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Having posted about slightly high magnesium level. Can I ask if anyone has experienced this and what you did. ?

I have had 1 pot of magnesium 400mcg . There were 60tabs in there and I have taken them over. A period of 1 and a half years . Can’t see that would be an overdose.

1.05. Range 0.66 - 0.99

Seems a small increase Should I report to doctor as it was Blue horizen test?

Thanks

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Saggyuk

Hi there, apologies not too much knowledge in this area but I know hypothyroidism can cause high magnesium so what are your thyroid levels like?

I did accidentally overdose magnesium one day as seems I had enough already and tried to supplement with adverse affects. All I know is I I started craving high potassium and calcium things - I think I took two potassium tablets, ate six bananas in a row and chugged down a few pints of milk lol IT seemed to make it better. I'm quite good at knowing what my body is craving? - this is absolutely not scientific so certainly not recommending these actions and this was for a solution to a one off incident. ;-)

However, magnesium is one of the electrolytes along with potassium, sodium, calcium etc and you have problems when these are not in balance with each other so my bizarre actions kind of make sense.

Maybe start with the basics, do you get enough calcium and potassium in your diet? Or too much magnesium? Are you taking any other supplements with magnesium added - many multi vits or b vits etc? Drugs like lithium, laxatives or other stomach things sometimes have magnesium in too. Even epsom salt baths would maybe add to the load?

I suppose if it was high and you wanted to look into it further, you would maybe consider a kidney function test and bone profile test maybe but I expect someone else will have a better answer for you shortly?

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Gcart in reply to Saggyuk

Thankyou for your help .

Not sure what im doing wrong,

One thing is I started using non dairy milk , that has been for about 5 months now . You mentioned calcium levels ?

Maybe that has upset apple cart!

Oh dear . I am taking nothing else that could cause it 🤔

Thanks anyway G

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SilverAvocado in reply to Gcart

Gcart, an unrelated important thing with non-daiey millennia not to have Soya milk. Soy is very bad for the endocrine system.

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BadHare in reply to SilverAvocado

Nut & oat milks are fine! :)

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Gcart in reply to BadHare

Thank you for letting me know. G

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SilverAvocado in reply to BadHare

Oh yes. I should have said that! Just seen all my terrible typos. You did well to understand me!

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silverfox7

What do you mean by non dairy milk? Not Soy I hope as that's a no no.

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Starfish123 in reply to silverfox7

Sheep or goats milk are non dairy, it’s just cows produce that classes as dairy.

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BadHare in reply to Starfish123

I've never heard that before, & thought all cattle animal milk would be classed as a dairy product.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to BadHare

I would most certainly include the milks of all mammals kept for milk in "dairy".

Whilst I wouldn't claim Wiki as the most authoritative source, it agrees:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dairy...

I cannot locate a single definition that excludes sheep and goats. Indeed, for many centuries, cows milk was relatively rarely consumed by humans and most milk came from sheep and goats. On that basis, any very old building called a dairy was possibly exclusively used for sheep and goat milk - originally.

I'd be interested in any good references which say otherwise.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to helvella

From the Food Standards Agency:

'Dairy products’ / ‘dairy’ – accepted industry practice are considered equivalent to “milk products” and mean products derived exclusively from milk, on the understanding that substances necessary for their manufacture may be added provided that those substances are not used for the purpose of replacing, in whole or in part, any milk constituent.

‘Milk’ is the normal mammary secretion obtained from one or more milkings; however, if not bovine (cow or buffalo) the origin must be stated (Section II point 4 of Annex XII). The FLRs 8 require milk that is not from cows to be clearly labelled (for example milk from a buffalo, even though it is of bovine origin, should be explicitly labelled as “buffalo milk”).

food.gov.uk/sites/default/f...

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Gcart

Hi it’s almond and sometimes coconut milk ,wondering if that has caused the imbalance ? Just tried both GFand milk Free to help with bowel problems . Am feeling better as a result , bit unsure now ☹️

Not that I am aware of any symptoms that high magnesium could cause .

Thanks for reading G

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I might be worng about this butit would make sense to me.Iwouldthink you levels might behigher ifa bit deyhdrated. Drinking too much water can reduce levels drastically.

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Not if you drink Evian water I do it contains trace elements of Magnesium.

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Gcart in reply to

Thanks for input. Just hope it settles with all the advice

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Gcart

I will make sure that I am hydrated , that may help the situation. Thanks.

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swingtime

Hi,

Serum levels of magnesium are not the best indicator of the bodies magnesium status, red blood cell testing is much more accurate. Medichecks do this test to my knowledge. Serum levels are maintained at all costs as low levels disrupt most bodily functions and the body will pull magnesium from bone and soft tissue to maintain serum levels. It's possible to have good serum levels whilst at a cellular level you are deficient. The fact you take supplements will give a false reading anyway, unless you stopped taking them a few days before your blood test.

Being hypothyroid will push magnesium levels up, whereas over medication or hyperthyroidism will send them down.

Calcium is an antagonist to magnesium, it causes muscle contraction, while magnesium causes relaxation, this is why cramps and muscle spasms are a sign of magnesium deficiency.

My advise would be to stop taking the supplements and get a red cell test to see what's really going on before deciding what to do. Hope this helps,

Best wishes

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Gcart

Thankyou swingtime. I will take your advice. 🙂

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BadHare

Maybe drop to 300mcg a day?

I take 200mcg as I eat magnesium rich foods, or use a transdermal spray or epsom salt baths. I don't know my levels, but do know I want sugar & suffer with cramp if I don't supplement.

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Gcart

Badhare. I don’t actually take magnesium , have used them last year but only very occasionally.

Still have 20 in the pot of 60 from 2016 .? Maybe test could be skewed

G

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BadHare in reply to Gcart

Sorry, I thought you took 400mcg a day, which I think is the RDA for men, & 320mcg for women. My pill pot states 4 100mcg as a daily dose.

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