happens even when your all calm :/

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Johnnie1234 in reply to Daniellesparkles

yeah this what im trying to say like is that even normal

Hello Johnnie,

Seems like the difficulties you are experiencing are the same ones you have been posting for months, Sorry they continue to disturb your life, I think if you took your medicine, it would clear up some of your body feelings and worries.

You are wearing out your body by allowing your heart to get to the pounding high rate you report in your posts.

Your constant depression and the anxiety are playing havoc on your mind and body. Your medication was prescribed to ease the terrific symptoms your anxiety and depression are putting your mind and body through.

Wouldn't trying the medication be better than what you are putting your mind and body through now?

Now I need some advice from you. I'm very sad as my special service dog named Scooter is no longer with me, after over11 years of his help for me. He became very ill and could not breathe or walk because of not being able to breathe. He died in my lap while I stroke him.

Some people are suggesting I get on the waiting list for another service dog. But I'm not sure about that. What do you think I should do?

All of us join this venue to ask for help and advice, and I need some from you. I have tried to respond to your many posts. I was hoping you could think about me once and give your advice on whether I should get another service dog. Will you do that for me? I never asked you for anything before. Please help me.

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Vbee in reply to

Omg. Pstd. So so so sorry for your loss. I remember a few weeks back you thought scooter was on his journey to the oasis in the sky but he stuck around to love you a bit longer. My heart is crying for you. Definitely get another fur creature. Do you have to have one that is specially trained? If you want a gorgeous breed that is intuitive and caring have a look a Tibetan spaniels. I have 4 of them and they are all within a metre of any of the humans in the house. They have an empathy and will always be extra cuddly or gentle of they feel you're upset. I hope that you can grieve for him without dipping into a black hole. Keep up the contact here if you feel any angst. Vx

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Johnnie1234 in reply to

wow sorry to hear that i think you should get another one im really sorry to hear that but was he sick or something ?

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Thank you, Johnnie, for writing about my service dog Scooter. He developed a fatal heart condition that caused him not to be able to breathe anymore.

I loved him and as he was a specially trained dog to help me with some physical and emotional problems, I don't know if it is even going to be possible for me to get another dog like him. He has been with me at my side for so many years doing his job, right now I am allowing myself to be sad and grieve before making any decision about another dog, I wake up in the mornings still thinking for a minute that he is there , I'll be ok,,,just going to be very sad for a long time, but that is a natural feeling.

Thank you for caring about me. I will think over your suggestion,

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Agora1 in reply to

PTSDforyears, I am truly sorry about the passing of your beloved Scooter. You had 11 years of some beautiful memories I'm sure that you forever hold in your heart. Only you can decide if and when the time might be right to go on a waiting list for another service dog. You need not only your grieving time but time to let go and not compare the next dog to Scooter (and that takes some healing) Each personal pet brings with it his own special traits. How lucky the next service dog will be when you are ready. x

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Dear Agora1,

Your sincere words are very much appreciated.

And your insight, as usual, is right on the mark.

As Scooter was a service dog with an occupation, he never was a pet per se....he was more like my calm, quiet "wing man" keeping his eye on and out for me.

And don't anyone ever tell you dogs don't have a sense of humor. Not too long ago, I slipped and fell in a goldfish pool in front of our house. Scooter stood up, but when he saw I got up on my own, he didn't bark for help....just sat back down with the attitude of "you dumb white woman".

He walked or drove all over the state with me....from walking to Mass, the grocery, the vet's, through the shopping centers, in court (one judge referenced him in the court records as "of counsel"), volunteer activities, banks, .......he made it possible for me to do so much. I am glad he made travel possible for me and I think he actually enjoyed it...planes, trains, auto and ships.... Alaskan glacier, western Canada, Denali National Park, Mexico, Italy, Las Vegas, Chicago, New York, Aurora, Louisvile, Miami, Cape Canaveral, Key West, Haiti, Jamaica, Orlando, Ft. Lauderdale, Jeffersonville, the entire eastern and western Caribbean on ship, Vatican City, Florence, France, Portugal, Barcelona, Turkey, Portland, Halifax, New Jersey, Halifax, Boulder, Vancouver, Seattle, Puerto Rico, i.e......

Our business involves travel and I would need to stay home sometimes if not for Scooter. (I realized I just mixed cities with states and countries..duh....)

My husband and I keep acting as though Scooter is still here and have to laugh. My husband wants an urn. I told him I was not going to walk that urn around the neighborhood or to Mass or the courthouse.

We'll be ok, but do not want to have another service dog who may outlive me....who would take care of an older service dog....that is a concern of ours.

We're ok, just sad. Not depression.

Thanks for letting me write all that, it helps. :)

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Agora1 in reply to

PTSDforyears, you always make me smile and bring a laugh out loud moment. I could just imagine visiting with you, it would be a hoot :)

Your travel cities sound amazing and Scooter went on all those trips? You are amazing that you were able to do all those trips as well?

I wish you well and hope that your eye changing colors are just about gone. Take care x

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HopingCat

These are the same symptoms you been writing about since you joined the site. If you didn't die then you're not going to die now. It's all anxiety. Nothing more serious than that. You smoked some weed, triggered depersonalization/ derealization and now you are stuck with the monster anxiety. You don't want to take your medication and I totally get it. I didn't take medication when the same thing happened to me when I was 18 but like I told you, get ready to suffer and fight hard for the hell to go away. It took me way over a year fighting that monsters with no help. Eventually I got better but I suffered hard. If I could tell my 18 year old self something I would tell her TAKE THE MEDICATION!!!!! Now the hell is back from just me thinking about that night and all the suffering I did. So what triggered this time for me? The fact that it was so traumatizing that just a thought brought it back.

