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Hello!

I had a faint line since dpo 9. The line seems to progress well. I opted to not know my hcgs this time, as it sent me spiralling last time. I've not had a single symptom since dpo 9 when I had a headache in the evening prompting me to test. I have had 3 losses at 5-7 weeks last year, and I'm so worried. Initially I've read stories of no symptoms during tww, no symptoms at week 4 and now I'm week 5, still no symptoms. As weeks go by, the stories get more negative. I'm on progesterone, aspirin and clexane, I would have thought at least progesterone will give me some symptoms but nothing. No tiredness, no nausea, no sore boobs, no cramping nothing.

I have a scan at week 7, I fully expect this has failed. I'm not sure how to go from there as that will be MC #4 and the only one where I took meds to support. I'm feeling negative 😔

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Kitkat10

hi, please try not to worry about symptoms, I had nothing until at least 7 weeks. At 6 weeks I thought I had some mild nausea but I now think it was anxiety. Only at around 7 weeks did I start with mild food aversions. Symptoms come and go even at that stage and can be different between people, without any difference in outcome. Everything crossed for you, I know it’s an anxious time xx

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PenpalLdn in reply to Kitkat10

Thank you so much. I have a scan booked for 7 weeks but I know that nothing will 100% reassure me until I have my little baby with me. I hope one day I'll get to enjoy the pregnancy!

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XOXO13

Hello,

Gentle congratulations on your BFP! On my successful round of IVF, I had really high HCg numbers and still no symptoms AND I was pregnant with twins. I asked my doctor about it and she said it’s very common for women not to experience any symptoms, it’s just that those who do, talk about them.

I’m pregnant now, only around 5+ weeks (natural surprise conception) and I also don’t have any symptoms and I feel very anxious because I would rather have some symptoms to give me reassurance but I keep telling myself that symptoms or no symptoms don’t tell you much at this stage. We just have to have a little faith 🙏🏼

Sending you lots of positivity and luck 🍀 xx

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PenpalLdn in reply to XOXO13

Thank you, feel free to reach out if you need someone to talk to. I have a little boy, who I had all types of symptoms at this stage, and the MCs also had symptoms, so this is new to me. Such an anxious time, I dreamt of positive test and previous losses just put me so on guard.

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PenpalLdn in reply to PenpalLdn

And congratulations on the twins and the new pregnancy. It is wonderful to hear of success without symptoms, we always have a chance

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XOXO13 in reply to PenpalLdn

Thank you. They’re over 2 now and such a joy. I completely empathise with how you’re feeling because I remember having zero symptoms and just being so anxious but every pregnancy is different 🤍

And thank you, you too. I do feel more alone in this than I did with my IVF pregnancy because I had the clinic as my guide and safety net whereas I’m totally on my own in knowing how to manage a natural pregnancy. I’m taking aspirin and been recommended to take progesterone by my private doctor but the NHS won’t prescribe it to me so I’m back and forth trying to get hold of that to give me some security! It’s never easy, is it!

Hope everything goes smoothly for you. Keep us posted xx

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PenpalLdn in reply to XOXO13

I was supposed to start IVF in July. Thankfully the IVF clinic prescribed progesterone and clexane. You might be able to ask your previous doctor for reassurance?I am also pregnant by surprise naturally. But I had 3 MCs, so I did a lot of tests privately and was able to get back to those doctors for medication. It's my first time with medication. Nhs refused everything to do with medication even though I have a blood clotting condition. I brought letters and even prescriptions and they still refused.

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XOXO13 in reply to PenpalLdn

I’m similar, two previous miscarriages before the twins and my private doctor is the one who prescribed the progesterone via my GP (because it’s then free). He’s on holiday now so I’ve contacted my IVF clinic today to see if they’d prescribe the progesterone. It’s sad the NHS is making it so difficult for me to get hold of it and have said I don’t fit the criteria and I’m not bleeding so they can’t. They just said I have to trust that it’ll be fine because it’s a natural pregnancy but I’ve miscarried with a naturally pregnancy previously so that doesn’t fill me with a lot of faith.

So pleased you have some medication to offer you a safety net even if it isn’t needed and it’s more that mental support (which I’m thinking is what it is for me!).

