too tired to fight against it all the time

[Helen101]

Hi my name is Helen and I have suffered from generalized anxiety as long as I can remember. At the moment I have times I give up fighting against it and seem to let it to take over.

[BonnieSue]

Hi Helen,

I have GAD too!! I don't have any problems with mine, however. I'm feeling bad about living so quiet and peaceful a life and you're fighting and struggling. Are you not on any medication? I'd be miserable without my clonazepam! Let's talk!

[Helen101 in reply to BonnieSue]

Hi Bonnie.

I am on medication. I have been applying jobs but have not heard positive response. I find it sooo difficult to get motivated to do things. I have a daughter but when she is at school I just want to lie down and sleep. She is with her dad some days.

[BonnieSue in reply to Helen101]

Do you think you are depressed?

[Helen101 in reply to BonnieSue]

yes I am depressed as well

[BonnieSue in reply to Helen101]

And are you taking any medication for that? Can you tell me all medication names and amounts for anxiety/depression?

[Helen101 in reply to BonnieSue]

paroxetine 20mg and clonazepam 1mg per day

[BonnieSue in reply to Helen101]

Do you have any anxiety still? You obviously have depression still. How long have you been on these drugs? Are you past 6 weeks on the paroxetine?

[Helen101 in reply to BonnieSue]

I still have anxiety and get depressed, I have been on so many meds in the past now only these two...yea I have been on paroxetine for over 6 weeks

[BonnieSue in reply to Helen101]

Then you can call your doctor and report that you are depressed which should prompt him or her to increase your Paxil/paroxetine until it works for you. Never stop calling every few weeks until it works for you. Ask the Dr. how long to give it to work before you call again. The same goes for the clonazepam. Exactly the same but it won't take nearly as long to know if you've got the right dose. maybe just a few days to 1 week. Ask the Dr. again how long.

Getting these drugs at the right level is critical. Then you'll be much more able to function and you'll feel so much better. You also need a counselor. Do you have one? They are necessary to helping you cope. A good counselor would have been seeing to this phoning your doctor and getting your meds up to speed among other things.

So again...do you have a counselor?

[Helen101 in reply to BonnieSue]

I will get a counselor through employment office. Doctor asks me to distract myself which I know but over the years just getting tired to fight back. My life feels empty. I do have a lovely daughter though who needs a mum.

[BonnieSue in reply to Helen101]

Yes, distraction is a very helpful tool, but your doc is supposed to have your meds step in by now and control your anxiety with the meds. Distraction is only going to work so long, a few hours, a desperate few days at most. Why isn't he/she doing his job?

Same with the antidepressants. Does nothing work? You wouldn't feel so empty and crummy if you had one that worked. Really!! You could claim your life back! What's going on here?

[Helen101 in reply to BonnieSue]

I've asked if I need to see psychiatrist but she did not referred me to one. She asked me to come and see her this week again.

[BonnieSue in reply to Helen101]

Okay, that's okay for now. Do you have to have her referral to see a psychiatrist? Because this woman doesn't seem to know how to get you to the right amount of meds you need or am I imagining this?

[Helen101 in reply to BonnieSue]

Yea, I need a referral. I don't know the answer.

[BonnieSue in reply to Helen101]

You need to get her to refer you. Do you think she won't? She obviously is in over her head and you're suffering for it. But we can get you comfortable despite her. At least we have a good shot at it. While we try to show her she's not able to do it and try to get her to refer you to a psych Dr. All we have to do is what I said: ask her when we'll know it's time to up the Paxil (which we already know is NOW if you are still depressed). And NOW is when she needs to increase the clonazepam. You have plenty of room to increase both drugs.

[Helen101 in reply to BonnieSue]

she does want to give more clonazepam...i sometimes take more than 1mg

[BonnieSue in reply to Helen101]

Good. But also the Paxil needs to go up until you're feeling much better but it has to go in the correct increments.

[jaar in reply to BonnieSue]

Sorry to but into your conversation but I'm in need to know if you up meds if your still having anxiety, that makes sense but my family and doctors seem to get me to want to up a dose when I'm having side affects. I'm confused I've been given to much info long ago and maybe didn't hear right but now I just get no clear understanding of whts what can u help

[BonnieSue in reply to jaar]

Are you talking about an anti-anxiety med?