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Vbee

TAKE YOUR MEDICATION!

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Vbee

TAKE YOUR MEDICATION.

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Vbee

Oh...did I mention.....TAKE YOUR MEDICATION!!!!!

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.Oh, Vbee...... you sound like me.

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Vbee in reply to

I am not one to leap on the medication wagon as a first response and my recent reading of Dr Kelly Brogan points towards the lack of efficacy of any antidepressants BUT i have taken zoloft on 3 separate occasions and it helped (each time though having less and less positive effect) and i use .25 xanax with awesome results at hairdresser, flights and optometrist visits!! I am all for offering support to sufferers but ffs this fella is resistant!!!!!!!!!

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I know, I know...Johnnie1234 has a great amount of issues to deal with, but he stays where he is comfortable, repeats the numerous challenges he has, won't take his meds, and so on. When I tried to get him more involved regarding offering me some advice about Scoter he told me he was a member of the venue to ventilate and not to help others. He is what he is, and as venue members become worn out and frustrated, they stop replying to him, and another group seems to pick up the slack and try to help until they become worn out, and so on. Think he just wants communication, he really is not ever going to take any advice to heart. He really has some issues and conditions beyond anything we can do.

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Johnnie1234 in reply to

i feel like i have heart problems aswell its annoying like beating hard and fast sometimes it beats wierd and sometimes i feel like i cantbreath aswell at times its crazy

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Johnnie1234

yeah its a crazy feeling this is just new to me i never experinced none of this before but yeah hopefully one day i dont go through this anymore

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Mrworrymaster

Johnnie,

I'll tell you what helped me. I stopped visiting this website daily. It pulled me away from focusing so much on my symptoms and trying to find others so stories and reassurance.

You're ok. You have an anxiety problem. You have to stop fighting and searching for other answers. Your body won't calm down until you quit feeding it fear. You need to break the cycle.

Just know, it will take months to come down. You've surged your body for 7 months now with stress chemicals. It will take time to level.

That is why meds are suggested. It helps level you out while your body re adjusts. Most of the time you only take them for about 6 months. But, you can do it without meds. Your choice.

You've been here 7 months now. You've posted 126 posts about anxiety. Freaking yourself out and looking for reassurance. Hoping to find some answer. But you already have the answer. Stop focusing on your symptoms. Your body is lying to you. Your stress chemicals are surging.

At 126 posts, you're averaging 18 posts a month. Almost 5 posts a week. That means you're on this site, nearly every day, re-telling your story. Re-living your symptoms.

You're searching for relief through others. Hoping that someone else can say "hey, that happens to me too!"

There's nothing wrong with that. Use it as a reassurance and accecpt your anxiety and move on.

But you're not accepting it. Others reassurance isn't helping you. It brings your relief for a brief time. But ultimately, you're right back here again freaking out and focusing on your symptoms.

Stop focusing on your symptoms. Stip fighting your anxiety. Approach every pain and weird thing with your body and think "so what anxiety, do your worst. I'll be fine". Roll with it and don't fight it.

You beat anxiety by stopping the cycle of stress chemicals. Stop fighting it! Stop coming to this site and re-living your symptoms.

Just breathe and live. Be patient and give your body time to come down from the hell you've put it through.

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Johnnie1234 in reply to Mrworrymaster

yeah its just first time experncing this really bad and every day daily for 7 months is just making me think something really wrong and i just cant find out its a crazy feeling

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Mrworrymaster in reply to Johnnie1234

That's because you've already found your answer. For some reason, you're not taking anxiety serisouly. Anxiety is a very real and very problematic mental illness. You need to start taking it more serisouky and working on yourself.

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Agora1 in reply to Mrworrymaster

Hi Mrworrymaster, I was wondering where you were. I have to agree with you, coming to this website daily and comparing notes can just consume you. I hope you are doing better. You certainly have found the right attitude in getting better. I'm happy for that.

Take care, keep moving forward. :)

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Mrworrymaster in reply to Agora1

Thank you Agora!

I'm on month three of my medication (celexa) and making steps towards being better.

Like Johnny, I didn't think anxiety could cause all my issues. I'm learning now and going to a therapist.

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Agora1 in reply to Mrworrymaster

We all take that first important step in our own time. I'm glad this was your time. Continued success on Celexa as well as seeing a therapist. Together they will bring you far. Stay Strong Mrworrymaster. x

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Elizabeth04

Please seek counseling.. something

You've got to get on with your life and quit worrying about your heart. Your fine. Doctors have told you that you are fine, cardiologist have told you that you are fine. You have got to believe them.

You are 20 years old. It's very unlikely that your gonna drop dead from heart disease.

It's silly to waste all this time worrying.. what if this and what if that..

You've got the diagnosis.. anxiety

Anxiety is real, you can have it for days and days. Months and months untill it turns into years

You have got to accept this anxiety and take ahold of it. Take the medication the doctor prescribed you, treat your anxiety

You have a anxiety disorder, I'm sorry

Please quit second guessing doctors and cardiologist.. trust them and move forward with your life. Your okay

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Facefoamus

I was reluctant to take medicine for anxiety. Doc prescribed low dose xanex after my wife's cancer diagnosis and I refused it. I finally gave in and took a half dose when it got bad. I am so glad I did. Most anxiety symptoms improved gradually. I still get anxious especially when I'm tired but I only have to take the medicine occasionally .

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Jassyj

Hey hun.i know it's not good to hear someone is experiencing the the same things as you blah blah but it's also good to know that you're not alone. I wake up in the middle of the night trying not to think about things. I've thought I'm having a heart attack plenty of times.and convince myself it's a panic attack and I'm living another day.. That's all that's getting me through right now.goodluck hun

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