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… shitting yourself when your anxiety or depression is rough. It’s every day now.

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Sillysausage234

Literally?might be ibs

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Penny-dumped-Leonard in reply toSillysausage234

literally. I am only asking on how to cope with it and not seek an alternate diagnosis. Emotionally how do I cope with the embarrassment?

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Sillysausage234 in reply toPenny-dumped-Leonard

sorry wasn’t diagnosing just wondering if something else I had hpylori once for months give me the shittz constantly ….emotionally …..not really qualified in that department to offer advice …tena pads maybe so you can keep the embarrassment to a minimum…..🤷🏻‍♂️…best wishes

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Babe1213 in reply toPenny-dumped-Leonard

I am going to ask a couple of questions about symptoms, not to diagnose but to offer appropriate suggestions. 1) Are you aware at the time you are doing this? 2) Do you a) get the urge to go or (b) does it just happen? If answer to No 1 is, No, then you should seek medical help, you may also have hidden issues from childhood, they too will need to be addressed. Sillysausage234 suggestion of Tena pads will be very helpful, so too will be 'Pelvic floor exercises. If No 1 is, Yes, you could try Dulco-ease capsules, which will help to regulate and soften. If the answer to Number 2 is a) you need to speed up to get to the toilet - the Pelvic Floor Exercises should help. If 2 (b) is the issue, you must seek medical help. If you are worried about the embarrassment of speaking to a medical professional (which I was) 'Don't Be! This is what they are trained to do, examinations may be embarrassing also, but isn't better to be a bit red faced and cured than it is to just put up with it, maybe for a very long while. Also check out your diet, and avoid foods that may cause the sudden urge. Ensure you drink plenty of watery liquids. I treated my emotions and embarrassment with humour - that worked for me.

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Babe1213 in reply toBabe1213

Sorry I should have added hidden issues from childhood may be from any type of abuse, neglect, sexual, mental, etc:

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Penny-dumped-Leonard in reply toBabe1213

doing butt hole kegals atm … multi tasking like a mother ducka

I’m using them.

Although I wish it just stop here we are; that’s life.

I feel embarrassed and ashamed that it happens. I know how to clean it up and what to do … it’s just so embarrassing.

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Sillysausage234 in reply toPenny-dumped-Leonard

I understand my friends daughter has ulcerative colitis she has kind of an app for the nearest public toilets when outdoors says it’s helping as she’s able to plan journeys better .

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Penny-dumped-Leonard in reply toSillysausage234

really? Now that’s a great suggestion! What’s the app?

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Sillysausage234 in reply toPenny-dumped-Leonard

it’s uk I see you’re in the states I’m sure you guys got one similar

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Penny-dumped-Leonard in reply toSillysausage234

very helpful! Pants poopers unite!

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Sillysausage234 in reply toPenny-dumped-Leonard

glad you joined no judgment here You’ll find ,enjoy your evening as best as is possible

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Penny-dumped-Leonard in reply toSillysausage234

how’d you cope when you pooped yourself?

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Sillysausage234 in reply toPenny-dumped-Leonard

my situation was more every time I eat something it would go straight to my ass with lots of gurgles along the way ,felt really Ill though too ….doctors fobbing me off ….then hospital done a h pylori test and was that ….sneaky little things crawling around get in your intestines …stopped eating for awhile I remember as was sick of sitting on the toilet

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Penny-dumped-Leonard in reply toSillysausage234

I feel you, boss!

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Lve2dance in reply toSillysausage234

I have crohn's since I was 12. Even though I am in remission I occasionally have issues. Stress is not good for anyone.. Probably a good idea to rule everything out tho.

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Sillysausage234 in reply toLve2dance

hi again ..😏…crohns can make you really feel unwell I believe during flare ups ,must be miserable at times 12 is only a baby ,that sucks ….do they know what actually causes that I know they tested me for that in hospital….are you constantly having to monitor everything you eat ?…. Great you’re in remission,that’s really positive stuff

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Lve2dance in reply toSillysausage234

Sweet thanks. I don't have to monitor too much. I can't eat a lot of fried stuff or a lot of oil even healthy oil..I'm definitely lucky 🍀 I don't need medicine right now. Or surgery. I definitely am grateful. I still am very aware of local bathrooms and have to explain to people that I'm patient but my body is not.

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Lve2dance in reply toSillysausage234

It can be hereditary.. No one truly knows exactly what causes it.

