pip appeal

[Jeskin]

Good morning,

I hope everyone is well as can be this morning.

This heat seems to have caused all my symptoms to flare, I just don’t know what to do with myself 😞

Anyway I had a PIP appeal turned down and was just wondering should I take it to the higher tribunal or just let it go .

I scored 6 for the first part and none for mobility even though I told the assessor first off that I struggle with the stairs and it takes me longer to walk anywhere.

It all just causes so much stress !

I am going to go to the CAB in the week but just wondering what you all think.

Enjoy your day

Jeskins

[Yassytina FMA UK Volunteer]

Good morning , yes the heat has been quite extreme and it must be hard to be in a flare with the heat on top and also trying to deal with PIP. I hope CAB can offer the right help and also members will pop on with advice from their own experiences, take care , rest up , plenty of extra fluids , English weather hey 🤣2 weeks ago it was 15 degrees here in Suffolk then It went too 29 degrees and 27/28 this week ,so differently slowed me up , drinking more fluids and kept out of heat for sure Xx

[Blue-52]

morning, if you can’t stand for long, or walk 20 metres without stopping and being in pain, you won’t get awarded points for mobility. I think their decision was although you struggle with stairs, you still manage to use them. Sorry, but that’s how they work, I don’t know if you took it to a higher tribunal, it would be the same result, because of the stairs, I know it’s a pain, literally. I wish I had a better reply.

[Endolemon]

I would definitely go to the tribunal. Just don't do it yourself. Use CAB or other organizations to help because they know how to do it right.

[Blue-52]

Thanks M8. I just did my universal credit, and that stated 20, so I got that wrong for pip.

[Blue-52]

That’s probably where I got confused, as on high rate ? 🙄.

plodding on, trying not to get any more injuries, from kissing the floor.

I hope you are doing better?.

[CM1EDSUK]

As Ajay says, an error in law has to be found to appeal to an Upper Tribunal, & whilst errors can often be found, it's whether they might then might be such that they could change your award. So, a fresh claim is in order.

Unfortunately difficulty using stairs isn't part of the mobility descriptors, so you do need to think about & understand these descriptors rather than using the same evidence again. Please look at the descriptors here: cambridgeshire.gov.uk/asset... & this link gives a fuller explanation as to what the assessors are looking at (please look especially at the 'reliability' section): gov.uk/government/publicati...

You can do it yourself, or look for local help here: advicelocal.uk/ I'm unsure that Citizens Advice will be able to help with errors in law, but hopefully would be able to assist with a new claim.

If you look at the links above I think you should be able to find free advice online rather than paying for it, & please do come back with any further questions.

[Smudger119]

I took them to tribunal and a week before it they awarded me. I think it is worth a try.

I also find any change in temperature affects me and makes it harder to do anything. In the heat it just wipes me out and all I can do is lay down and sleep.

Good luck and hope you get the outcome you want

[Awee]

Yes, absolutely take it higher! Whilst I know that the wording for the DWP, and their assessors, is ‘on a good day’, well that doesn’t always work for those of us with FM. Going forward, try and give a reasonable response, but highlight your worst days, as I feel that these are times that really affect us most. Good luck 🤞

[Kalamazoo1]

take it to the tribunal I did and they rang me the day they were meant to send all their paperwork to the tribunal and settled the claim in my favour . I hope you get what you need like I did , I will keep my fingers crossed for you. I hope this helps , take care and stay safe xx

[Meditationlover]

Jeskin, definitely take it higher, my sister did, and ended up with high on both parts , wishing you luck

[Farmerboy]

This is for general information not so much a reply to Jeskin.

I know it’s to late but this applies to all applications for PIP. Ajay has said and myself in the past read up on the PIP criteria for claiming and by understanding the requirements of each activity will should give you a better strategy on filling in your application form giving as much information and evidence on your abilities and inabilities on preforming the PIP activities. By taking a look at the information available online you will should be able to complete your application form with the correct and necessary information.

[Yvettef64]

Hi yes definitely appeal. I had mine turned down. I went to the tribunal and it was authorised. It took a year but all the money is backdated.

As for a flare up of symptoms for a couple of days I have been in so much pain I found it hard to get out of bed.

[Blue-52]

I think I remember what you mean, take it easy.

[Adohr]

Hi

Keep strong keep fighting you need someone in the Medical Team to write

“” at this time Ms Jeskin is unemployable her future status is not yet determined “

Her daily status is unpredictable from a mobility and pain status which make her unreliable to meet the criteria necessary to be employed .

I would suggest that as it worked for me from my Neurologist

The wording must give the impression that you can’t work at this time PERIOD

Hope this helps

Good Luck

PS tell your union member if there is one Also take off sick whenever you can’t go to work

YOU DESERVE HELP 👍😍❤️

[LhasaMomma]

If this helps any ..... I have Higher for Mobility but not for Daily ..... I can get from my back door to the car in my driveway at the side of my house on most days. After that, I use the car to park right outside the shop or clinic I need - that can mean driving into our small town and moving my car five or six times. Otherwise, I have to use my mobility scooter which is kept in the boot. Walking around a supermarket is very difficult on a good day but impossible on a bad day (about 4 days out of 7 I struggle to get out of bed these days). I shop groceries online generally. When I was working, I had a second mobility scooter which work allowed me to park in the security office but which allowed me to move between labs and offices. I can manage (lol) two low steps but cannot manage the two normal height steps out my front door - I live in a bungalow because I couldn't make the stairs at all. My dog groomer also takes my little girl out for a proper walk twice a week - I have a huge back garden and most days she plays outside with her kitty brother quite happily ..... However, we have worked out a parking spot the other side of a low wall and inside that park is a seat so I can go there on a bright day and sit sipping a coffee while she runs around with her dog friends - maybe six times a year.

If I do go out, I very carefully coordinate my pain meds because I will be in a lot of pain when I get home, need to take medications, and then will have to lie down and sleep for a couple of hours.

I needed letters from my employers and from my GP and Consultant actually stating she can barely walk, uses both sticks and mobility scooters. They questioned and questioned me even so. Aside from Fibromyalgia, I have severe arthritis in my neck, spine, and both knees as well as an autoimmune, diabetes, and IBS. There biggest issue was that I had such a "positive attitude", had worked for thirty years, and that I obviously had a very high IQ and was "resourceful" (no idea how any of those affect my physical inability to move!).