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Hi I have a hot and itchy rash in the groins and under the breasts with spots and lumps popping up ad hoc everywhere since July Ha Ha you think fungal rash ! been treated with about 8 different antifungal creams 2different antifungal tablets the only think that helped calm it down was baking powder carbonate soda However because this strips your skin of all bacteria good and bad its not something I could use for too long and it was only calming it down not curing. I had my ovaries out in June wondered if I had picked up an infection MRSA? or may be at 75 my ovaries were still contributing to my hormones have been referred to Dermatologist but 8 months to one year waiting list. I'm tearing my hair out and scratching myself to pieces, just wondered if anyone had any ideas please

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RedApple profile image
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eghjm100, Are you taking any medications (other than antifungals), and are you taking any thyroid medication? If so, please give details, inlcuding most recent thyroid test numbers.

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eghjm100 in reply toRedApple

Hi have been taking Itraconasole pils Daktarin Cream Blood Test below sorry aobut the quality not very techi

Blood Test

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Values and lnvestigations (Latest Value)

15-Nov-2024 ANTI- NUCLEAR ANTIBODY (ANA) PANEL - (Fhish) - 0.3 Ratio 0'00 - 0.60Ratio

Normal - no action

This NEGATIVE anti nuclear antibody result

excludes the presence of significant fevel-s of

ar--ibcdies to doubl-e stranded DNA (dsDNA) ,

ce::'u:onr.ere, ribosomal P, PCNA RNP, Sm, Ro, La,

Sci-10, Jc-l-, Pm-scI, Fibrillarin, RNA Polymerase

-II anci mi-2

15-Nov-2024 CCP ABS - (Fhish) - Normal - no action

se anti-cCP antibody level 0.5 iu/ml 0.00 - 4'90iu/ml

14-Nov-2024 TOTAL VITAMIN D - (Fhish) - Normal - no action

Serum total 25-OH vit D level 73 nmol/L 50.00 - 200.00nmo1/L

Vitamin D interpretation:

< 25 rtmol/L .........Vitamin D deficiency.

25 - 50 nmof/L MaY be inadequate

>50 nmol,/L ....Suffici-ent

> 250 nmof/L ..Possib1e vitamin D toxici-ty'

14-Nov-2024 ! Serum TSH level - (Fhish) - Abnormal - contact <0.01 miu/L 0.35 - 4.94miu/L

Patient - aPPt 20111

Previcus reccrcs::-3.-ca--e pa--ie:lt is on thvroxine

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stable on replacement, TSH results should be

detectable, not elevated, and ideally within the

the lower half of the normal reference range'

Older patients ideaily within the reference range'

14-Nov-2024 Serum free T4 level - (Fhish) - Normal - no action 7L.7 pmol/L 9.00 - 19'10pmol/L

14-Nov-2024 LIVER FUNCTION TEST - (Fhish) - Normal - no

action

Serum total bilirubin level 5 umol/L 0.00 - 20.00umol/L

Note change to total bilirubin standardisation

from 9th May 2A23. Patient results may be

significantly lower then previous.

Healthcare professionafs: Please contact the Duty

Biochemj st with anY queries '

DB email: (for healthcare professionals only)

fhf t . bspsdutybiochemi s tteamGnhs' net

Serum ALT level 27 ulL 0'00 - 55'00u/L

14-Nov-2024 ! Serum ferritin - {f hish) - Abnormal - contact 27 uC/L 30'00 - 250.00ue/L

patient - has 2 appt with ilr Nichol cory.:ing up

Serum ferritin less than L5uq/L is indicative of

absent j-ron stores, while levels of less than

3Oug/L are generally indicative of low body iron

stores.

(Ref NICE: https : / / cks. nice. org. uk/topics/anaemiairon-

def iciency/diagnosis / investigations /

# interpreting-f erritin-f evels )

14-Nov-2024 Serum C reactive protein level - (Fhish) - Normal -

no action

Serum C reactive protein level <1.0 mElL 0'00 - 5'00mg/L

14-Nov-2024 CREATININE AND ELECTROLYTES, BLOOD - (Fhish)

- Normal - no action

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Calceolaria profile image
Calceolaria

I had this two summers ago and similarly, anti fungals, Sudocrem etc didn’t help. This maddening heat-related condition used to be called dhobi itch ( Indian Army term), jock itch in USA, sporting term from wearing jockstraps. Doesn’t seem to be a nice feminine equivalent!