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Sillysausage234 in reply toLve2dance

that’s what I’m thinking,bowel health seems to quite the unknown,yet so important,best wishes with the dancing don’t ever stop

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Lve2dance in reply toSillysausage234

😎I dance a round my house sometimes LOL I'll put on my favorite Tunes on Spotify or on my Alexa

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Sillysausage234 in reply toLve2dance

good stuff i got an Alexa thing for xmas ….feel stupid talking to a little globe but it’s getting set up today 😄thanks for the reminder I’ve got Amazon music I never use so will be dancing myself soon

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Lve2dance in reply toSillysausage234

It tells corny jokes.. You can ask random things 😂

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Sillysausage234 in reply toLve2dance

I’m getting used to my firestick it’s a godsend for finding tv stuff quickly

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Lve2dance in reply toSillysausage234

Definitely. I have an Amazon fire 🔥 TV I love it.

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Babe1213 in reply toPenny-dumped-Leonard

There is no shame in what our bodily functions choose to do - we are all unique human beings. Let me tell you what happened to me when I had a 'virtual colonoscopy' it was horrendous, the technicians were pumping me full of air for the scan, my rectum wouldn't/couldn't hold it. I was pooping and passing wet wind all through. I was so embarrassed I laughed all the way through. To cove up my distress I made the technicians laugh all the way through. They were great! But I was so glad to get away! I often use humour to cover up shame and embarrassment. I used to be a Brownie Guide Leader, our MOTTO was, Be prepared! Can you tuck a small pack of aids into your handbag - clean panties, baby wipes, plastic bag for soiled linen, then as soon as you realise what has happened, find a toilet, bathroom, loo - and freshen up.

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Penny-dumped-Leonard in reply toBabe1213

pants poopers unite! In bowels we don’t trust!

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Itsjust

embarassment is shame in terms of emotion, it's a natural response to a perceived flawed when compared to other people, evolutionary talking it hurts so much because belonging meant you would have more chances in surviving with your tribe, trying to look the same as them, right now in actuality, many people face the same problems as you, and have reactions to the threat system response, which is your body natural response to fear, and it's a response like any other, although for you the threat became associated with your sense of self, and it says nothing about you or who you are, but as a involuntary response to an activated nervous system, which is not your fault. Think like this, everybody poops, and everybody gets diarrea when it's nervous, so you are not that different, i belive it's about the controlling of that response, and in your case i assume it's less controlable, but in other people they too have to run to the bathroom to do something, so it's actually not that controlable too. I hoped i helped!

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Dolphin14

Have you talked to your Dr?

🐬

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Penny-dumped-Leonard in reply toDolphin14

yes.

Many many many many many times over with many different medications.

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Dolphin14 in reply toPenny-dumped-Leonard

I'm sorry this is happening. You are so young and I can't imagine what it's like to have this problem.

Have you seen a gastroenterologist?

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Penny-dumped-Leonard in reply toDolphin14

yes. Many times.

Serotonin is made in the gut.

I take medication to help that.

However when the stress exceeds the medication, the cycle continues.

I had to call crisis intervention the other day because my partner drunks and now punched walls and grabs my face when he’s mad.

Yes I know it’s domestic violence. Yes I know I deserve better. Yes I am taking steps to resolve it. But in the meantime I shit myself which impedes me moving forward.

I have exhausted other places to stay otherwise … I would be there.

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Dolphin14 in reply toPenny-dumped-Leonard

You are dealing with so much. If you need to talk I'm here to listen

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Penny-dumped-Leonard in reply toDolphin14

thank you!

I’m sorry you’re coping with PTSD. If I could remove the trauma from your life’s experience I would.

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Dolphin14 in reply toPenny-dumped-Leonard

Thank you :)

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Penny-dumped-Leonard in reply toDolphin14

I mentally punched the person in the face for you. If it was a natural disaster I’m giving nature the finger for the moment.

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Dolphin14 in reply toPenny-dumped-Leonard

You just made me laugh :) :) You are fabulous

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1962faithorn in reply toPenny-dumped-Leonard

I'm so sorry

Yes.

That helps.

I know everyone poops.

I’m just super embarrassed that it’s in my pants!

At 40.

The more stress that’s around me the worse it gets.

Imodium AD?

Didn’t work. :(

lol……I go through and I thought I was the only one while it can be embarrassing 😳 knowing is half the battle , being able to pin point anxiety is about to peak will help ! Well for me it does ….not only do I shit but when I’m stressed out I pee in the bed I have learned how to deal by pen pointing my stress factors and some may say oh it’s a medical problem but it’s night I have been to pcp directed to urology and nothing …..it all came back to my stress hope this helps

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Penny-dumped-Leonard in reply toBulliedinlife1981

bullied , care to be apart of the board of directors?

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designguy

Have you tried therapy or antidepressant/anxiety medication for it. I found klonopin helped reduce my anxiety.

