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Hi, Following my last post, I have visited my GP due to ongoing palpitations. She was very sympathetic and did me a full run of blood tests. All came back ‘normal’ my TSH even slightly down to my last test. Bloods were taken at 9.15am as advised. I am not prescribed any thyroid medication and take 3000 vitamin D. What does everyone else think? Still experiencing other symptoms- tiredness, hair loss, dry skin, inner tremble, cold hands and feet etc.

Serum Folate 6.2 (3.8-26.8)

TSH 5.10 (0.3-5.5)

B12 673 (197-771)

Total vit D 83 (197-771)

Magnesium .85 (0.7-1.0)

Serum Ferritin 28 (15-150)

Thanks for your time.

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greygoose

Your TSH may be down 'a bit' - it is subject to fluctuations - but it's still much too high: you are hypo.

B12 is good.

Folate is too low, it should be at least over mid-range.

Wrong vit D test, should be D3.

No point in testing magnesium because results are unreliable.

Ferritin is dire. That result should have triggered a full iron panel to see what's going on.

So, no. Your results may be within the stupid ranges - just - but they are far from 'normal'. Not surprising you have a heap of symptoms. And your doctor's sympathy is all very well, but what you need is action!

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We know that you're hypo from your previous tests that you've posted, its really just a matter of convincing your GP that.

Didn't they do FT4 this time? I see yours has been below range before.

The NICE guidelines state that you need 2 TSH results 3 months apart on the NHS to get a diagnosis and begin treatment.

In the early stges of hypo numbers can bounce between in and out of range so it can be a matter of waiting it out.

As thyroid patients we do need to learn how best to advocate for ourselves and lead our own treatment. GPs can be ultra conservative at times.

Do some reading in this group and you will find you aren't alone in waiting for a diagnosis. See what has helped others.

What vitamins are you taking now?

Your folate looks low and a B complex would help.

Slightly cheaper options with inactive B6:

amazon.co.uk/Liposomal-Soft...

Contains B6 as P5P an active form:

bigvits.co.uk/thorne-resear...

healf.com/products/basic-b-...

Explanation about the different forms of B6:

helvella.blogspot.com/p/hel...

B complex comparison spreadsheet:

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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SlowDragonAdministrator

you’re TSH is far too high

Ferritin dire

You need FULL iron panel test for anaemia

Being anaemic can also cause palpitations and breathlessness

Low vitamin levels extremely common when hypothyroid

any obvious reason for low iron

are you vegetarian or vegan

Heavy periods

cks.nice.org.uk/topics/anae...

Serum ferritin level is the biochemical test, which most reliably correlates with relative total body iron stores. In all people, a serum ferritin level of less than 30 micrograms/L confirms the diagnosis of iron deficiency.

Never supplement iron without doing full iron panel test for anaemia first and retest 3-4 times a year if self supplementing.

It’s possible to have low ferritin but high iron

Test early morning, only water to drink between waking and test. Avoid high iron rich dinner night before test

Stop iron supplements 5-7 days before testing

Medichecks iron panel test

medichecks.com/products/iro...

Look at increasing iron rich foods in diet

Eating iron rich foods like liver or liver pate once a week plus other red meat, pumpkin seeds and dark chocolate, plus daily orange juice or other vitamin C rich drink can help improve iron absorption

List of iron rich foods

dailyiron.net

Links about iron and ferritin

irondisorders.org/too-littl...

davidg170.sg-host.com/wp-co...

Great in-depth article on low ferritin

oatext.com/iron-deficiency-...

drhedberg.com/ferritin-hypo...

This is interesting because I have noticed that many patients with Hashimoto’s disease and hypothyroidism, start to feel worse when their ferritin drops below 80 and usually there is hair loss when it drops below 50.

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Posts discussing Three Arrows as very effective supplement

Great replies from @FallingInReverse

re ferritin and Three arrows

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu......

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Iron patches

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Thyroid disease is as much about optimising vitamins as thyroid hormones

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

restartmed.com/hypothyroidi...

Post discussing just how long it can take to raise low ferritin

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Iron and thyroid link

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Posts discussing why important to do full iron panel test

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Good iron but low ferritin

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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Chicken livers if iron is good, but ferritin low

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Shellfish and Mussels are excellent source of iron

healthline.com/nutrition/he...

Iron deficiency without anaemia

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Ferritin over 100 to alleviate symptoms

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Great research article discussing similar…..ferritin over 100 often necessary

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

Low Iron implicated in hypothyroidism

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Really interesting talk on YouTube, link in reply by Humanbean discussing both iron deficiency and towards end how inflammation can also be an issue

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Inflammation affecting ferritin

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Updated reference ranges for top of ferritin range depending upon age

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Thank you for your incredible patience while you have been awaiting the outcome of our ferritin reference range review. We conducted this with Inuvi lab, which has now changed the reference ranges to the following:

Females 18 ≤ age < 40. 30 to 180

Females 40 ≤ age < 50. 30 to 207

Females 50 ≤ age < 60. 30 to 264l

Females Age ≥ 60. 30 to 332

Males 18 ≤ age < 40 30 to 442

Males Age ≥ 40 30 to 518

The lower limits of 30 are by the NICE threshold of <30 for iron deficiency. Our review of Medichecks data has determined the upper limits. This retrospective study used a large dataset of blood test results from 25,425 healthy participants aged 18 to 97 over seven years. This is the most extensive study on ferritin reference ranges, and we hope to achieve journal publication so that these ranges can be applied more widely.

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SlowDragonAdministrator

Graph showing median TSH in healthy population is 1-1.5

web.archive.org/web/2004060...

Starting levothyroxine - flow chart

2 tests with TSH over 5 and symptoms you should be starting on Levothyroxine

gps.northcentrallondonccg.n...

Plus your previous post here

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

shows you have high thyroid antibodies - ie autoimmune thyroid disease

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Johannab89

This is all great reading, I’ll take some time later to read through it all and put a plan together with diet and supplements. Hopefully the palpitations will reduce then. I feel like there’s no constructive help from GPs so I’m going to have to help myself as much as I can. I’m hoping once the symptoms lessen the anxiety feelings will too as I’m sure that the anxiety is just a by product of the symptoms? I only take Vitamin D 3000 at the moment, no other medication at all. I have always experienced heavy long (7days) periods but they are a bit scatty now (I’m 52) so unsure whether this is due to thyroid or perimenopause?

Thanks to all

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Johannab89

Starting on levothyroxine…..good explanations

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Here’s link for how to request Thyroid U.K.list of private Doctors emailed to you, but within the email a link to download list of recommended thyroid specialist endocrinologists

Ideally choose an endocrinologist to see privately initially and who also does NHS consultations

thyroiduk.org/contact-us/ge...

Have you had coeliac blood test done yet

Or are you already on Gluten Free diet

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Anthea55

As already mentioned, it's important to take blood tests in the morning, preferably by 9am. Only water before the test. No food or meds.

You can't compare tests taken at different times of day as TSH varies during the day. Most doctors and nurses don't know this so you have to be insistent.

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Johannab89

I haven’t had a coeliac blood test and am not on gluten free diet.

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