After some research, I started using a shower gel called Naturally Solved Tea Tree Shower Gel. It’s expensive but lasts ages and I still use it even though I’m cured. Also found Charmpoo Anti-fungal body cream, natural ingredients, highly recommended online. The other thing, which really is not good in general but made me feel more comfortable, was Cuticura talc. Bear in mind that talc is a heavy metal and even though it’s commonly found in pharmacies etc, it’s not recommended. I used it briefly and not around the groin area as it’s been implicated in ovarian cancers. Not sure how proven it is but enough for me to be cautious. Lush do body powders with no talc. One called Silky Underwear is nice. Good luck!

I should add that fragrances might exacerbate your itchiness.

Please see Helvella’s correction re talc.

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toCalceolaria

Talc is not a heavy metal. It is hydrated magnesium silicate.

The biggest issues with talc have been concerns that it can occur near and with asbestos - and that contamination with that could be carcinogenic.

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Calceolaria in reply tohelvella

Thank you. Still bad news.

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eghjm100 in reply tohelvella

Thanks everybody for all the info I don't know what we would do without this site.

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eghjm100 in reply toCalceolaria

Thanks Calceolaria Atheletes foot cream is good for Jock itch and I was using that previously I only wash in prescription emolument nothing in it but it's like candle greace no perfumed stuff use only vasseleene other than that don't even use deodorant having already got Lichen sclerosis of the vulva have learned to do without creams or lotion but use a steroid sparingly for it please can we a spell check on here I'm useless thanks for all your help

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Stills in reply toeghjm100

Fellow LS sufferer here, luckily it’s mild and the steroid cream gives relief, used very sparingly. My known condition is rheumatoid is nature and involves skin rashes during flares and strange skin growths that perplex GP. In the absence of any help from GP I use the steroid cream occasionally on these growths when they first appear as the itch is terrible and they are sore. I recently developed molluscum contagion (spelling) and get warts and fungal nail disease. I think all these are connected to my rheumatoid condition and think I have autoimmune thyroiditis hence my interest here. The skin is weird isn’t it…. I say with certainty that when my symptoms flare all the skin things do too. Hope you find an answer.

PS: crop vest/bra tops may help reduce skin friction and help.

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eghjm100 in reply toStills

Thanks for Sharing and suggestions Stills the thyroid is such a complex gland and responsible for so much it's no wonder the medics don't know it all yes my skin is also full of hanging warts flat warts and at 75 is so thin and I bruise so easily I do control the LS quite well my Vulva Dermatologist tells me, although because the it can turn to cancer on the vulva her advice to get it checked over by my GP one a year is not something I agree with "When was the last time a GP examined a patient?" I think their knowledge might just be lacking no bras these days crop tops are ok.

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Rollercoaster44

yep have got very similar rash in similar places - Have had it for 15 years or so now. Was initially diagnosed as fungal and given numerous different antifungal creams but didnt make any difference. GP finally took a swab and mine unsurprisingly came back negative. Been put on my records as inverse psoriasis…..when itching gets really bad i use Elocon cream (prescription),

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eghjm100 in reply toRollercoaster44

Hi Rollercoaster44 Thanks for the info my swab came back negative too but that was because I had been using baking powder washes and anitfungal cream I did tell her before she took it

but I don't think she realised that Carbinate soda is good for taking the heat out and drying up the spots we used to use it on the children when they had chicken pox, but it does strip the skin of all bacteria bad and good so shouldnt be used for too long or too large an area but it does help Thanks for the info much appreciated

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humanbean

The last time I had something similar I found Savlon cream helpful. I also find simple baby lotion without lanolin, or liquid paraffin, or petroleum jelly (or anything with a similar name) helpful.

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expresschemist.co.uk/johnso...

Note Johnson's Baby Lotion of the type I've linked was the only one I found that fit my requirements. There are a lot of different types available and most of them have the things I can't tolerate in them i.e. the lanolin etc.

The things I avoid are anti-fungals, anti-bacterials, steroid creams, oils or anything oily, anything in a powder form (it has to be a cream or ointment or lotion - I'm never sure of the differences between those three).

Whatever you try, buy a small quantity first, wash the affected area gently, dry thoroughly, then put on a small amount of whatever you want to try. If it obviously makes your skin more irritated, don't try the same product again.

