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Jenniferf49
Jenniferf49

Hi all some advice please had my pip appeal today. I had finished work 5 months before I applied for pip. But have made such a mistake tried to work in between that lasted two weeks. It was on my medical records so so then that means I was only on the sick for two months. So I'd say I won't win now

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You can work and still get pip. I don’t see why it will go against you, you tried and couldn’t keep it up. If anything I would say it shows how the illness has affected you.

Jenniferf49
Jenniferf49
in reply to xdianex

Thank you

Hidden
Hidden

Correct me if i am wrong but I thought pip was being dumped and UC coming into effect instead which is meant to be harder to claim?

I would be surprised if UC was given for Fibro to be honest or any sort of benefit as it isn’t a disability

desquinn
desquinnAdministrator
in reply to Hidden

"I would be surprised if UC was given for Fibro to be honest or any sort of benefit as it isn’t a disability"

sorry but why? It does not matter your condition or whether you are disabled. it matters whether you pass the assessment and this is tested on you being able to or not able to do certain things.

Hidden
Hidden
in reply to desquinn

Is pip based on disability specifically? But UC combines any health issues/working tax credits/child care stuff?

desquinn
desquinnAdministrator
in reply to Hidden

perhaps this will help you: carersuk.org/help-and-advic...

and this for UC: carersuk.org/help-and-advic...

Hidden
Hidden
in reply to desquinn

Cool excellent thanks I actually thought anybody who worked either FT or PT despite having Fibro for eg wasn’t entitled to anything whatsoever

desquinn
desquinnAdministrator
in reply to Hidden

person in a wheelchair may need help due to their condition but with a ramp can work fine. Disabled, entitled to benefits and able to work. All separate things.

Hidden
Hidden
in reply to desquinn

Seems so, I thought everything was now amalgamated into this UC and if you are at all receiving income salary from an employer then even if you are unwell with an illness such a Fibro you ain’t entitled to anything just consistently paying into the country!

Mdaisy
MdaisyAdministrator
in reply to Hidden
Fudge57
Fudge57
in reply to Hidden

Universal credit and pip are two completely separate things

Loobylooe
Loobylooe
in reply to desquinn

Hi, fibro is classed as a disability

desquinn
desquinnAdministrator
in reply to Loobylooe

Can

WF2k
WF2k
in reply to Hidden

No, it's not being dumped, UC is going to take over benefits like ESA, JSA, Income Support etc. PIP won't be replaced by UC.

gov.uk/universal-credit

Hidden
Hidden
in reply to WF2k

Ah right I thought all benefits including pip were being scrapped so it is just ONE title that everything falls under

xdianex
xdianex
in reply to Hidden

UC will be taking over ESA eventually but not pip as far as I know. As for fibro being a disability it’s how it bad it affects you. I know there’s a petition going to parliament asking for it to be recognised as a disability.

Jamie1965
Jamie1965
in reply to xdianex

On benefits and work website it states that fibromyalgia is now a recognised disability so petition must have been successful

WF2k
WF2k
in reply to Jamie1965

Do you have a link please? :)

Jamie1965
Jamie1965
in reply to WF2k
WF2k
WF2k
in reply to Jamie1965

What page is it on, please?

Jamie1965
Jamie1965
in reply to WF2k

Not sure it was about 2 weeks ago but you can normally look back through what has happened it’s a really good site

WF2k
WF2k
in reply to Jamie1965

Ok, thanks :)

Jamie1965
Jamie1965
in reply to WF2k

researchbriefings.parliamen... This is the link for when it was debated in January with the mp’s

WF2k
WF2k
in reply to Jamie1965

Yeah, I listened to the debate, it was pretty interesting :)

The group that did the petition have been talking about some news they have from another visit to London but they can't yet tell people what it is as they need to wait for it to be made public. I hope it doesn't take too long! I don't know how you get links from FB posts otherwise I'd link it to you.

