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Help on latest blood results please.

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TSH 1.84 mIU/L (0.27 - 4.2) 39.9%

Free T4 (fT4) 16.4 pmol/L (12 - 22) 44.0%

Free T3 (fT3) 4.4 pmol/L (3.1 - 6.8) 35.1%

T4:T3 Ratio 3.727 

Thyroglobulin Antbodies (TgAb) 4000 IU/mL (0 - 115) 3478.3%

Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies (TPO) 79.6 IU/mL (0 - 34) 234.1%

C-Reactive Protein (CRP) 1.11 mg/L (≤ 3)

Folate - Serum 11.9 ug/L (8.83 - 60.8) 5.9%

Vitamin B12 (active) 63 nmol/L (37.5 - 188) 16.9%

Vitamin D 55 nmol/L (50 - 250) 2.5%

Ferritin 56 ug/L (30 - 150) 21.7%

In the last 3 months I have increased my levothyroxine to 75mcg. Since doing this my free T3 has increased 15% ; my FT4 has increased 14%. My TPO has also decreased slightly.

Should I increase my levo even more?

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Should I increase my levo even more?

That depends on how you feel with those levels. There's plenty of room to increase if you need to, if you feel fine with those levels then you could leave your dose as it is.

Do you take any supplements?

Folate is low and needs improving, it's recommended to be at least half way through range.

Active B12 below 70 suggests testing for B12 deficiency according to Viapath at St Thomas' Hospital:

viapath.co.uk/our-tests/act...

Reference range:>70. *Between 25-70 referred for MMA

There is a link at the bottom of the page to print off the pdf to show your GP to support your request for testing.

Do you have any signs of B12 deficiency – check here:

b12deficiency.info/signs-an...

b12d.org/submit/document?id=46

If you do then list them to discuss with your GP and ask for testing for B12 deficiency and Pernicious Anaemia. Do not take any B12 supplements or folic acid/folate/B Complex supplements before further testing of B12 as this will mask signs of B12 deficiency and skew results and if you have B12 deficiency is not detected and treated then this could affect your nervous system. B12 deficiency should be treated before starting folic acid because folic acid can sometimes improve your symptoms so much that is masks B12 deficiency.

If you don't have any signs/symptoms you could supplement with a B12 sublingual melthylcobalamin, along with a good quality bioavailable B Complex, until Active B12 reaches 100, once that level is reached just continue with the B Complex. The B Complex will also help improve folate level.

Ferritin is low and some experts say the optimal level for thyroid function is 90-110ug/L. You can help raise your level by eating liver regularly, maximum 200g per week due to it's high Vit A content, also liver pate, black pudding, and including lots of iron rich foods in your diet

bda.uk.com/resource/iron-ri...

everydayhealth.com/pictures...

Don't consider taking an iron supplement unless you do an iron panel which includes serum iron, saturation percentage, total iron capacity plus ferritin, if you already have a decent level of serum iron and a good saturation percentage then taking iron tablets can push your iron level even higher, too much iron is as bad as too little.

Vit D is low and you might want to check out a recent post that I wrote about Vit D and supplementing:

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

and you can check out the link to how to work out the dose you need to increase your current level to the recommended level.

Your current level of 55nmol/L = 22ng/ml

and this suggests that you would need 3,700iu D3 daily (nearest is 4,000iu) to reach the recommended level of 100-150nmol/L, along with D3's important cofactors magnesium and Vit K2-MK7.

Once you've reached the recommended level then a maintenance dose will be needed to keep it there, which may be 2000iu daily, maybe more or less, maybe less in summer than winter, it's trial and error so it's recommended to retest once or twice a year to keep within the recommended range. This can be done with a private fingerprick blood spot test with an NHS lab which offers this test to the general public:

vitamindtest.org.uk/

Doctors don't know, because they're not taught much about nutrients, but there are important cofactors needed when taking D3. You will have to buy these yourself.

D3 aids absorption of calcium from food and Vit K2-MK7 directs the calcium to bones and teeth where it is needed and away from arteries and soft tissues where it can be deposited and cause problems such as hardening of the arteries, kidney stones, etc. 90-100mcg K2-MK7 is enough for up to 10,000iu D3.

D3 and K2 are fat soluble so should be taken with the fattiest meal of the day, D3 four hours away from thyroid meds if taking D3 as tablets/capsules/softgels, no necessity if using an oral spray.

For D3 I like Doctor's Best D3 softgels, they are an oil based very small softgel which contains just two ingredients - D3 and extra virgin olive oil, a good quality, nice clean supplement which is budget friendly. Some people like BetterYou oral spray but this contains a lot of excipients and works out more expensive.

For Vit K2-MK7 my suggestions are Vitabay, Vegavero or Vitamaze brands which all contain the correct form of K2-MK7 - the "All Trans" form rather than the "Cis" form. The All Trans form is the bioactive form, a bit like methylfolate is the bioactive form of folic acid.

Vitabay and Vegavero are either tablets or capsules.

Vitabay does do an oil based liquid.

Vitamaze is an oil based liquid.

With the oil based liquids the are xx amount of K2-MK7 per drop so you just take the appropriate amount of drops.

They are all imported German brands, you can find them on Amazon although they do go out of stock from time to time. I get what I can when I need to restock. If the tablet or capsule form is only in 200mcg dose at the time I take those on alternate days.

If looking for a combined D3/K2 supplement, this one has 3,000iu D3 and 50mcg K2-MK7. The K2-MK7 is the All-Trans form

natureprovides.com/products...

It may also be available on Amazon.

One member recently gave excellent feedback on this particular product here:

Here is what she said (also read the following replies):

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Another important cofactor is Magnesium which helps the body convert D3 into it's usable form.

There are many types of magnesium so we have to check to see which one is most suitable for our own needs:

naturalnews.com/046401_magn...

explore.globalhealing.com/t...

and ignore the fact that this is a supplement company, the information is relevant:

swansonvitamins.com/blog/ar...

Magnesium should be taken 4 hours away from thyroid meds and as it tends to be calming it's best taken in the evening. Vit D should also be taken 4 hours away from thyroid meds. Vit K2-MK7 should be taken 2 hours away from thyroid meds. Don't take D3 and K2 at the same time unless both are oil based supplements, they both are fat soluble vitamins which require their own fat to be absorbed otherwise they will compete for the fat.

Don't start all supplements at once. Start with one, give it a week or two and if no adverse reaction then add the next one. Again, wait a week or two and if no adverse reaction add the next one. Continue like this. If you do have any adverse reaction then you will know what caused it.

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Hexagon74 in reply to SeasideSusie

Thank you, this is really helpful. I now feel ready to speak to the doctor on Monday.

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