We were also due to start IVF again in October after delaying our start date from July! Whilst I’m terrified, it’s nice to have been able to have a surprise pregnancy 💛

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PenpalLdn in reply to XOXO13

For what it's worth for each of my MCs (natural pregnancies), I did progesterone test (while not on progesterone) and it was always good level. For me I'm hoping it's the clexane that improves blood clotting though blood clotting is more likely to improve outcomes for later MCs I heard. To be honest egg quality seems to be the absolute most important thing and I have no control over that, and natural pregnancy is as good chance as IVF!It really is lovely to be pregnant again after a year and the year before being quite depressing. I hope the best of luck for us.

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XOXO13 in reply to PenpalLdn

Thank you, that is reassuring. I’ve never really had a problem with my progesterone levels from what I know but because I trust my private gynaecologist, I’d more comfortable just having it as a security. It doesn’t hurt to take it I guess!

I felt the clexane also helped me sustain my twin pregnancy. I’m not taking it this time but hoping it’ll be okay without it. I’m on aspirin.

Best of luck to you 🤍

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PenpalLdn in reply to XOXO13

Yes exactly, and absolutely no harm and can only help taking progesterone. I hope you can get it through your clinic!

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MrsOrangejuice

You wouldn't get symptoms with aspirin, not sure about clexane but if you're not getting symptoms with the synthetic progesterone maybe your body is just handling it really well. I read that if you are sensitive to oestrogen you can get really bad morning sickness and that was definitely true for me, maybe it's the same with progesterone. You may just be one of the lucky people who don't get symptoms. Plus each pregnancy can be different - my first I was sick early on and it went on pretty much the whole time whereas the second it started later, was very intense and then stopped really suddenly around 10/11 weeks not to really return. I also had very strong symptoms after a transfer that ended early and it turned out the HCG had never got high enough and must have just been the meds, so what I took as strong pregnancy symptoms gave me false hope. If you're not getting HCGs then it's probably best to just try and distract yourself until the scan and ignore any symptoms or the lack of as I don't think they mean much. But I know that's easy to say.

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PenpalLdn in reply to MrsOrangejuice

Thank you OrangeJuice. I know good hcg and symptoms is not a guarantee but not having any symptoms is just so weird for me. I would have thought even a little cramp so the baby is getting comfortable. Maybe I am lucky. I keep some hope but this feels like a miracle at this moment.

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Conceivingblee

Hey PenpalLdnI'm 13dp5dt today got my BFP on Monday via hcg and hpt.

I have zero symptons my med symptons tailed off at 3dpt aswell so I was flawed when it came back pregnant. My last cycle was chemical hcg never got above 500 and I was nauseas, tired, uterus was swollen and my wee smelt. I though those thing were med related but I didn't get them this time so think they were pregnancy symptons so was expecting all those things again... but No.

I board the crazy train to HCG town and have got another 3 tests booked in as I can't cope not knowing. So you are brave and obviously saner than I am.

I will obviously keep weeing on a stick to and analysing the line strength 🤯🤯

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PenpalLdn in reply to Conceivingblee

Congrats! I know this anxious time too well. I had no symptoms in tww except one evening of headache. I hope we are just lucky! I went to a horrible anxious place doing hcg last time, I had 65% increase each time before and around 6 weeks with both low hcg level and low increase, I miscarried. I don't want to go through the same anxiety and rather just poas this time.

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Conceivingblee in reply to PenpalLdn

Yeah I get the anxiety so well. We fo what we have to yo try abd remain in control don't we.It's such a mind melt the sympton thing I'm like I'm taking all these drugs I should feel this way etc I felt like this last time why don't I feel this this time. Crazyyyy.

I'm calm said noone ever doing IVF....

Pray for us both. Xx

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Newbeginnings24

hi I’m really glad you posted this as I’m feeling the same. After 3 hard rounds of IVF (never enough to freeze) we got a BFP last week. We threw everything and the kitchen sink at this round and I was still so surprised. Every pregnancy test I’ve taken in my life has been stark white.

My first scan is booked at 8 weeks (so almost at 6wks now) and until then feels like an eternity. My clinic doesn’t do blood tests and we haven’t told anyone as it’s so early. I don’t really have any symptoms either so I sometimes feel like it’s not even real and have a lot of anxiety about what may or may not be there at that first scan.

Trying to take each day as it comes and keep on with the progesterone but it’s so hard. The waiting and worrying really feels like the hardest part! I hope all is well with you and hanging in there! x

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PenpalLdn in reply to Newbeginnings24

Yes we are in the same boat, the uncertainty and not having control over anything is hard. I'm trying to remember that it's more likely to be a success than not. Some days are just so much harder, I have to give myself grace. Hoping and praying for a good outcome.