Hidden
Hidden
in reply to Hidden

I was told by St Thomas’ Hospital London that pain is a disability.

Farmerboy
Farmerboy
in reply to Hidden

PIP is not awarded for a disability, illnesses or the volume of medication you are taking .it is awarded on your abilities to meet and do the PIP descriptors in a safely, repeatable and timely manner in acordence with the PIP regulations. PIP is not being replaced.

Dumfries
Dumfries
in reply to Hidden

Fibro is a disability

Hidden
Hidden

Right I get it. Fibro tends to affect people so differently too I mean I go along fine for weeks then dreadful for weeks some how work place then becomes confused as to the dramatic drop in my health then a period of stabilisation again

Hidden
Hidden

You can work and get PIPS. They base their assessment on what you can’t do.

I am on PIP and UC. I got full mobility points for PIP but UC say I'm fit for work. The system is a joke.

People in wheelchairs often work so the system is designed to identify mobility needs for PIP. PIP is not about whether you work or not. People who are working can get PIP including the Enhanced Rates.

You can appeal the UC/ESA decision. Ask for Mandatory Reconsideration first.

Am i right in saying the DWP dont recognise fybro as a disability?

M0AL61
M0AL61Administrator
in reply to Mammahouse

desquinn , can you answer this?

desquinn
desquinnAdministrator
in reply to Mammahouse

Under the equality act it is an impairment that can cause you to be disabled

Fibromyalgia is a disability if you satisfy the definition in the UK's Equalities Act 2010. You're disabled under the Equality Act 2010 if you have a physical or mental impairment that has a 'substantial' and 'long-term' negative effect on your ability to do normal daily activities. DWP follow this legislation.

I thought you would get a decision whileat tribunal. ?

No getting it in a few days

Uc is different it covers all benefits but I don’t know if pip is actually included as that’s a seprerate benefit I’m sure it’s on it’s own it’s a disability benefit even if there all payed together there all separate benefits just payed in the one payment I’d ask citizens advice or wait a coupele of weeks maybe three and phone to ask for update on your pip they’ll tell you if decisions been made or with accessor then ask them for. Update on your claim usuallly get a letter telling you it’s with accessor but I’d phone and ask Do think it’s separate claim just payment. That are put into one but they’d still be asseced differently

PIP isn't being replaced by UC. There's a list on the site below :)

gov.uk/universal-credit

Hi, usually they let you know at the tribunal?

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Jenniferf49
Jenniferf49
in reply to Hidden

No they said I would get a letter in a few days

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Jenniferf49
Jenniferf49
in reply to Hidden

Its hateful having to wait.

Pip is totally different from UC think you might be thinking of esa and if you are entitled to the contribution based esa that is not covered under UCeither I work and get pip I also get working tax credits it is the working tax that is moving to UC

Oh god having to go to tribunal is bad enough not getting a decision while there is bad ..hope it goes well

Don't think I will get it to be fair. But thanks

I live in an area where universal Credits are already up and running, I applied for pip after and got Standard rate on both . I have my ESA Assessment on Friday so fingers crossed but when o went to job centre I was the first to apply for employment Esa and nobody really new how to complete form. I did get Esa . Pip I get paid monthly and lower rate Esa every 2 weeks. But see what happens on Friday. I am too ill to work but might need to go back if no luck at the assessment, been off a year now but I know if I go back I will end up collapsing again and back in hospital 🏥 . Hope you get it sorted 💝

You can contact DWP

And put that forwards towards you claim

Tell them what has happened and you are worried

Kind regards 😊

Hi all lost my appeal

WF2k
WF2k
in reply to Jenniferf49

Sorry to hear that :(

I'd do as Ajay has suggested. If you have any sort of advice centre, contact them and see if they will fill the form in for you.

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Jenniferf49
Jenniferf49
in reply to Hidden

Thanks I will reapply at the end of march

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