i have been raking Armour for almost 6 months now and despite the initial feelings of depression, the increased dose has left me feeling much better. My thyroid blood tests have just been returned and are described as abnormal. I am curious to know if anyone with more experience than me thinks they are overly concerning.
TSH. 0.06 Range 0.3- 4.2
FT4 13.7. Range 10-22
FT3 8.2. Range 3.1-6.8
TPO antibodies 181 Range 30 or under
Thanks
Can you tell us when you last took your armour prior to this test and what dose? How many hours.
Recommended timing is 8-12hours to show stable blood levels of T3.
What vitamins do you take?
What are yorur most recent results for ferritin, folate, B12 & D3?
thanks for responding. I took Armour 4 hours before as I wasn’t expecting to be given the blood test at an appointment for a chest infection. I haven’t been offered tests for vitamins and B12 but do take a daily B12 tablet as had to have injections historically. I am taking folate tabs but no vit D as it was high last time. Sorry I don’t have more info.
The T3 content of Armour is immediate acting and there will be a large variation on your level depending on when you last took your dose and how much of the dose you took at that time.
With almost any medical appointment I now pre prepare for a thyroid blood test, because as soon as they know you have a thyroid condition they are highly likely to check your blood levels, so bare that in mind for future medical appointments and adjust taking Armour as appropriate.
As you took your dose (you havent said how much) only 4 hours before this test I would ignore the result and book your own private test and for that be sure to allow correct timings to show stable blood levels of T3.
Day before test, split dose into 3 and take last portion 8-12hrs before test is due.
How much B12 do you take and which form of B12?
Especially as you have historically had issues with B12 absorption then its essentail to test your level. I have given you details for private tests.
Rather than taking folate you are betetr off taking a B complex which includes folate and all the other B vitamins as they all work together and need to be kept in balance.
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As soon as you stop taking a itamin your levels will begin to fall back to where they were originally. If you've had a wash out period due to vit D being high then likely its time to recommence a supplement.
Buy one that includes vit K2 to help it go to your bones. Some are available in oil or you can take it with an oily meal for better absorption. Many members like the ‘Better You’ range of mouth sprays that contain both bit D & K2. Most people need a minimum of 3,000iu per day.
Its rare to be offered vitamin testing. Either you need to ask yourself or take responsibility for your healthy and buy a private test.
Thanks for all this excellent advice 👏
I would want to investigate further!
How long before the test did you take the dose?
How much are you taking?
FT3 too high for people without a form of thyroid hormone resistance
TPO antibodies are high indicating Hashi's
Sorry....more info required
Sorry, i don’t have more info. I was surprised how high T3 had gone. It was 2.7 last November, 3.7 in Feb as I started NDT and is now zooming off at 8.2
Sorry, not used to this forum and may have posted answer to someone else. I take 1.5 grains and left 5 hours between blood test and taking the meds. I am not sure that I have ever been tested fir TG antibodies and was told the high TPO suggested an autoimmune hypothyroidism.
TPO antibodies are high but we need to test Tg antibodies as well as TPO to confirm Hashi's
First time I've heard that!
Corrected!!
What did you correct? You're still saying that TgAB need to be tested to confirm Hashi's, and I'm pretty sure that's not the case, because it's far less frequent to have high TgAB than high TPOab. So, testing then doesn't confirm anything.
Sorry gg....I started to correct but must have omitted to hit reply. Now done.
I shouldn't have replied at all, on a strong, acute dose of antibiotics....feeling really fatigued and not thinking straight.
Of course you are correct!
Think I'll hibernate for a few days...
Know how you feel. I'm still struggling to get over the latest bout of covid, and it makes me very irritiable! lol I'd love to hibernate but it's too hot and I get bored. 
Hey there again :
Glad to read your depression has lifted with the increased dose :
Your results look a lot like mine -
my T3 can be around mid 7's with a T4 at around 14 after 10 /12 hours from a fasting blood test.
The guidelines and ranges are for synthetic T3 and T4 hormone replacement and with NDT you dose to the relief of symptoms.
Do you split your dose - how much Armour are you taking and overall how do you feel now ?
Also very important to maintain ferritin, folate, B12 and vitamin D at optimal levels -
have you had these core strength vitamins and minerals run at all ?
Hi again and thanks for responding. It is reassuring to hear my findings are similar to yours. I just take the one tablet at 6 am and don’t eat or drink for a couple of hours after. I hope I don’t have to change again as I am scared of feeling depressed again! X
So are you still taking 1 grain Armour - I thought I read your dose was increased ?
How long after taking the Armour at 6 am did you have the blood test ?
Don't be scared - this doctor has found a solution for you :
Dose was increased from 1 to 1.5 grains. I started to feel better after that. Appointment was at 11 so 5 hours later, so possibly influenced results.
Yes - probably a timing issue there - I shouldn't be too concerned - if you feel ok :
Did the doctor suggest a suitable timing for the blood test after taking the Armour ?
Eating breakfast before the blood test would have lowered your T3 -
just a tip for next time maybe as I've been doing this now for 6 years but self medicating so I'm not answerable to anybody but myself.
Thanks for the tip and well done managing your condition. Your profile suggests it has been quite a journey!
Just another thought - some people on NDT especially those taking 1 dose a day arrange a blood test just as they would T4 Levothyroxine - leaving around a 24 hour window from their last dose - which would obviously show a much lower T3 reading.
But as already mentioned with NDT is more about relief of symptoms and hopefully your specialist will be more pleased that he has solved your depression than your score on the blood test taken too soon after taking the Armour.
Maybe check with your specialist as to the blood test ' timing ' arrangements he likes to work to - if he is concerned about this last blood test result :
How much Armour are you taking?
Could be your FT3 is so high because you took it too close to the blood draw. So, this test doesn't give you much useful information about anything.
day before test
Split the dose
1 grain in morning and half grain late afternoon
Test 8am next morning
Test vitamin D, folate, B12 and ferritin too
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