Circadian T3 Method

[janeold25]

I know the circadian T3 method can be used to increase low cortisol levels.

Can the circadian T3 method be used to increase DHEA?

Have been on DHEA for 4 months not getting on very well with it.

Your comments would be appreciated.

[marsaday]

when we help cortisol production we usually up the dhea. This happens because the body now has more cortisol and so it can pay more attention to dhea production.

What amount of dhea do you take. Many people use to much. The max daily amount should be 5 mcg per day

[janeold25 in reply to marsaday]

I was on 25 mg per day as my DHEA was very low but as I have been getting aggressive and had acne have been advised to reduce it to 25mg twice a week.

[marsaday in reply to janeold25]

Yes far to high. Better to buy the 5mcg tablet size and look at taking them alternate days. So 2.5mcg per day.

It is important to have a rest from these hormones for a week every 6 weeks approx.

dhea is commonly low in thyroid patients as the adrenals end up compensating for low energy output from the thyroid. Hence dhea is ignored at the expense of maintaining cortisol production.

T4 at bedtime is also a good way to help improve adrenal function. It is the same process as using t3 in the early hours but you can take it at sleep time and so no need to wake up in the night.

[janeold25 in reply to marsaday]

Thank-you for your reply, can you recommend a DHEA to buy? Don't really know what to buy it's a bit of a mine field for me.

So taking T4 at night will help raise DHEA am I understanding that correctly? Will that not also increase my cortisol which is currently at the top of the range?

My DHEA is 24 range 40-290

My cortisol is 19.6 range 8.5-19.8

Took my T4 at bed time last night - slept all night for the first time in 2 years and felt calm of waking instead of anxious.....thank-you.

[marsaday in reply to janeold25]

This is good news. Your body has reacted as it should with thyroid coming into the system at its most natural time.

This allows the body to work correctly and so I imagine cortisol production will lower in response to the higher thyroid level. This will also allow dhea to come up.

These 3 hormones are closely linked and so often if you fix thyroid correctly the cortisol/ dhea rebalance as well.

I would hold back on the dhea sups for now and see how you get on with thyroid taken at nighttime. This one change can affect a lot of stuff as I have mentioned so take the time to see how it plays out.

So many people add this or that and make simple timing changes all at once without realising our system is a very subtle interlinked set up.

[janeold25 in reply to marsaday]

Many thanks marsaday, how long do you think it would take to feel the full benefit from taking Levo at night?

Want to make sure I give it enough time to take full effect before I pass judgement on it.

[marsaday in reply to janeold25]

2 weeks should be long enough and then you go back to trying the morning routine and see what the difference is.

Doing tests like this is the best way to see what is working and isn't. Sometimes we are not aware that some type of protocol is actually working for us, but when we remove it you can really see the positive difference you were experiencing.

I tried taking my T4 for just one morning and the difference was huge. I have never gone back to morning dosing.

Some people don't get on with night time dosing, we are all different. The best approach is to be methodical in your approach to using hormones and vitamins and make changes slowly, one at a time and then back test them to see if they are working out as you think they are. Getting ill again can be great confirmation what you were doing was the correct thing. It is a nice feeling being able to correct your off days pretty quickly with small adjustments learnt over the months and years.

[janeold25 in reply to marsaday]

Many thanks.