[jaar in reply to BonnieSue]

Yes propanolol. I also have ativan. I'm suffering terrible side affects from propanol and some came and went but new ones start and the others come back but I was told years ago that this happens I think. Also people say give it time to work but I am on the edge of death it feels from these affects and no one understands and I'm not usually overly worried the way all say or I may seem I can tell you I wasn't this bad off at all before these meds. I wasnt doing good but now I'm. Having sharp pains in my temples, chest pains are less but there and I'm so much more scared because my head is way worse and it feels dangerous to get these pains I didn't have and to be told I need sphycological help when I'm suffering serious affects I did not have before and maybe I could talk to someone but I need the symptoms and side affects gone. I'm a good person, I love and care for people and always have and I'm normal I think but these side affects and symptoms and suffering is not

[BonnieSue in reply to jaar]

Why do you not lower your dose of propanolol and ease yourself off of it if it's causing you such serious side effects? If it's worse than no drug at all?

[jaar in reply to BonnieSue]

Doctor said no. My family calling me names like I'm a liar or druggie and I'm not. I was asking doc to up it but I thought I had to endure side affects because they say so much to me I'm confused. I know this medicine has made me want to die instead of feel like it every day. I had a couple good days I thought but really know I haven't I don't know how to ween oFFS and African was helping but they wouldn't fill it. I don't want any meds honestly but I can't control my attacks right now and it's not all in my head and I don't think it's just anxiety. My temples never had this pain my skin I don't know I just need help before they really do kill me. It's not funny and not some joke to go from no headaches or anxiety hardly ever for years then to daily symptoms that are really there and try unsafe. I get such sharp pains and don't know I hate saying how I feel or if I'm I. Pain to be criticized judged laughed at. I'm really suffering and am sicker unheaalthier than ever sorry to go on and on I'm unable to know what I'm allowed to do to feel well this is the worst

[BonnieSue in reply to jaar]

You can't be forced to take this medicine. Why not slowly reduce it? To see if you find a place where the side effect of pain stops? It doesn't matter that people tell you stuff or yell at you. It's your body and your business. Only you know what you are feeling. It sounds like you're feeling some very bad side effects that are warning you to reduce this medicine. Can you guess why the doctor would say "no" to you?

[jaar in reply to BonnieSue]

Hate to guess, so no but do you know if I can just stop the medical safely. I hate to get chest pain back worse but it's really not working for me like I'd hoped I take twenty mlg in morning can I just not take it or how should I do that. I also take ativan but want a pill that's good less pills and at one I can have work without addiction or another added to relieve the other then another

[BonnieSue in reply to jaar]

I would taper off which would be cutting the dose down to 10 mg and see how you handle that. Also call your doctor and tell him/her that that's what you want to do. Don't leave him out of it or he can cause you a lot of grief. Try to get him on board and explain why you are needing to cut it down. Just leave a message for him. Then wait a few weeks to see how you feel with the 10 mg reduction because that may be all you need to do. Best of luck to you. Remember that I am not a doctor and to keep your doctor in the loop of who you tell about any changes you make.

[mxvalentino in reply to Helen101]

Hi, Sorry to interrupt, But have had feeling like that but been taking floxetine for about 5years and marzipan if have had issues with sleeping, helps alot, I dont usually comment either but you sound a good person so... I felt empty cos of previous love loss.. but hey been over 10yrs and a daughter later, im 32 had 4 skilled jobs fabricating thermo welder ect looking to go college on a carpentry course and would aim for a self employed kitchen fitter or do most things, a good relationship would help and piece back the happiness for all,

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[Cicinoodle]

get off your medication and start an exercise and good nutrition program. The medication is making you sicker, you may have undiagnosed postpartum depression. Your hormones will regulate in time, don't let people talk you into medication, that's the problem, with the world today.

Talk to your friends or a trusted reputable counselor that does not push drugs. your daughter is top priority, enjoy every moment with her.

you can do this!