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Penny-dumped-Leonard in reply todesignguy

klonopin is so awesome! But I got off it.

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designguy in reply toPenny-dumped-Leonard

I did too but I still use it occasionally.

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SayNOtoPanic

Sorry you’re dealing with this. Sending you good vibes. Have you tried any meditation like quick ones u can do to release stress or decrease the anxiety when it starts going up? Sending you hugs.

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Penny-dumped-Leonard in reply toSayNOtoPanic

panic, you’re on the team if you want to be. Chief of philanthropy. We donate pads to the poor poopers in the community.

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masane

i take klonopin too but i know the feeling of loose bowel movements as a psychosomatic responee to anxiety. I take imodium which deals with the physical problems and with that gone you have one less thing to be anxious about

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012703060610

There are many posts here, I love it. I related immediately to your post. I am just waking up on the West Coast of the US. I am 43 and struggle with autoimmune. However, my ENTIRE life has revolved around a toilet. I remember in middle and high school having ridiculous plans where I could go comfortably. My parents didn't teach me the value of water so I was in a cycle and am still in a cycle from IBS C and IBS D. While my autoimmune diseases are nuts, my GI stuff is something I cannot live with. I have asked for a Stoma...it is that bad. Here's the issue w/ your gut...it is usually something else. IBD and UC conditions are horrific, but most other things start with gut health. I saw the H Ploryi post and that ain't fun at all. I am up now which is just past 3am. I had to take milk of mag this morning so that I can leave the house and get a few hours with the kids. I could tell the past few days I was getting backed up. For the ...I need to stop going....this is harder for me. I am very sensitive to all of my medications. I use an immunosuppressant that gives me horrible bowel pain for two days. My husband and I decided to just try milk of mag the day after the weekly shot and it has given me 1 day back. I have 1 day a week I feel ok unless down with a cold. I have urinary and bowel incontinence. Imagine a beautiful mini van and a kids toilet built into it. Yeah, that kid potty is for me. At least a few times a week, I have to pull over and rush to the toilet. This week I had 12 hours of time on the toilet unable to go or going too much. I had no idea why this was happening. The key here is hydration and to avoid weight loss. I had lost 40 pounds at one point because I decided it just was easier to work (ie I don't work now) and eat something small at night safe. No one can live this way and mine is totally anxiety related. Now, I have hyper mobility in addition to other ailments. It is estimated that hyper mobile patients are 16x more likely to experience GAD. In addition, they report ongoing pelvic floor problems with both bowels and urination. I am in pelvic floor and it helps some. However, they are always in the morning and I did have an accident in their PT room. I am done feeling or being embarrassed about any of it. I am on klonopin like others, but that drug isn't my problem drug. I also take Nortiptalyne which is an older tricyclic antidepressant. SSRIs bring on the IBS D. It acts in two ways....slows the digestive tract and is for depression. Most tricyclics are like this. Originally I was amitryptaline for the same but for some reason that one constipated me A LOT! In the end I have gastroparesis which means my stomach just doesn't move. The med to get it working has unreversable side effects (tremors) so I have been afraid to try.

My little bit of advice: Find a good doctor to start with that can make referrals. This may not be who you see today. I had to try four PCPs until I felt like we were talking the same language. Drs are still very burned out. Three GI docs until I found he one. It is going to not be fun getting GI work ups...but you will learn a lot. I underwent abdominal CTs, abdominal MRE, two colonoscopy, two endocsopys, one pill study and a hydascan for my gallbladder. In the end it was only the capsule study that showed the gastroparesis. Three years after the weight loss, now I know it was not autoimmune related but GI related to my stomach. However, my autoimmune systems dip into GI issues. When in a flare, my bowels go immediately. I recently had a new flare when things seemed under control from an autoimmune perspective but a stressful event made me flare. I had to go back on prednisone steroids to stop a full on attack of the autoimmune disease. I had COVID that kicked off my strange autoimmune responses. No one should live this way and I am a testament that it SUCKS.

As for domestic abuse, I am so sorry. This in itself is enough anxiety to trigger your bowels. I too was once in an abusive marriage. I stayed for the kids as I watched him not work and drink away the days. He would get very upset with me when drinking and I did as much avoiding as I could. I worked for the family and in an industry that required full time travel. I ended up hiring an au pair (even though it is ridiculous as he was home) just to ensure the kids safety. I knew I was getting it, but wanted to feel safe for them. If you do have kids, a full pelvic work up should be done. Many of my friends have incontinence both bowel and/or urinary. Know that you are so not alone here whether you had kids or not. I do the pelvic floor exercises and have a very good specialist for this. I have been able to lose my urinary incontinence with some exercises and a new tampon insert that holds the bladder better.

