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Blood tests re Aches and pains after exercise

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Hi

Here at my recent blood tests you asked for;

18/12/18 not fasting and with medication.

Serum TSH 0.76 min/L (0.35-4.94)

Serum Vitamin B12 709 ng/L (187-883)

Serum Folate 17.1 NG90/ml (3.1 - 20)

Serum Vitamin D 76 nmol/ L

15/01/19

Serum free T4 13.4 pmol/L (9-19)

Serum TSH 1.1 miu/L (0.35- 4.94)

They didn’t do ferritin or iron for some reason. Other tests they did are Urea and electrolytes, full blood count and liver function tests. If you need to see them will send in another message. Hope this gives you an idea what could be wrong.

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Was your January test not fasting and with medication too?

Serum Vitamin B12 709 ng/L (187-883)

B12 is OK. According to an extract from the book, "Could it be B12?" by Sally M. Pacholok:

"We believe that the 'normal' serum B12 threshold needs to be raised from 200 pg/ml to at least 450 pg/ml because deficiencies begin to appear in the cerebrospinal fluid below 550".

"For brain and nervous system health and prevention of disease in older adults, serum B12 levels should be maintained near or above 1000 pg/ml."

Serum Folate 17.1 NG90/ml (3.1 - 20)

That's fine, folate is recommended to be at least half way through range.

Serum Vitamin D 76 nmol/ L (= 30.4ng/ml)

Not too bad but The Vit D Council recommends a level of 125nmol/L (50ng/ml) and the Vit D Society recommends a level of 100-150nmol/L (40-60ng/ml). It may increase as we are now approaching summer, but as you say you have aches and pains you may want to optimise it. If so, the Vit D Council recommends, to raise your current level to their recommended level, supplementing with 2,500iu D3 daily vitamindcouncil.org/i-teste...

Retest in 3 months and when you've reached the recommended level then you'll need a maintenance dose to keep it there, which may be 2000iu daily, maybe more or less, maybe less in summer than winter, it's trial and error so it's recommended to retest once or twice a year to keep within the recommended range. You can do this with a private fingerprick blood spot test with an NHS lab which offers this test to the general public:

vitamindtest.org.uk/

D3 softgels containing extra virgin olive oil (eg Doctors Best) are better than tablets or capsules, or you could go for an oral spray or sublingual drops.

There are important cofactors needed when taking D3 as recommended by the Vit D Council -

vitamindcouncil.org/about-v...

D3 aids absorption of calcium from food and K2-MK7 directs the calcium to bones and teeth where it is needed and away from arteries and soft tissues where it can be deposited and cause problems such as hardening of the arteries, kidney stones, etc.

D3 and K2 are fat soluble so should be taken with the fattiest meal of the day, D3 four hours away from thyroid meds if taking tablets/capsules/softgels, no necessity if using an oral spray

Magnesium helps D3 to work. We need Magnesium so that the body utilises D3, it's required to convert Vit D into it's active form. So it's important we ensure we take magnesium when supplementing with D3.

Magnesium comes in different forms, check to see which would suit you best and as it's calming it's best taken in the evening, four hours away from thyroid meds if taking tablets/capsules, no necessity if using topical forms of magnesium.

naturalnews.com/046401_magn...

Check out the other cofactors too (some of which can be obtained from food).

If any of your other results are out of range you could post them for members to comment but you really need Ferritin, B12 and thyroid antibodies testing.

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5219 in reply to SeasideSusie

Yes it was. I’m sure GPS don’t do things right sometimes.

I think I will do a private test to double check. Will increase my Vit D intake and see how that goes. Thanks for your information

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Just testing TSH and FT4 is completely inadequate

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested. Also extremely important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12

Low vitamin levels are extremely common, especially if Thyroid antibodies are raised

Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and fasting. Last Levothyroxine dose should be 24 hours prior to test, (taking delayed dose immediately after blood draw). This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip, best not mentioned to GP or phlebotomist)

Private tests are available. Thousands on here forced to do this as NHS often refuses to test FT3 or antibodies or all vitamins

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/testin...

Medichecks Thyroid plus ultra vitamin or Blue Horizon Thyroid plus eleven are the most popular choice. DIY finger prick test or option to pay extra for private blood draw. Both companies often have special offers, Medichecks usually have offers on Thursdays, Blue Horizon its more random

If antibodies are high this is Hashimoto's, (also known by medics here in UK more commonly as autoimmune thyroid disease).

About 90% of all hypothyroidism in Uk is due to Hashimoto's.

Low vitamins are especially common with Hashimoto's. Food intolerances are very common too, especially gluten. So it's important to get TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested at least once .

Link about thyroid blood tests

thyroiduk.org/tuk/testing/t...

Link about antibodies and Hashimoto's

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

List of hypothyroid symptoms

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

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5219 in reply to SlowDragon

When I read through all the results I was annoyed the fact they still hadn’t done all the tests needed. I will do a private test and see what that shows. I’m fed up with being told by GP everything is fine when it certainly isn’t.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to 5219

Hence almost 100,000 members on here.

NHS treatment and lack of full testing is currently completely inadequate

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