Edit : Oh - something I forgot. I also discovered that having a properly fitted bra helped. I was wearing them too big before I got properly fitted, and they rubbed me raw. With underwear, you could try some that is shaped a bit like men's boxers so there is no elastic rubbing in your groin area - and make sure they are made of cotton.

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eghjm100 in reply tohumanbean

Thanks humanbean for the links and info btw I gave up wearing a bra at 70 it is the age of freedonm

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arTistapple in reply toeghjm100

Well that may just be adding to your problem. Any skin to skin area is vulnerable to these sort of issues. I have found that my body does not like my own sweat. Where there is skin to skin connection, it becomes a breeding ground for some types of bacteria. It creates a seal from open air. This is further irritated by many soaps. ‘Proper’ Marseille soap (olive oil soap) you can buy cheap in TKMax, even the Marseille liquid soap is effective and keeps it at bay. Your boobs are not as ‘free’ as you think without a bra, or some kind of separation from the skin on the abdomen. It’s not as if they are moving in fresh air, even if they may still be sitting proud, you lucky girl.

A bra is a normal barrier to this, most especially a wired bra but any form of barrier is useful. In the 1800s women just used bands of cloth to soak up sweat, as long as it covered the area of skin to skin contact. This needs changing regularly until the rash clears. The application of tea tree cream can help avoid it taking hold, once you have it under control, and ‘recognise’ the signs of it returning but don’t be tempted to use it all the time. Even using that causes the area to be sealed from the open air.

Same with groin. Many hypos carry water weight which also gives skin to skin contact there too.

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eghjm100 in reply toarTistapple

Thanks Tistapple very good advice your are right of course and as we get older the skin becomes more sensitive and thin hence the no bra I've tried even the boneless sports bras but even if it's just elastic it can chafe my skin so I've just converted 7 vest tops soft stretchy and no elastic one for each day of the week. Losing weight is not all it's cracked up to be Thanks again

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arTistapple in reply toeghjm100

Sounds like a good effort. I am the same with the ‘commercial’ soft bras as they do contain elastic. I have also found anything ‘dyed’ is no use/irritating. Old white Tshirts adapted are the best, whether as bras or strips.

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Jingley

Have you tried an OTC hydrocortisone cream/ointment. My Mum has terrible flare ups of psoriasis at times under her breasts and it always helped.

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eghjm100 in reply toJingley

thanks Thanks Juingley I use Hydromol on prescription it is good and can be use as a wash or cream and it is good.

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Jingley in reply toeghjm100

Hydromol is more of a moisturiser whereas hydrocortisone helps reduce inflammation and helps the skin to repair itself.It's worth a try as 12 months is a long time to wait for a dermatology appointment when you're sore and itching.

EDITED TO ADD

Just read you have LS and use a steroid. How about trying a tiny bit of that on the rash?

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eghjm100 in reply toJingley

Thanks Jingley for the information I might just try that

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eghjm100 in reply toJingley

Hi Jingley isnt hydrocortisone the same as a steroid

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Jingley in reply toeghjm100

It is. This is from the NHS websiteHydrocortisone is a steroid (corticosteroid) medicine. It works by calming down your body's immune response to reduce pain, itching and swelling (inflammation)

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eghjm100 in reply toJingley

of the creams that my gp gave me several were steroids the Canasten in particular made it worse it is true he said to ignore the instruction use sparingly he said I will give you 2 tubes and slap it on within 4 days I was in A &E they said he was wrong so now I'm not sure about steroids now

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Jingley in reply toeghjm100

The pics don't look like a fungal infection, more like psoriasis. That's the only reason I suggested hydrocortisone.I'm not sure what else to suggest 😕

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eghjm100 in reply toJingley

all suggestions welcome thank you

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eghjm100, I don't see any mention of thyroid medications. Are you taking any at all?

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eghjm100 in reply toRedApple

Hi Red Apple yes 200grms Levo and 60grms T3

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I suggest you consider Lanacane Anti-Chafing Gel (or similar). It does help when skin rubs against skin. There are many suppliers and I've just grabbed a link almost at random:

lloydspharmacy.com/products...

It doesn't kill anything (bacteria, fungi) but it can help in preventing anything taking hold.

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eghjm100 in reply tohelvella

Thank you Helvella I shall look into it thanks for the link

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FallingInReverse

One more opinion.