If you do not have a therapist, I highly recommend one. I see a PTSD therapist where we work on some trauma and trust me .... crapping yourself in public is a trauma. I go back to school age trying to release some of that negative energy I started even when young. I tried 6 therapists until feeling safe with her. She has changed my life. I see her once a week and missed last week due to another appointment. I was really upset I didn't see her to get some things out of my brain. She is very good at telling me when my worry is ridiculous or my worry is normal.

I know all of this overhangs on insurance and how much coverage you have. I am fortunate to not even need referrals. The past three years I maxed out the family plan by the end of January. My husband literally is only working (new and stable husband) for me to have insurance. Believe it or not, I have to pay my Ex my disability money.

I feel so close to your journey and I also so sorry to hear all of this. Everyone always says to put yourself first and even that seems impossible. I am sure you feel your condition not only restricts your daily life, but it also isn't self care. You basically need to deal with mini crisis after mini crisis. I haven't found the recipe yet to come out of a mini crisis and feel OK.

Last note just to be clear, if you had any kids and birth via c Section, you could be struggling with adhesion issues. I have major adhesive disease from four abdominal surgeries. My organs are all hung in a sack that looks like a bee hive. I saw a general surgeon last week who said they wouldn't touch them in fear of nicking another organ...in particular the small bowel. I left in tears. In my last surgery, they spent lots of time cleaning them out. They always come back and usually worse, but my autoimmune diagnosis means I am living my best health right now. That surgery gave me 3 years of normal bowel movements. I must always monitor for full bowel blocks and I even can get partial ones resolved on my own with 200 ounces of fluid. Just a random note in case you experience a C section.

Hugs to you my friend.

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Penny-dumped-Leonard in reply to012703060610

you’re chief of security!

Have you gone to physical therapy? I had electrodes put on my genital and buttock areas to test my pelvic floor. My therapist was really good. She then offered exercises to do at home. Helped some but you have to be dedicated to do it everyday.

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a butt stim? I’ll try anything twice.

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Lol. Yep my whole sessions with her were butt stims.🤣

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chief information officer!

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Zhangliqun

On the psychological end, if it's really something resulting from your illness that can't be helped, you have to remind yourself that it makes no more sense to be embarrassed about it than someone with the flu should be embarrassed about coughing or sneezing.Now when it happens, when the stench is wafting up and you know everyone smells it, especially around strangers, this can be tough. But beating yourself down with shame will just make it worse.

Just keep looking/fighting for a cure or at least effective treatment. Forcing yourself to be optimistic will make the optimism real after a while, which will reduce the severity of depressive and anxiety episodes which will in turn reduce the incidents of self-dumpery.

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Penny-dumped-Leonard in reply toZhangliqun

management material!

Until you get this checked out by a medical provider, I recommend immodium. You can buy it over the counter and it's safe and effective. I'm an RN and have OCD and Crohn's Disease. As I got older I no longer needed it, but I took a small dose for years. Good luck!!!

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it didn’t help but I’ll call my doctor Monday.

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TryingSoHard66

I’m so sorry. Sometimes I feel a lot of anxiety and depression too. Like lately. Like right now. Just wanted to let you know, you aren’t alone. And I hope you feel better soon!

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Penny-dumped-Leonard in reply toTryingSoHard66

chief motivation officer

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P.S. I love your user name, I’m a huge fan of Big Bang Theory! Watch the reruns all the time!

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Oh yes know the feeling

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This is so true catgirls1976. I'm not a vindictive person by any means, but I do hope that line manager has got or will get his just deserts, there is no reason to treat anyone in such a way, abusing a pregnant lady is taking spite and malice to a whole new level. Thank you for sharing. x

the thing is he thinks I’m the pretty one like penny. Really I’m the super smart one like Leonard. He’s about to find out the hard way, too. Fuck around and find out.

Awaiting a response from my attorney Joann

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It saddens me to hear this happened to you, catgirls1976, but You can rise above this nastiness and take back control. I believe for every negative there is a positive and that all things happen for a purpose. As you said you feel 'by accident' they did you a favour, hold that thought, along with the knowledge, 'As one door closes, another - better - door opens.' By taking back control you are showing who is the stronger, wiser person. When you get your new, job, You will shine! Don't let this experience get you down, keep moving forward and you will succeed! xx

I’m being cyberstalked and harassed. I need help pulling an IP address. Anyone help?

runnybunny would you consider shitting on the board of directors please? I’d be honored.

official rule: we all produce and or provide our own stools! First rule of order! All in favor say aye. Opposed say nay.

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