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Hi all

I've been taking the BetterYou D3000+k2 spray since 9th September. I've stopped taking a multivitamin and intend to replace the iron, B vitamins etc on an individual basis over the next months.

Originally I wasn't going to replace magnesium as a matter of course but my latest magnesium blood test has shown a slight decrease from 0.95 or 1 mmol/L (I had 3 tests last year) (range is 0.7 to 1) to 0.93 in my test done last week.

In your experiences, which is best:

1. pure magnesium or a magnesium and zinc combo?

and

2. cream or tablet?

thanks again

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1. pure magnesium or a magnesium and zinc combo?

Do you know that you need zinc?

Zinc and copper should be balanced. We Hypos often tend to have one high and the other low so really it makes sense to test to see if we need to supplement and, if so, which.

2. cream or tablet?

I think this is down to personal choice.

There are creams, gels and epsom salt baths which will give a certain amount of magnesium.

If taking an oral supplement you need to check to see which is the most suitable form for you:

naturalnews.com/046401_magn...

The following link is included purely to describe the different forms of magnesium, ignore the fact that it mentions calcium is necessary, calcium is only necessary if you test and found to be deficient and then your GP should address that

explore.globalhealing.com/t...

and ignore the fact that this is a supplement company, the information is relevant:

swansonvitamins.com/blog/ar...

Oral magnesium should be taken 4 hours away from thyroid meds and as it tends to be calming it's best taken in the evening. The usual dose is 350-450mg of elemental magnesium daily - check the elemental amount as this can be different from the total amount shown on the packaging, eg magnesium taurate 600mg from one producer contains 200mg elemental magnesium, the rest is taurine.

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Souzy in reply toSeasideSusie

Thanks SeasideSusie,

I'm not on any thyroid medication, I've been officially declared euthyroid on my medical notes. I do have high TPO antibodies (621% through range) and a goitre. I'm in the no man's land of monitoring my TSH which is actually fallen over the last year from nearly 4 to 1.21. I don't feel well currently though.😔

I have no idea if I am deficient in zinc, I asked only because so many magnesium supplements include zinc and I wondered if this was a relationship similar to the vitamin D and K2.

Can I get tested for copper and zinc deficiencies with the NHS? If so what symptoms would trigger an agreement to test?

I see one of those links recommends supplementing calcium with magnesium? I don't know if my calcium levels are optimum but they have increased slightly over the last year and are currently: serum calcium 60% through range and serum adjusted calcium concentration is 75% through range but it has been up and down through out the year.

Having read though those links several times (my brainfog is very real 😣) I like these amazon.co.uk/dp/B09GL3DCSZ/... They are not the most expensive, they contain 480mg if taking 3 tablets daily (it recommends 4 which equals 640mg). From those articles, the taurate part can help heart health and lower blood pressure. I have had heart palpitations before (almost certainly due to low potassium) and a higher than optimal blood pressure despite taking medication for it (especially the diastolic). I have a home blood pressure machine (as advised by the GP) so I can monitor blood pressure. I take 6 sandoK tablets plus 5mg ramipril daily. Have I missed any vital information on why the magnesium taurate might be problematic for me?

Thanks

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply toSouzy

Can I get tested for copper and zinc deficiencies with the NHS? If so what symptoms would trigger an agreement to test?

I don't think they'd routinely test for them, like a lot of tests we Hypos sometimes have to do them ourselves. You'd need to check for symptoms.

I see one of those links recommends supplementing calcium with magnesium?

Oh, which link is that, I'll check it out and see whether I need to remove the link.

I like these amazon.co.uk/dp/B09GL3DCSZ/... They are not the most expensive, they contain 480mg if taking 3 tablets daily (it recommends 4 which equals 640mg).

Those contain 160mg elemental magnesium per 4 capsules, so 40mg elemental magnesium per capsule.

This is the one I use:

tomolivernutrition.com/prod...

and they contain 200mg elemental magnesium per 1 capsule - see

tomolivernutrition.com/blog...

Tom Oliver Nutrition Magnesium Supplement

Easily Absorbed

It contains only 200 mg of magnesium per vegan capsule.

Yet, magnesium taurate is highly absorbable (up to 80%) so you don’t have to worry about elemental magnesium being delivered where needed.

If you're interested in that one it's for sale on Amazon for the same price. However, buying direct and signing up for their emails means they send you offers from time time. My most recent purchase I got 50% off and a free bottle of their Vit C. I always buy their 3 bottle offer which is normally £24.99 and got them for £12.49 and the free Vit C. I take mine for heart health as I have had episodes of sporadic tachycardia.

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Souzy in reply toSeasideSusie

Thanks again, I'll have a proper look at those links later but wanted to put in the calcium link for you.

It's this one explore.globalhealing.com/t...

"Magnesium supplements are best taken with calcium. For this reason, I developed IntraCal™. It provides the best ratio of calcium and magnesium orotate."

(Just above the references)

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply toSouzy

Thank you. I've edited the information I include for this link.

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Souzy in reply toSeasideSusie

I've ordered a 3 month supply to see how it goes :)

Thank you again Susie.

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