Rashes that appear in mirror-image shapes in skin folds, where the rash seems to reflect across the fold, is an important clue about the underlying cause - and therefore treatment.

Specifically , it does point to things like topical irritants, fungus, or bacteria.

Therefore, treatment would point to anti-fungals and antibiotic creams. As well as managing the surface of your skin to use those skin “barrier “ creams to protect from friction or irritants, to avoid sweat/moisture where fungus and bacteria thrives, and other topical things that would spread the fungus or bacteria.

Also avoid steroid creams - as they suppress the immune system, although might initially look like they are working since they reduce inflammation. But they won’t address the root cause and so it will flare back up.

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eghjm100 in reply toFallingInReverse

Thanks you interesting snout the steroids think that may have been happening with me

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Stills in reply toFallingInReverse

Good point about steroid creams

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joiaz

I’d try Hibiscrub. Small bottle about £6.00 from Boots etc.

I had a really painfully sore belly button, swollen and red. It was also wet and smelly! I eventually realised it was a fungal infection caused by wearing one of those wide neoprene (non- breathable fabric) back support band things I’d been wearing for a few days as I’d done my back in.

I already had some Hibiscrub and swabbed it with that and it pretty well immediately relieved the soreness and then the rash etc.

…………………………

“Hibiscrub is a strong antiseptic [active ingredient chlorhexidine gluconate 4%] widely used for pre- and post-operative skin cleansing and hand-washing in hospitals to reduce the risk of infections. It is gentle on the skin. It works quickly, killing bacteria including MRSA, yeasts, fungi and viruses within 1 minute, and is effective for up to 6 hours.”

1. EXTERNAL USE ONLY. NEVER use on broken skin / open wounds as this can delay healing and aggravate wounds further.

2. Avoid contact with eyes, mouth, brain, meninges and middle ear. i.e. membranes (including anus or genital area).

3. I dilute it about 1 part Hibiscrub to 10 parts water. The water will be a very light, transluscent pink.

4. After swabbing the area then rinse off with water.

Please read up on it yourself before you using it!

e.g. theindependentpharmacy.co.u...

You can also use it neat for a full body wash in the shower – then wash it off under the shower – see: molnlycke.co.uk/products-so...

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eghjm100 in reply tojoiaz

Thanks joiaz not sure my skin would stand it at the moment I think it's so thin like I'm 100 but all suggestions welcome

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joiaz in reply toeghjm100

I’d give it a go – as long as the skin is not broken.

It is gentle on the skin – it’s basically just like swabbing it with water. You could try an area, say under the breast , diluted 1:10 – dabbed on with cotton wool - can you then go without wearing a bra for a few days?

……………..

"Hibiscrub® antimicrobial skin cleanser has been used for more than 45 years in hospitals around the world to help manage infection. It is used for pre-operative surgical hand disinfection, antiseptic hand washing on the ward, and pre- and post-operative skin antisepsis for patients undergoing elective surgery.

“Hibiscrub is not absorbed into the skin, but binds to it to form a protective layer that kills bacteria within one minute, and continues to do so for up to six hours after application 4 5 6. Unlike povidone iodine, Hibiscrub is not inactivated by bodily fluids 7.

Hibiscrub has been dermatologically tested, and is proven to be gentle on the skin, even with frequent use 8. This is significant because repeated application of Hibiscrub has been shown to increase its antimicrobial efficacy 9.

Tough against microbes - gentle to the skin 4 8" molnlycke.co.uk/products-so...

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nightingale-56 in reply tojoiaz

A friend and I, while in hospital after having babies (2nd ones for both of us) used to use it to wash the bath out before we had a bath as the baths did not look too clean before we used them. It did not seem to harm us and we did not end up with any infections after having open wounds. This was in 1976. I would have no hesitation in using it again. Good to know it is still around. Thanks for this information.

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eghjm100 in reply tonightingale-56

Thanks Nightingale-56 It is good but the advice is not to strong solution not to cover too much area at once and not for too long at most we used it on the children for a couple of weeks I also put some in with the towels and other laundry kills all gems

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hiya, I think I picked this up at a boxing gym years ago, had it on lower back and armpits and manage to spread it myself itching like crazy. It has thankfully cleared up.

Finally solved with a mixture of athletes foot cream mixed into savlon and lots of emulsifying ointment slathered on top.

