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lab results on January 8, 25 look good

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i have been trying to figure out why i have been feeling tired lately. Endo won’t increase my dose of 50 mcg of synthroid.

Here are latest lab results-

Tsh 0.88 Range 0.35-4.94, sept, 24 1.71

T4free 1.00 R 0.69-1.48, Sept 0.95

T3 free 2.63 R 1.71-3.71, May 2.39

Vitamin D 30 R 30-100, September 24 was 36

I always been low on Vitamin D, taking extra Vitamin D 2500, calcium 500, magnesium glycinate 240 mg.

Tsh seems better than last time, i doubt endo will increase the dose after reviewing the lab results.

Anyone else experiencing tiredness on Hashimoto?

My diet and exercise is pretty good for a small built 80 year old female though Osteoporosis/ osteopenia is there! Some bones are weaker than before! Here in usa Medicare only allows bone density test every 2 years!

Thanks

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greygoose profile image
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FT4: 1 pmol/l (Range 0.69 - 1.48) 39.24%

FT3: 2.63 pmol/l (Range 1.71 - 3.71) 46.00%

Why won't your doctor increase your dose? Your Free levels are very low. What was your TSH?

Why are you taking calcium? Did you test it and find it low? As you are taking vit D you shouldn't be low on calcium because taking vit d increases absorption of calcium from food. But you do need to take vit K2-MK7 to make sure the calcium goes into the bones and teeth and doesn't build up in the arteries and soft tissues.

I realise you have osteoporosis, but calcium is neither a cure nor a prevention of that. In fact, it can make things worse by making your bones brittle.

If your vit D is low, your ferritin probably is, too. And that will make you very tired. Have you had that tested?

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Suzi_ in reply togreygoose

Tsh 0.88 R 0.35-4.94 , Sept was 1.71

Ferritin in Sept was 28.16 R 4.6-204

I have been asked by the dr to take calcium, Caltrate. Because of Osteoporosis.

Thanks for reminding me about k2, i have it but lately have stopped taking it( too much to do for my husband with dementia)

Dr will look at the numbers & say results are in the range, no need to increase the dose! I am waiting for the doctor to read my report.

B12 is always v good 882, R 211-911.

Should i increase my dose of Vitamin D. Sometimes i am anemic!

Thanks

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greygoose in reply toSuzi_

Your TSH isn't even very low, you have plenty of room to increase. And it's not just about being in-range, it's about your results being in the right place in the range to make you well.

As I said, calcium is neither a cure nor a treatment for osteoporosis. Be very careful of this doctor, I don't really think he knows what he's doing. Did he at least test your calcium before prescribing calcium? It could cause a lot of problems. Calcium supplements are not a good thing to take. And, in any case, magnesium is far more important for bones than calcium.

Anemia is nothing to do with vit D. Anemia is either low B12 - and yours is good - or low iron/ferritin. And your ferritin is very, very low. You need to have a full iron panel to find out what's going on.

I'm not an expert in vit D, so if I were you, I would start a new post asking just about that. Someone here will be able to tell you how much you should be taking. But you shouldn't be taking the calcium as well unless your level is very low. :)

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humanbean in reply togreygoose

Anemia is either low B12 - and yours is good - or low iron/ferritin.

And/Or could be low folate. The best form of folate supplement is methylfolate which, in the UK, is available without prescription from many websites that sell supplements.

Avoid folic acid. To be useful to the body folic acid, which is inactive, must be converted to the active form of folate (i.e. methylfolate), but many people with thyroid disease can't do the conversion very well.

web.archive.org/web/2024022...

In the above link read the whole page but the info on conversion is where it says "Let's get technical".

drfuhrman.com/blog/16/why-y...

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greygoose in reply tohumanbean

I didn't know that low folate could make you anemic. Learnt something today! :)

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humanbean in reply togreygoose

NICE has published two Clinical Knowledge Summaries about anaemia :

Anaemia - iron deficiency

cks.nice.org.uk/topics/anae...

Anaemia - B12 and folate deficiency

cks.nice.org.uk/topics/anae...

I'm not sure whether they are made available to people outside the UK though. :(

NICE = National Institute for Health and Care Excellence

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greygoose in reply tohumanbean

No, not available for me. But thanks anyway. :)

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FT4 and Ft3 are both very low

Approximately how much do you weigh in kilo

50mcg is only standard STARTER dose levothyroxine

Request SMALL increase in Levo to 62.5mcg 4 days a week as a “trial “ increase

Retest in 2-3 months

If endocrinologist refuses…..suggest you find a new endocrinologist

Being under medicated for thyroid makes it increasingly difficult to maintain GOOD vitamin levels

Vitamin D is too low

Aim to maintain at least over 40ng/ml

Are you also taking magnesium - in afternoon or evening at least 4 hours away from Levo

Web links about taking important cofactors - magnesium and Vit K2-MK7

Magnesium best taken in the afternoon or evening, but must be four hours away from levothyroxine

betterbones.com/bone-nutrit...

medicalnewstoday.com/articl...

livescience.com/61866-magne...

sciencedaily.com/releases/2...

