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So I am not getting why I am not losing weight.

I have completed C25K, changed diet to healthy eating and now on a vegan low carb and still only lost a total of 1kg (over a total of 9wks). My overall goal is not to be on a yo-yo diet I really just want to eat health, exercise and once a week enjoy a glass of red wine with a packet of crisp. Surely this is doable????

Think I might need to see a nutritionists...

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Hi this is a quick reply as it's time for my Admin slot to close and take a break(came on at 7) but I wonder if this link might help?

dietdoctor.com/how-to-lose-...

Sometimes we just need to tweak something about our approach. I hit a L-O-N-G plateau of STS and going up/down of about 2-3lbs and was pulling my hair out. Read the link and then focused on Daily carb being less than 100g and bingo, weight began decreasing again.

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Chestnut21 in reply toDiane2

Great article that put everything in to perspective - thank you

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Diane2 in reply toChestnut21

It made a huge difference to me (shed 9lbs since mid March when read it and actioned tweaks myself) thanks to moreless who gave the link to someone else on site and I spotted it!

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Exercise and weight loss are not as directly linked as the "eat less/move more" mantra suggests.

And it's worth wrapping a tape around your waist, and seeing if the fat is moving, even if the weight isn't.

But going low carb and losing practically no weight is weird. When you eat low carb, your glycogen levels drop, and your body releases water, so that' s several kilograms. I know low carb vegan is harder; perhaps you aren't as low carb as you think.

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TBH I doubt it's possible to do vegan low-carb, unless you're adding coconut and palm oil to everything. Vegetarian, sure; vegan, probably not.

If you're going vegan as a last-ditch way of losing weight (as opposed to ethical reasons) it's unlikely to be the most effective route, nor the most healthy. Humans are true omnivores and we seem to thrive best with at least a modest amount of animal products in our diets. There are lots of people selling ethically-raised eggs and dairy these days.

Low-carb is incredibly easy, but people tend to sabotage their own efforts by trying to incorporate various ideas from mainstream "healthy eating" advice. You eat vegetables, meat, eggs, and dairy in whatever amounts you like; you replace the carbs with adequate fat from whatever sources you like. You eat when you're hungry and stop when you're full. That's pretty much it. Most people see results very quickly, but for some it takes a few weeks to kick in.

There's absolutely no reason why you can't enjoy your glass of wine and crisps now and then, but you need to "hit the reset button" first. After that, it'll be plain sailing!

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Subtle_badger in reply toTheAwfulToad

I don't think there is ethical milk or eggs to a vegan standard available commercially, or at least not yet.

A technique has just been developed to determine the sex of newly laid hens eggs, but until that is available commercial, about half of all chickens born in the egg industry are killed straight after hatching.

Similarly for cows. Male calves are veal, there is no option. They might be veal as soon as they are born or a few months later, for "ethical" milk. It does not seem clear to me that the latter is better than the former.

I do have a vegan friend who eats eggs. He has a flock of rescued battery hens in his garden, and eats the eggs they lay. It's the only way I can see you can ethically eat eggs. He does not have a cow, I don't think! 🐮 🥛 🐥 🥚

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IMO the ethical arguments for veganism is utter nonsense (vegetarianism, less so). Nature runs on death - every square inch of soil under your feet is a killing field, with some bug being eaten by some slightly bigger bug. Most vegans are completely unaware (or are willfully ignorant) that their lifestyle involves as many dead animals as the average carnivore; they just happen to be un-fluffy ones, mostly, or "collateral damage", such as rats gassed in grain silos or fieldmice mangled in combine harvesters.

Having said that I am personally disgusted by the senseless killing that goes on in the farming industry these days in the name of "efficiency". There is no need to kill male chicks, for example - caponization with calcium chloride would be humane if done properly, and the animal could live out a modest lifespan (a year or so). The efficiency wonks would protest "What? You can't feed a chicken for a year when you're going to sell it for ten quid!", but that's largely because said experts don't understand that the principal economic output of a chicken is manure and soil-scratching, not meat, and that chickens on pasture need minimal feed supplementation if you're prepared to wait.

I could do a full-length rant on this, but perhaps I'd better not :)

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