I still get a very itchy under boob if hot and sweaty, but no rash, I will go wash and dry if I feel that coming on. Also changed all my sports bras recently as I’m sure it lingers beyond the 40 degree wash.

I read in Supergut it can be a skin manifestation of SIFO - any gastro symptoms? Post nasal drip?

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eghjm100 in reply toRegenallotment

Hi Rengenallotment Thanks for the info given up on wearing bras at any time freedom at aged 70! not SIFO but have been prescribed oral antifungal Itraconazole

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SlowDragonAdministrator

Looking at your profile

You take Levo plus T3

How much levothyroxine and which brand

How much T3 and which brand

14-Nov-2024

Serum free T4 level - 7L.7 pmol/L 9.00 - 19'10pmol/L

Ft4 appears to be BELOW range at 7

No Ft3 in result

Obviously absolutely ESSENTIAL to test TSH, Ft4 and Ft3 together

Recommended that all thyroid blood tests early morning, ideally just before 9am, only drink water between waking and test and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

T3 ….day before test split T3 as 2 or 3 smaller doses spread through the day, with last dose approximately 8-12 hours before test

vitamin levels

vit D level 73 nmol/L 50.00 - 200.00nmo1/L

Vitamin D better nearer 100nmol

How much vitamin D are you taking

14-Nov-2024 !

Serum ferritin - Abnormal - contact

27 uC/L 30'00 - 250.00ue/L

Ferritin is deficient at under 30

B12 good

Folate too low at 6.6 (3-20)

What B vitamins are you taking

supplementing a good quality daily vitamin B complex, one with folate in (not folic acid)

This can help keep all B vitamins in balance and will help improve B12 levels too

Difference between folate and folic acid

healthline.com/nutrition/fo...

Many Hashimoto’s patients have MTHFR gene variation and can have trouble processing folic acid supplements

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

B vitamins best taken after breakfast

Igennus B complex popular option. Nice small tablets. Most people only find they need one per day. But a few people find it’s not high enough dose and may need separate methyl folate couple times a week

Post discussing different B complex

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Thorne Basic B recommended vitamin B complex that contains folate, but they are large capsules. (You can tip powder out if can’t swallow capsule) Thorne can be difficult to find at reasonable price, should be around £20-£25. iherb.com often have in stock. Or try ebay

IMPORTANT......If you are taking vitamin B complex, or any supplements containing biotin, remember to stop these 5-7 days before ALL BLOOD TESTS , as biotin can falsely affect test results

endo.confex.com/endo/2016en...

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In week before blood test, when you stop vitamin B complex, you might want to consider taking a separate folate supplement (eg Jarrow methyl folate 400mcg)

Post discussing how biotin can affect test results

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

helvella.blogspot.com/p/hel...

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eghjm100 in reply toSlowDragon

Thanks Slow Dragon amazing amount of info thank you links as well my T3 is always suppressed at 01 as I take T3 I take 60mg 20 at bedtime 40 6am also Levo 200mg one 100 bed time and 100 6 am I also Take selinium 100ug with zinc 15 mg, A750, C90mg .E 10.01mg B 6 1.6mg H&Barret B Complex slow release also from H&B vitamin D 10000iu from solgar

I take simverstatin Sertraline and painkillers Codine/Paracetamol Flaring (waiting for knee replacement and back surgery the latter being cancelled due to the rash hoping it wont stop me getting the new knee

my Endoarround begrudgingly supplying T3 but naggs me every time to reduce it which I did around the time the rash started so went back to previouse dose at the same time in June I also had a lump under my arm and was checked out for cancer it was lymph node but all clear however the last time I had cycsts in my breasts was when I was going through the menopause so am going to ask the surgeon who took my ovaries out in June if it could all the problems could be hormonal. and to top it all after the removal of the ovaries whilst in the recovery ward I had an episode which he tells me was Hypothermia shivering uncontrollable they had to give me more pain meds and warm me up. Looking forward to next year this years been rubbish.

Thanks to you and all the others on this site for the support and information you share.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toeghjm100

I take 60mg 20 at bedtime 40 6am

also Levo 200mg one 100 bed time and 100 6 am

How long before test was last dose Levo ?

To have below range Ft4 on 200mcg Levo suggests malabsorption

Are you taking Levo on its own on empty stomach and no other medications or supplements within 2 hours

Obviously absolutely essential to test TSH, Ft4 and Ft3 together

Test early morning, last dose Levo 24 hours before test, last dose T3 at 8-12 hours before test…..

