Switching to Metavive -latest results

[Mireiame]

I commented on my situation in another post and I have undergone some blood test, following the protocol described here. My latest tsh, ft4, ft3 results have definitely come out.

TSH. 0,205* (0,38- 5,3)

FT4 1,16ng/dl. 50% of the range

FT3. 3,21pg/ml. 50 % of the range

Magnesio 2 mg/dl

Vitamin D 50 ng/ml

B12 490 pg/ml

Hemoglobin 12,2 g/dl

Ferritina. 42 ng/ ml

I feel pretty good, full of energy. My endocrinologist wants to reduce my dose, She thinks I'm taking 75 mcg/day of levothyroxine.

But I am on 2 x metavive II a day.

What should I do? Should I stay on this dose?

I'm also worried about ferritin and hemoglobin.Any advice?

Thank you so much.

[Bertwills]

The T3 in the Metavive will bring your TSH reading down even though it’s only 50% through the range. You need all the Metavive you’re taking so I’m not sure what you should tell your doctor who is thinking that your TSH is too low. Can you tell the doctor? Or test privately so they don’t see the results? I have my hormones prescribed privately & don’t show my doctors the results of my blood tests. They just note that i have a private prescription.

Your Vitamin D is low. You could take a supplement for that alongside magnesium & K2. 4 hours away from the Metavive though.

[Mireiame in reply to Bertwills]

I tested privately, I can' t tell her about metavive because in Spain is not prescribed for any doctor. I am trying by myself because I heard it from other integrative meds from Germany and Netherlands.

I am trying to follow DrMyhill protocol to know if the amount I am taking is adequate by checking my temperature, blood pressure, and heart rate at rest and during exercise.

I don't want to take unnecessary risks with change, and that is why I am also in this group to continue learning and let myself be advised by you.

I am supplementing with vitamin D+K2, magnesium and methylated B complex. Compared to previous tests these were increasing.

But I think my ferritin and hemoglobin should be higher.

What do you think about this? Should I supplement with iron?(Hierro= Iron in Spanish)

Thank you so much for answering

Ferritin, iron, Mg, VitD, B12 Test

[Noelnoel in reply to Mireiame]

In the UK Metavive isn’t prescribed by General Practitioners - referred to as GPs. Certainly not NHS GPs and as far as I’m aware, not private GPs either. People like Dr Myhill and Dr Peatfield (since deceased) are/were no longer GPs. Dr Myhill is now a naturopath

Anyway, my point is. my GP knows I take Metavive and monitors me by annual TFTs. She’s aware of my extremely low TSH and accepts that I have claimed responsibitly for it. In Spain, how is NDT viewed? Metavive isn’t NDT but it’s the same principal

At some point you’re going to have to mention it because should you need emergency hospitalisation … and(!) there may come a point when she refuses to prescribe 75

Your point about how much Metavive; 50% through the range wouldn’t suit me, I need both quite a bit higher but if you’re feeling good on that dose then it obviously suits you so why would you lower it

[Bertwills]

I have been personally treated by Dr Myhill & it was unsuccessful for me. I would be wary of following her advice too closely. For example, she insists on using iodine which is generally considered inadvisable for hypothyroid people.

You don’t have to specify to your doctor what your taking, if you’re willing to take responsibility , but you’ll have a problem if you decide to abandon Metavive. It might not help you long term.

I don’t know enough about iron to help you. I have an excess of iron! Post again asking for help with iron supplementation

[Noelnoel in reply to Bertwills]

You’re right, she doesn’t have to divulge to her doctor she’s taking Metavive but it’d be wise

You’re also right to warn her about Dr Myhill advocating iodine. I’m not sure it should be avoided with simple hypothyroidism but people with Hashi should definitely be cautious

[Mireiame in reply to Noelnoel]

Yes, I agree with you, In Hashimoto's thyroiditis we must be careful, we must take the necessary amount of iodine, neither too much nor too little.

I would like to know if it would be necessary to warn about taking metavive in case anesthesia or surgery is needed.

Are there any contraindications that should be taken into account in addition to those of levothyroxine?

Thanks a lot

[Bertwills in reply to Mireiame]

Yes, I’d be completely honest about anything you’re taking before surgery. You may need to move to taking levothyroxine for a time before a planned surgery then go back to Metavive when fully recovered.

[Noelnoel in reply to Mireiame]

A diverse and varied diet provides enough iodine and there may also be a quantity in glandulars such as Metavive. It’s a freeze-dried gland after all

You would need to inform an anaesthetist of Metavive in the same way you would if you were taking levo or lio or NDT