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Hello Everyone,

This question is directed to seniors, the older the better! (I am 71.5). As I look back on my life over the decades, whenever I became sleepy during the day, that sleepiness was gradual.

Starting about one-half year ago came an abrupt, noticeable and, for me, disturbing change. As we grow older our bodies change. But we have no owner's manual! It's almost impossible to say if a change is due to aging or something else. But we can compare notes, and that's where I need your help.

The new change that I'm talking about that disturbs me is that, during the day, I may become suddenly sleepy, something immediate, almost like a wave, that practically compels me to lie down. This frightens me. Yet, when I do sleep and wake up, I feel better. So this makes me think that the problem was being tired that manifested itself in a new way. If rest didn't help, then I'd probably visit the GP ASAP.

Meanwhile, FYI, I try to maintain a disciplined sleep schedule: I go to bed at the same time every night; I wake up at the same time every morning; I sleep for 9.5 hours per night; I nap no more than two times per day and only for 30 minutes (light sleep only). If you fall into a deep sleep during the day (Stage III, slow wave sleep) it can disrupt your night sleep. Plus, I'm improving my diet and exercising during the day.

So, to recap, does anyone else, seniors in particular, experience this sudden sleepiness onslaught and what's your view on it? Much appreciated. (My psychiatrist has prescribed a fairly extensive bloodwork panel but I don't have those results yet).

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b1b1b1

Try drinking a cup of coffee or taking a walk or doing some exercises. If you sleep 9 1/2 hours a night you should not need two naps per day during your 70s. See what your blood tests show and keep in mind that excessive tiredness can also be a symptom of depression.

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linuxusr in reply tob1b1b1

Thank you. Yes, I must await my blood tests result. I'm aware of the connection between depression and sleepiness but I am mostly anxious. However, it could be that I do have some depression that I'm not fully aware of. I am exercising and sometimes that does give me energy. Coffee later than the morning would not be a good idea . . . preventing me from sleeping when I really do need to sleep.

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Cheetahone

Hi linuxusr,

I use iOS on my Mac lol.

I’m 68 and do get tired suddenly after I eat. My GP did bloodwork and found that I’m low on iron so she prescribed iron supplements. They have helped.

I also must say that I am vegan 🌱 so I eat healthy and it also helps my depression and anxiety.

Good for you for sleeping regularly, eating healthy and exercising. All ways to live better and longer.

Take care and hope you feel better.

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linuxusr in reply toCheetahone

Thank you very much. I appreciate it. As least you know that after you eat, you get suddenly tired, that you make the connection. I just remembered that my psychoanalyst (M.D.) told me that after eating that blood flow to the gut increases and decreases to the brain which could explain that. What scares me is the suddeness when I don't know the reason. It could be that I'm "just tired," but I perceive this as an attack on my mind, my body taking over, etc. Well, I guess that's not surprising as my principal disturbance is mind-body dissassociation, where my mind and body are disconnected.

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RS1974

Yes I get that sudden sleepiness. Im 50 and in pre menopausal. The last year I only sleep 5 hrs a night and nap during the day.

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marsbarr in reply toRS1974

Been there,doing that

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linuxusr in reply tomarsbarr

?? I don't understand.

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marsbarr in reply tolinuxusr

I am experiencing this. I get sleepy after eating

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gettingsomewhere in reply tomarsbarr

I googled this and in some cases blood sugar levels can cause sleepiness. Worth checking out. When I'm tired anyway too many carbs can cause drowsiness.

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linuxusr in reply toRS1974

Thank you for this. Do you feel that this sudden sleepiness is due to changes as we age? I never remember experiencing this when I was younger. That's why it's frightening.

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gettingsomewhere

I hope you get some answers to explain these recent changes.

There maybe many factors at play especially if you're on medication. Sounds like you are looking into everything which is good.

My husband is almost 73 and often naps during the day especially if we've had a busy schedule with the grandkids etc. But he can keep himself awake if needed.

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linuxusr in reply togettingsomewhere

Thank you for this. If you don't mind me asking, how many times does he nap during the day? Can he nap too many times such that is night sleep is disrupted? Mostly, I want to know if others, such as your husband, experience this sudden, nearly overwhelming tiredness that scares me.

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gettingsomewhere in reply tolinuxusr

Hi again. He often comes over sleepy in the afternoon 3 ish and if the opportunity arises he will have a kip. Its usually only at this time of day. He deliberately has only a light lunch of fruit because he says it interferes with activity/ energy levels. He isn't on medication for anything and is physically & mentally in good shape.

He starts yawning, gets comfy then nods off but if he needs to stay awake then he'll revive himself quickly. He's not like you describe.

If he naps he'll go to bed later, but usually our bedtime is around 11.30pm.

I like to keep to a sleep routine, I'm the one who has insomnia at times, but I set the alarm if home for 7.30am regardless of what sort of night I've had. I can manage with little sleep and try not to get uptight about it as I've learnt it doesn't help.

Today he got up at 8.30 and is now gardening and doing other jobs. I can't really guess if he'll need a nap later on.

This has been normal for him for some years now since he retired..

I hope this helps a little.

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linuxusr in reply togettingsomewhere

Yes, it does help, and I appreciate your willingness to share. You are correct: Maintaining a normal sleep routine is critical.

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gettingsomewhere in reply tolinuxusr

How do you sleep at night? Do you feel refreshed when you wake up in the morning? I know sleep apnea can interfere with the quality of one's sleep which may lead to feeling tired during the day. Just a thought.

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linuxusr in reply togettingsomewhere

I don't have sleep apnea. I always feel refreshed when I wake up. If I don't, I sleep some more. That is why it is so surprising to me that I have sudden sleepiness when I've rested well at night.

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gettingsomewhere in reply tolinuxusr

Can you come round ie wake yourself up once you feel this overwhelming tiredness or do you have to nap? Does this make any difference I wonder?

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linuxusr in reply togettingsomewhere

This is what I try and do: It is critical to maintain a normal sleep schedule, so I go to bed and wake up at the same time every day. I don't permit myself to nap more than twice per day and only for 30 minutes. If I have taken my two naps and it is not yet my bedtime and I am suddenly sleepy, I force myself to stay awake. If I don't do that, I will go to bed earlier and earlier and earlier. Last night, for example, when I was suddenly sleepy and forced myself to stay awake, the tiredness passed . . .

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gettingsomewhere in reply tolinuxusr

Hmmm I can see why you're mystified as this is a recent change for you.I'd be interested in knowing what you find out if you're happy to share of course.

My sleep pattern is a bit of a curiosity to me as well but I live with my episodes of insomnia and just get on with it. I don't nap during the day no matter how tired I often feel.

Best of luck!

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