Just TSH, Ft4 and Ft3 test - £32

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10% off code here

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Randox FULL thyroid test including both thyroid antibodies just £29

Test at home or in clinic

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Suggest you ditch the H&B vitamin B complex for a better quality one

You need FULL iron panel for anaemia

On Levo or T3 we need GOOD iron and ferritin levels

Test early morning, only water to drink between waking and test. Avoid high iron rich dinner night before test

If taking any iron supplements stop 5-7 days before testing

Medichecks iron panel test

medichecks.com/products/iro...

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eghjm100 in reply toSlowDragon

Hi Slow Dragon thyroid meds always taken on empty stomach and no other meds but do take Levo and T3 together Can you suggest better quality vitamins I thought Solgar was a good make I have been given Ferrous Fumarate 210 mg Tablets for iron my brand of T3 is Morningside I don't get on with Teva Levo brands is Almus will in future make sure last T3 Levo at least 24 hours before tests thanks again

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toeghjm100

I have been given Ferrous Fumarate 210 mg Tablets for iron

How many per day …

Are you Vegetarian or vegan

Look at increasing iron rich foods in diet

Eating iron rich foods like liver or liver pate once a week

Ideally red meat daily, pumpkin seeds and dark chocolate, plus daily orange juice or other vitamin C rich drink can help improve iron absorption

List of iron rich foods

dailyiron.net

Links about iron and ferritin

irondisorders.org/too-littl...

davidg170.sg-host.com/wp-co...

Great in-depth article on low ferritin

oatext.com/iron-deficiency-...

drhedberg.com/ferritin-hypo...

This is interesting because I have noticed that many patients with Hashimoto’s disease and hypothyroidism, start to feel worse when their ferritin drops below 80 and usually there is hair loss when it drops below 50.

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Posts discussing Three Arrows as very effective supplement

Great replies from @FallingInReverse

re ferritin and Three arrows

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Great reply by @fallinginreverse

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Ferrodyn supplement

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Thyroid disease is as much about optimising vitamins as thyroid hormones

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Post discussing just how long it can take to raise low ferritin

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Iron and thyroid link

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Posts discussing why important to do full iron panel test

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Good iron but low ferritin

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Chicken livers if iron is good, but ferritin low

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Shellfish and Mussels are excellent source of iron

healthline.com/nutrition/he...

Iron deficiency without anaemia

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Ferritin over 100 to alleviate symptoms

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Great research article discussing similar…..ferritin over 100 often necessary

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

Low Iron implicated in hypothyroidism

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Really interesting talk on YouTube, link in reply by Humanbean discussing both iron deficiency and towards end how inflammation can also be an issue

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Inflammation affecting ferritin

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Updated reference ranges for top of ferritin range depending upon age

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Thank you for your incredible patience while you have been awaiting the outcome of our ferritin reference range review. We conducted this with Inuvi lab, which has now changed the reference ranges to the following:

Females 18 ≤ age < 40. 30 to 180

Females 40 ≤ age < 50. 30 to 207

Females 50 ≤ age < 60. 30 to 264l

Females Age ≥ 60. 30 to 332

Males 18 ≤ age < 40 30 to 442

Males Age ≥ 40 30 to 518

The lower limits of 30 are by the NICE threshold of <30 for iron deficiency. Our review of Medichecks data has determined the upper limits. This retrospective study used a large dataset of blood test results from 25,425 healthy participants aged 18 to 97 over seven years. This is the most extensive study on ferritin reference ranges, and we hope to achieve journal publication so that these ranges can be applied more widely.

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my brand of T3 is Morningside I don't get on with Teva Levo brands is Almus will in future make sure

T3 - Teva T3 is fine …..and lactose free. Doesn’t contain mannitol, unlike Teva Levo

Levo ….might be worth trying Vencamil…..lactose and mannitol free

originally only available as 100mcg only, but 25mcg, 50mcg and 75mcg tablets became available Sept 2024

Prior to March 2023 Vencamil was called Aristo

Vencamil often very well tolerated/best option for many people

How to get Vencamil stocked at your local pharmacy

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last T3 Levo at least 24 hours before tests thanks again