[Vbee]

Anxiety and depression go hand in hand. Sleeping all day will give you more dreaming time and dreaming = no deep restorative sleep. Sounds like you are missing a bit of purpose and direction. Have you got a good bunch of friends? Social interaction will pep you up. Have you got a supportive partner? Go on a date night and forget your troubles for a few hours? Can you go for a walk? Exercise, movement, any activity can snap the mood and lift you for a moment - and recovery starts with moments. Have a read of Claire Weekes writings - google her. She breaks what you are feeling down into understandable chunks - you are worn out from all the nervous energy that you expend. Medication can have a place in recovery but ultimately you have the answers within! 🌻🍉🌷🌴

[Helen101 in reply to Vbee]

I don't have social life, no friends, family. yeah I lack purpose. I am not able to concentrate reading..only thing I do study retail course online...no I don't have a partner to go date with..previous relationships were using me...I have been told to be too generous and I need to learn to say no. I would like to do things and be active like other people...but isn't that called depression when you are not able to do those things you used to do. you don't tell person who suffers high blood pressure stop meds and suddenly distract from thinking his bloodpressure and do some sudden vigorous exercise for example. Same with depression..which affects motivation centre and mind...no sudden easy way out necessarily.

[Vbee in reply to Helen101]

I totally understand. There is no easy way. No fast way. But there IS a way. One step at a time. Motivation is zero and it is so hard to make an effort. But don't aim too high. Congratulate yourself for the smallest of achievements. Get your child school lunch - high five! Put a load of washing on - fanstastic. Walked to the letterbox - well done. Put all these small things together and you will be doing a great job. Even standing up from a sitting position can shift depression. Shift it for one minute. Maybe two. Build on that. If you have problems concentrating on reading then you can listen to Claire Weekes on audio - here is a link (it's like listening to your favorite aunt and it's like she's sitting there right next to you). junior-anxiety-depression-e...

Scroll down to the 4 mp3 audio sessions.

🍍🌺🐞⚘🐊🐢

[Helen101]

yeah those small steps count. And being kind to yourself. When my daughter is with her dad...even though I miss her, I decide to take this time to myself and enjoy time alone in the evening.

[LDS32]

Fighting anxiety is a sure way to stay stuck in an anxiety cycle. You can't fight you're own mind and win. Acceptance is the only way out. I've done it all CBT, therapy and meds. It all works for a time but eventually stops working. Accepting you have the condition and living your life anyway is the way out.

[Helen101]

yeah living it anyway like sleeping after sleeping...that is not the life I want to live but I thank God for the rest and quietness as life always changes. Bad weather does not last forever. Thinking and thanking good things in my life.

[anwarhussain5]

Biggest thing is to control your thoughts. Keep fasts. Take exercises or divert your mind

[SuzyQ1948]

I know the feeling Helen.

[Helen101]

I was given low dose of lithium...I have come up from depression...but just had three day migraine which I been used to get once a month. I don't wish migraines to anyone...just have gone through it...no headache today...but feeling anxiety dropping pain meds...health is a one step at the time...had anxiety this morning after all painkillers stopping which did not really help anyway. Thankful that no headache...and was able to go to swim with my daughter yesterday as it was Saturday. Having employment office and councellor appointments tomorrow. I have been applying jobs but how can I work if I am like this? My employment office worker promised to make my resume in two for two different qualifications. I have not seen that yet. She asked me to wait before applying...but we have to apply 20 jobs per month. My girlfriend wondered why they push me to work with this kind of condition. Maybe because I have not shown myself when I feel really down. Last time I went to the employment office I just cried..I went to doctor ...I just cried ...went to chemist...I just cried.. I could not hold it inside anymore. For me it was relief.

First time ever having counselling from employment office tomorrow. On Friday will have psychiatrist appointment after long time as my old one retired and others did not take new clients. Just enjoying little things at the moment and my daughter. ...my two dogs. Thank you for this site and your support. I really appreciate you as people who don't suffer from it won't understand. Thank You.

[Helen101 in reply to Helen101]

Feeling better, when was put on low dose of lithium, taking paroxetine and clonazepam when needed. I am not yet on so called therapeutic dose of lithium in my body but already has been able to function better, doing things and planning future. Having employment office today. Looking after my daughter, she did not feel well this morning. I see new psychiatrist now...I been thinking to study nursing but he said not to think it yet, can be too stressful for me at this point.

[Helen101]

Just got through 3 day bad migraine..and i am still alive...cried today as it felt great not to have migraine...I have tried many things..it is hormonal...once a month... Doc...asked me to take 40mg propranol twice daily... i read it can cause depression though...have taken it to my heart palpitations before...any comments?