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Laurapax

Hi ladies, I’m the same here, I’m hopefully nearly 5 weeks and minimal to zero symptoms. I’m an anxious mess as I’ve had two miscarriages (from natural conception) then a failed IVF cycle with a PTGA tested embryo a few months ago and now I find myself pregnant naturally again after over 18 months since my last miscarriage 🤯 and right before I was due to go to Glastonbury. You couldn’t make this up. My first HCG was lower (75) so last weekend I spent it all trying to hold it together at a wedding thinking I’m going for a third miscarriage and then Monday HCG has doubled and Wednesday doubled again so I’m back in the game. It feels like Russian roulette with a none tested embryo and I am bracing myself now for viability scan a week Monday. I’ve only ever had bad news so this process is so tough for me. We are trying for our first it’s been 24 months with a lot of tears and heartache. I’m 38 now and I just pray this is our time! Sending love to all xxx

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PenpalLdn in reply to Laurapax

I really identify with your message. I had 3 MCs from natural conception, found out after my 3rd that I probably have diminished ovarian reserve. I was supposed to start IVF with PGT in July and got pregnant this month. Each time I had high hopes and now I don't know what to feel. I got seriously bad mental health with 3 MCs, and now after 10 months since my last I'm more positive and hopeful but that's just because of time. A lot of it is egg quality so I'm hoping and praying a good one snuck in. I don't know what will happen if this doesn't work out as IVF is a numbers game and I don't have the number of eggs. I think we have a scan same day 🙏🏻🤞🏻

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Laurapax

I feel the same PenpalLdn hang in there! I also have low AMH and my age against me - I’ve done three back to back egg collections last year which was torture as my numbers per collection were low (3 and 4’s) I honestly had no hope and felt so desperately depressed. It was an awful time especially as I was mourning my two miscarriages which happened within 5 months of each other. I then become unwell after my second missed miscarriage and thought I was having heart issues but it turned out the pregnancy hormones had triggered a chemical inbalance and I ended up with gallstones which were diagnosed fairly quickly but still took a month or so. I had three attacks in the space of three weeks which was agony and didn’t know why. Once my dr realised it was gallstones I then had to have an operation to remove my gallbladder even though I’m super fit and healthy. Honestly 2023 was the worst year of my life.

We went down ivf PGTA route after my gallstone op as I was so concerned about age and the miscarriages but the first transfer earlier this year didn’t take despite doing everything. EMMA / ALICE, NK Cells the works. And now here we are pregnant again crapping myself for my scan which has only delivered awful news. At least I won’t have gallstones to contend with I suppose.

My clinic have put me on progesterone and aspirin and I also had an intrapilid infusion today as I have elevated NK cells but obviously none of this is going to help if the quality of my egg is rubbish.

Did you have any testing done? Do you know what your AMH levels are? I went for ivf as I wanted a bit of a safety net which has taken a bit of pressure off as I have a few embryos on ice but it is / was a very mentally challenging and extremely expensive way of trying to take some control over something which is so out of our control.

Sending hugs 🤗 praying this is both of our times for good news xxx

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PenpalLdn in reply to Laurapax

My AMH is 1.75 pmol/l. I believe DOR is <1. This was taken a year ago, so who knows what it is now, I don't even want to know. Most IVF clinics told me I don't need IVF, to try naturally, and the only edge would be pgt testing but even then like you said, there are no guarantees. I did all tests known (except nk cells which I was supposed to do in August in Coventry), and I have a blood clotting condition. Also incidentally my ANA came very high which has some correlation with immune stuff but I never went that way. I wanted to do the immune tests on the endometrium, but hopefully I'll never have to do it. Something I remembered if you're taking any drugs for immunity, it may mask symptoms, so you may have less symptoms because of it.

It's so good you have some embryos on ice, it does take off some pressure and also if you want more kids. But I totally get the anxiety, it will always be with us until we have our babies.

If you don't mind me asking, when were your MCs? Mine I never saw heartbeats, so that's my hope for my scan, to see a heartbeat. Because then it might be different to the other 3. It's just so hard to even think about my MCs, they also triggered a lot of health issues, I think my immunity was the lowest in 2023. Indeed it was the worst year.

Fingers crossed for us both!

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