Last dose Levo 24 hours before

Last dose T3 - approx 8-12 hours before test

Can you suggest better quality vitamins I thought Solgar was a good

As listed in my reply earlier above

Igennus vitamin B complex or Thorne

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eghjm100 in reply toSlowDragon

Thanks again for so much information interesting some of the some of the research don't include people over 60 I'm 75 had hyperthyroid at 19 flipped at age of 45 to hypo/ diet healthy eating loosley Slimming world but needs more red meat i guess iron tablets 1 per day lots of reading for me, I think it will take me a week thank you so much I would never have found this info on my own

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Jazzw

I had a lot of issues with something similar a couple of summers ago. Not promising this will work for you too but you’ll probably consider anything right now? For me, I think it was yet another menopause gift—it really does keep on giving…

I find that antifungals do work—but only if the area stays dry-ish. So I tuck so-called reusable baby wipes—they’re like mini cotton flannels—into the fold under each bap to mop up any moisture (I do wear a bra though—it helps the wipes stay in place). If the rash flares, it’s only a tiny bit and the Canesten works within a day or two. A one off purchase from Amazon has made my life so much easier (other retailers are available!).

LOL, the things we share here. :D

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radd in reply toJazzw

Great image Jazzw 😄

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Jazzw in reply toradd

I do my best. 😂

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nightingale-56 in reply toJazzw

Disposable gauze swabs work well for putting in bras Jazzw . Also from Amazon.

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eghjm100 in reply tonightingale-56

Thanks Jazzwb gave up wearing bras at aged 70 I feel Ive earned the freedom !

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Jazzw in reply toeghjm100

You have—but the friction is causing some of the problem, I think.

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Jazzw in reply tonightingale-56

I’m sure they do. Though washing the baby wipes seems to be working out just fine. 🙂

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Aurealis

sorry but you won’t like this suggestion- a mammogram and breast exam, just in case

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eghjm100 in reply toAurealis

Hi Aurealis Strangely enough at the same time I found a lump under my arm I had my ovaries removed in June by July I had the rash and the lump. During the menopause I use to have lots of cysts had them aspirated also had cysts on the ovaries for years hence the removal when I got stomach pains luckily they checked no cancer visible. I did think it might all be connected rash lumps cysts Its not been my year as when I had the ovaries removed I had an episode in the recovery room turned out it was hypothermia shivering cold lots of pain roll one next year it's got to be better than this, thanks for the suggestion

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radd

eghjm100

If creams aren’t working effectively, I’d suggest you treat internally for systemic fungal infection.

Some fungal infections are caused by mould spores we inhale and morph to become more yeast-like. Symptoms can present from fungal toe nails (dermatophytes) and itchy rashes even though the area is being kept clean and free of sweat, etc, to gut problems, headaches, etc.

I had to take several rounds of prescribed Amphotericin B Nasal Spray for ongoing sinusitis that refused to clear. To ensure it doesn’t return I’m still using natural antifungals such as essential oils (oregano, clove, tea tree, etc) and herbs like wormwood and mugwort in a tincture.

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eghjm100 in reply toradd

Thanks Rad I have been taking an oral they gave me Terbinafine which made my vision go funny soo now am taking #itraconazole which has no side effects so far good idea about essential oils if I ever get to that stage thanks for the info

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soppysokes

looks very much like what used to be called sweat rash due to perspiring.

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tattybogle

i've used both these with very good effect and no problems :

1. Fullers Earth (it's basically a sort of very fine powdered clay). it was recommended to me by an artist friend and it was very effective for clearing up/ drying out/ managing a persistent rash in the neck folds of one of my babies when absolutely nothing else we tried had worked ..... i think i bought it from a chemist but can't remember. it is available on line now.

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This one works for me to stop the dreadful itchyness of Pompholyx , (a blistering form of eczema) i find it extremely good at stopping the itch , and it also helps to clear it up and heal the skin quickly.

2. Dermol500 lotion " Dermol 500 Antimicrobial Emollient Lotion

Dermol 500 Lotion helps to prevent and treat conditions such as eczema and dermatitis. With each application, it softens, moisturises and protects even the most sensitive skin against infections.Suitable for children and adults from birth, "

can be bought over the counter from most chemists for about £10 ish

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eghjm100 in reply totattybogle

Thanks for the suggestions it's so hard to know what to use at the moment I am using a derma wash nothing in it but it's like candle greece

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jillyana

Daktacort hydrocortisone cream is good for this complaint

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