Recipe ideas

bbc.co.uk/food/articles/mag...

Interesting article by Dr Malcolm Kendrick on magnesium

drmalcolmkendrick.org/categ...

Vitamin K2 mk7

betterbones.com/bone-nutrit...

healthline.com/nutrition/vi...

Ferritin in Sept was 28.16 R 4.6-204

So ferritin was deficient

Very common to struggle to maintain good iron/ferritin when hypo

cks.nice.org.uk/topics/anae...

Serum ferritin level is the biochemical test, which most reliably correlates with relative total body iron stores. In all people, a serum ferritin level of less than 30 micrograms/L confirms the diagnosis of iron deficiency

Never supplement iron without doing full iron panel test for anaemia first and retest 3-4 times a year if self supplementing.

It’s possible to have low ferritin but high iron

Test early morning, only water to drink between waking and test. Avoid high iron rich dinner night before test

If taking any iron supplements stop 5-7 days before testing

Medichecks iron panel test to show you what tests to request

medichecks.com/products/iro...

Look at increasing iron rich foods in diet

Eating iron rich foods like liver or liver pate once a week plus other red meat, pumpkin seeds and dark chocolate, plus daily orange juice or other vitamin C rich drink can help improve iron absorption

List of iron rich foods

dailyiron.net

Links about iron and ferritin

irondisorders.org/too-littl...

davidg170.sg-host.com/wp-co...

Great in-depth article on low ferritin

oatext.com/iron-deficiency-...

drhedberg.com/ferritin-hypo...

This is interesting because I have noticed that many patients with Hashimoto’s disease and hypothyroidism, start to feel worse when their ferritin drops below 80 and usually there is hair loss when it drops below 50.

High B12

B12 can be falsely high if other B vitamins are low

Are you taking any supplements that contain B12?

No folate result?

Many members find it is beneficial to be supplementing a good quality daily vitamin B complex, one with folate in (not folic acid)

This can help keep all B vitamins in balance

B vitamins best taken after breakfast

Igennus B complex popular option. Nice small tablets. Most people only find they need one per day. But a few people find it’s not high enough dose and may need separate methyl folate couple times a week

Post discussing different B complex

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

IMPORTANT......If you are taking vitamin B complex, or any supplements containing biotin, remember to stop these 5-7 days before ALL BLOOD TESTS , as biotin can falsely affect test results

endo.confex.com/endo/2016en...

endocrinenews.endocrine.org...

In week before blood test, when you stop vitamin B complex, you might want to consider taking a separate folate supplement (eg Jarrow methyl folate 400mcg)

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Suzi_ in reply toSlowDragon

B12 is good.

I weigh 107 lbs 48.53 kg

Tons of information.

I posted my last iron lab results, I think done in May but can request my GP in USA to see if she will order lab work for me.

Thanks for all the information!

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toSuzi_

was test early morning, ideally just before 9am, only drink water between waking and test and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

Free T4 (fT4) 1 pmol/L (.69 - 1.48)

Ft4 only 39.2% through range

Free T3 (fT3) 2.63 pmol/L (1.71 - 3.71) 

Ft3 46.0% through range

48 kilo suggests 75mcg Levo dairy

Perhaps with your age, a bit less

Why not request SMALL increase

Eg 62.5mcg 3 days a week and 50mcg 4 days

What’s your actual B12 and folate levels

Exactly what B vitamins are you taking

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dealsgap

I agree with the above suggestions. Your "probably" not going to raise your D on just 2500 mg. I have to take 10,000 mg (daily) just to keep mine at 90. I would suggest raising it to at least 5000 daily.

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Suzi_ in reply todealsgap

My dr says my vitamin D is normal-30. R- 30-100

How do i convince her that numbers ought to be better!

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Jaydee1507Administrator in reply toSuzi_

Vitamin D3 is widely available over the counter. Most members here buy their own, and in any case, what the NHS provides is not enough to raise your level to optimal.

Suggest you take a look at the Better You range of Vit D + K2, 1,000iu per spray and try 4 sprays per day.

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dealsgap in reply toSuzi_

Doctors are not supposed to heal you, their pay checks depend on keeping people sick and that is why he tells you that 30 is normal. If you get healed they lose a patient. 30 is in 'range' but that doesn't mean anything. If it was 99 it would be 'in range'. I stopped listening to them years ago and that's when I started healing. People get frustrated when they try to convience someone of something when their pay check demands that they stay unconvienced. If you have symptoms of low vitamin D (or any other vitamin/mineral/etc.) then it doesn't matter what they say (or what the 'range' is) you need to supplement..You are your best advocate..you can do this..

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humanbean in reply toSuzi_

Optimal levels of vitamin D in the units used in the USA are 40 - 60 ng/mL.

You can calculate a suggested dose to raise your level to optimal with this link :

grassrootshealth.net/projec...

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